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  1. #251
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    No, I'm following the American due process method of innocent until proven guilty.
    the nba is not a court of law

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    So based on an assumption you have no evidence to support, Gilbert should be punished?
    he should be punished based on the fact he had guns in a lockerroom.

    not sure what part about that you're not getting.

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    I'm sure that fat white sportswriters will point to this as proof that the NBA is overrun by thugs, but I think it's hilarious that a couple of soft millionaire athletes like to play at being gangsta.
    Who?
    Maybe the skinny black writers should speak LOUDER than they already do so as to get noticed over the fat white writers(say that 3 times fast).

    This is an ignorant take. Come on Fin....
    Last edited by mojorizen7; 01-06-2010 at 11:17 PM.

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    Who?
    Maybe the skinny black writers should speak LOUDER than they already do so as to get noticed over the fat white writers(say that 3 times fast).

    This is an ignorant take. Come on Fin....
    It's a story that writes itself: "NBA has a thug problem on its hands," when in reality these are a couple of pampered millionaire athletes playing at being "hard."

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    It's a story that writes itself: "NBA has a thug problem on its hands," when in reality these are a couple of pampered millionaire athletes playing at being "hard."
    I'm not sure how you know this. Just because they say it was a joke, it doesn't seem so. And Stern doesn't seem at all pleased about what it does for the NBA's image either, judging from his actions.

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    Gilbert is a great player but he did this to himself. If he would have kept a low profile and just played ball he will still be on the court. I know he is eccentric and all but you would think his inner circle (father at least) would have told him to knock it off. And calling Stern "mean" did not help. Still I highly doubt that Stern and the Wizards will be able to void his contract. If Artest and coach choker Sprewell kept thier contracts I don't see them voiding Arenes's deal. However the next CBA talks will be interesting.

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    I'm not sure how you know this. Just because they say it was a joke, it doesn't seem so. And Stern doesn't seem at all pleased about what it does for the NBA's image either, judging from his actions.
    Arenas didn't get suspended for bringing guns to the Verizon Center. He got suspended for twittering about it:

    "The possession of firearms by an NBA player in an NBA arena is a matter of the utmost concern to us. I initially thought it prudent to refrain from taking immediate action because of the pendency of a criminal investigation involving the office of the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia and the Metropolitan Police Department, and the consideration of this matter by a grand jury sitting in the District of Columbia. For the same reason, I directed the Wizards to refrain from taking any action.

    "Although it is clear that the actions of Mr. Arenas will ultimately result in a substantial suspension, and perhaps worse, his ongoing conduct has led me to conclude that he is not currently fit to take the court in an NBA game. Accordingly, I am suspending Mr. Arenas indefinitely, without pay, effective immediately pending the completion of the investigation by the NBA."
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    but why am I supposed to condemn Arenas and support Stern's decision? Can anybody provide a coherent answer to the last question?
    You managed to boil this down to this being about you and what you think? I don't feel Stern gives a f*ck about what "Findog" thinks. Give it a rest already.

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    You managed to boil this down to this being about you and what you think?
    How has this incident lessened your enjoyment of the NBA? Do you feel personally offended or outraged by Gilbert Arenas' behavior? Will you sleep easier at night knowing that David Stern will not tolerate players twittering about a serious matter?

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    That said, I disagree with the suspension. Arenas was starting to play better, I had lots of fun last night watching him. The guy is healthy and in form so rarely and now one won't be able to see him playing even when he's in one of those moments? Fine the man, let him play.

    And, let's be honest here: Stern didn't suspend him for the weapons episode, he suspended him for his antics last night (which I found funny, but I'm a fan of humor noir) and his unwillingness to shut up.
    You managed to boil this down to this being about you and what you think? I don't feel Stern gives a f*ck about what "Findog" thinks. Give it a rest already.


    Stern had no choice. Arenas's antics on twitter and pre-game routines did not help his cause.

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    They have computers in San Antonio?

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    They have computers in San Antonio?
    Yeah, they finally got dialup. All you have to do is unplug the rotary phone and then plug in the komputor cable.

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    Arenas didn't get suspended for bringing guns to the Verizon Center. He got suspended for twittering about it:
    You honestly think he was suspended indefinitely only for twittering about the incident? That the incident itself has nothing to do with the suspension?

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    They have computers in San Antonio?

    that's funny

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    How has this incident lessened your enjoyment of the NBA? Do you feel personally offended or outraged by Gilbert Arenas' behavior? Will you sleep easier at night knowing that David Stern will not tolerate players twittering about a serious matter?
    Your one dumb . Serious.

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    You honestly think he was suspended indefinitely only for twittering about the incident? That the incident itself has nothing to do with the suspension?
    Yeah, I do:

    "The possession of firearms by an NBA player in an NBA arena is a matter of the utmost concern to us. I initially thought it prudent to refrain from taking immediate action because of the pendency of a criminal investigation involving the office of the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia and the Metropolitan Police Department, and the consideration of this matter by a grand jury sitting in the District of Columbia. For the same reason, I directed the Wizards to refrain from taking any action.

    "Although it is clear that the actions of Mr. Arenas will ultimately result in a substantial suspension, and perhaps worse, his ongoing conduct has led me to conclude that he is not currently fit to take the court in an NBA game. Accordingly, I am suspending Mr. Arenas indefinitely, without pay, effective immediately pending the completion of the investigation by the NBA."

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    Findog, your probably one of those white kids pretending your ghetto, sagging your clothes and cap backwards. You probably still live at home with mom and pops, sharing a room with your kid brother. Shut the up already!

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    Your one dumb . Serious.
    How have you been harmed by Gilbert Arenas' actions? Is in the NBA in mortal danger of losing corporate sponsorships because of outrage over Arenas' conduct?

    I'm not a lemming that responds exactly the way consumers of mass media are expected to do so, like you do. I don't care about what Arenas did or that he joked about it, and I'm perfectly fine with the legal process running its course before any decision is made on his future with the Wizards. I just find it extremely hilarious the reactions in this thread of "Good! Stern HAD to do what he did! Arenas deserved it!" Like sponsors were beating down Stern's door and people on this board were personally harmed by Gil's actions.

    You are a lemming. Serious.

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    I can bold stuff too:

    "The possession of firearms by an NBA player in an NBA arena is a matter of the utmost concern to us. I initially thought it prudent to refrain from taking immediate action because of the pendency of a criminal investigation involving the office of the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia and the Metropolitan Police Department, and the consideration of this matter by a grand jury sitting in the District of Columbia. For the same reason, I directed the Wizards to refrain from taking any action.

    "Although it is clear that the actions of Mr. Arenas will ultimately result in a substantial suspension, and perhaps worse, his ongoing conduct has led me to conclude that he is not currently fit to take the court in an NBA game. Accordingly, I am suspending Mr. Arenas indefinitely, without pay, effective immediately pending the completion of the investigation by the NBA."







    While I understand your point, it's silly to really assert that he is being suspended ONLY for twittering about the matter in an inappropriate way.

    And, "initially thought it prudent" seems to denote Stern considered his initial actions wrong, don't you think?

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    Findog, your probably one of those white kids pretending your ghetto, sagging your clothes and cap backwards.
    Tell me more, Kreskin. You have an amazing ability to detect obvious truths about people you converse with over the internet.

    You probably still live at home with mom and pops, sharing a room with your kid brother. Shut the up already!
    No, I'm going to continue to post. If that bothers you, I suggest you PM Kori or timvp and pe ion them to take away my posting privileges. You can also put me on ignore. Whining like a to exhort me to "shut the up already" is pathetic.

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    While I understand your point, it's silly to really assert that he is being suspended ONLY for twittering about the matter in an inappropriate way.

    And, "initially thought it prudent" seems to denote Stern considered his initial actions wrong, don't you think?
    He thinks Arenas is mocking and challenging him by the fake gun celebration in Philly and the constant twittering. If it were only about the alleged offense, Delonte West would be suspended too.

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    He thinks Arenas is mocking and challenging him by the fake gun celebration in Philly and the constant twittering. If it were only about the alleged offense, Delonte West would be suspended too.
    Delonte West didn't bring guns into an arena, or threaten his teammate(s) with them. He didn't have another teammate threatening him with firearms. And gambling had nothing to do with it.

    We know NBA players gamble. We know NBA players have firearms (what millionaire doesn't?) and yet, are at the forefront of a variety of cultural avenues.

    This incident proposes a bigger problem than you admit.

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    Delonte West didn't bring guns into an arena, or threaten his teammate(s) with them. He didn't have another teammate threatening him with firearms. And gambling had nothing to do with it.

    We know NBA players gamble. We know NBA players have firearms (what millionaire doesn't?) and yet, are at the forefront of a variety of cultural avenues. It proposes a bigger problem than you admit.
    I'm not dismissing that it's a big problem, and I think Gil is an asshat, but I don't think Stern was backed into a corner when it came to suspending him.

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    How has this incident lessened your enjoyment of the NBA? Do you feel personally offended or outraged by Gilbert Arenas' behavior? Will you sleep easier at night knowing that David Stern will not tolerate players twittering about a serious matter?
    Antawn Jamison will sleep easier knowing Stern won't tolerate guns in the locker room.

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    Antawn Jamison will sleep easier knowing Stern won't tolerate guns in the locker room.
    Yeah, he looks terrified and finds no humor in the situation at all:


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