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Great post. Good to see some regulating under way. Hopefully people come to understand common respect. Also a limit on threads. +1
As the Spurs journey through their 13th consecutive season as an elite team in the NBA, it's undeniable that SpursTalk.com has failed to remain elite in the beginning of the 2009-2010 NBA season. For a myriad of reasons, the quality-to-noise ratio has been at an unacceptably low level. I take partial responsibility, as life issues indefinitely suspended my participation on the forums. But now I hope to help nudge SpursTalk.com into the correct direction so that it can regain its rightful position.
In addition to raising my posting level, I'll also make it a point to author three features for each game: Keys to Victory, Initial Reaction and Game Thoughts. Kori Ellis has a yet to be revealed feature that will definitely raise the bar.
How can you help? Kori Ellis and I have a long list of feature ideas that can add to the quality of SpursTalk.com ... if we can only locate the necessary help. If you are willing to help, we will be grateful. No matter if you only have time for a one and done feature that involves minimal basketball knowledge or you want to tackle a larger project, we can work together to figure it out. If you are interested, please send me a PM. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
In addition to features, overall posting quality will be held up to a slightly higher standard. The freedom SpursTalk.com offers won't be altered, however we do ask that you take more time when it comes to starting threads and expressing your vulgar thoughts and emotions. A poster who gets multiple threads merged due not giving common courtesy to the very simple rules when it comes to starting threads will now automatically lose their ability to start threads for period of a month. Extreme and unnecessary vulgarity will also come under scrutiny. We can live with 99% of the vulgarity but the over the line potshots will result in a warning to help serve as a reminder that the bar has indeed been raised.
Even if you believe that nothing above applies to you, I simply ask that you make a small effort to improve your contribution level. If we all take a little step, the result will be a large improvement.
In the long history of SpursTalk.com, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending greatness in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility -- I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other fans or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this team will light our forum and all who read it -- and the glow from that fire can truly light the path to back to greatness.
And so, my fellow SpursTalk.com brethren: Ask not what your forum can do for you -- ask what you can do for your forum.
Great post. Good to see some regulating under way. Hopefully people come to understand common respect. Also a limit on threads. +1
Always willing to help.
Thats cool, and not a problem at all. I love this site.
Wow, no problem. I am willing to p, if given the chance. I love this forum.
I'm glad i didn't give up on ST... I knew you guys would come back and now it seems that stronger than ever... I learned more about basketball on here reading from people that knows a lot about it than playing it myself on the courts...
Spurs values and promote class on top of other things and I'm glad ST is up to those standards...
Thread opening limitation has been desired by many people trying to have good use of their time while on here for some time now.
Thanks Kori and timvp for running the best site on the Internet and doing so free.
If there is anyway you think I can contribute apart from refraining from posting stuff that doesn't bring anything to the table let me know.
Anyone who can't express opinions about basketball without vulgarities and excessive profanity is a ing moron.
(See how a written word is more noticeable than the same word would be in conversation--and it doesn't really make the point as well as if it was left out IMHO.
My personal conversation mode is probably as profane and vulgar as anyone's, but I know that putting it in writing on the net is LIKE USING ALL CAPS TO MAKE A POINT BECAUSE IT COMES ACROSS AS SCREAMING)
The anonymity on the internet provided by usernames lets the child in all of us come out and some of the smack talk here against other posters wouldn't be used face to face because you'd run the risk of getting your butt kicked.
I realize that posters here cherish the place as perhaps the only participatory forum in the world that accepts extreme bad language, but that's simply ridiculous.
If the owners decided to limit bad language, I don't think anyone would leave. Where would they go? On the other hand, how many people are offended by some of the extreme stuff and quietly depart without fanfare, leaving only the morons behind?
hey, anything i can do to help
Great post and a breath of fresh air for the regulars. This forum has been headed the wrong direction over the past few months and it's good to see that you and Kori are getting things sorted out in your personal life to the point where you two can be around more. You two are great leaders and have been successful in making this place the best basketball site on the internet.
If needed for anything, I am available. I am willing to do whatever you two need to continue to make this place great.
Since there is an effort by the forum founders to address the issue of vulgarity, may I request them (and moderators) to be more scrutinizing of some of the posters' signatures/avatars here in the forum? Scantily clad ladies (and in some cases, barely ladies or young girls) are suitable for a porn-forum, not a basketball discussion forum, isn't that so? I use the profile based settings to remove these signatures from view, but I also view the forum from an office server firewall, where history, cache and cookies are frequently cleared. It should not be made in bent on readers to have mandatory logins to not see vulgarity so clearly imposed on their eyes by some juvenile posters.
I also agree that there is a thin line between moderation and censorship; but etiquette is a good word and deed. Timvp, Kori - could you please lean on those posters to not have such vulgar signatures?
People are easier to keep in line when you cater to their negative impulses.
How far would you go to cater to a negative impulse? Aren't there limits?
Of course but I'm not going to get into a debate about what is over the line and what isn't. Not sure that was timvp's intention of starting this thread. But there are preferences placed in the control panel for a reason. If you are worried about your company's rules of behavior as far as the internet is concerned, I know you're smart enough not to access this at work. The strength of this forum relies heavily on uncensored opinions.
And it is the "juvenile posters" that provide the vulgarity in their signatures.
I'd like help this great forum, but my english isn't good enough
I have removed some signatures that I thought were over the line. However, there is going to be no rule changes eliminating "scantily clad women" and the such from sigs. You can turn off all the forum images...avatars, signatures, whatever, if you are posting from work. I would certainly suggest it if you are monitored in anyway. I might be able to set the forum so that Guests (when you aren't logged in) don't see signatures.
Anyway, this thread wasn't meant to turn into a fest. We are fully aware that we haven't done much with the forum in the last five months or so. So, we know what needs correcting.
-K
Nice post! Glad to see something is going to be done on the vulgarity and massive cursing and bull which is going around. There is no need for that. Of course it's nice you can say almost everything you want, but its taken too far in my eyes with unnecessary hate and slurs and stuff.
ps. Would you consider giving us, international fans, a special International basketball sub-forum? Without facing the hate of American basketball fans towards European or int. ball? We had about this before some months ago with Kori, but now you are asking for ideas and help.
I think there should be some control over racial issues. We really don't need the racist crap in a forum where posters from many nationalities post. Even if it were meant as a joke, people would still feel insulted.
We have that already though mookie and some trolls show up from time to time
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=33
[QUOTE=Spursfanfromafar;3973241]Since there is an effort by the forum founders to address the issue of vulgarity, may I request them (and moderators) to be more scrutinizing of some of the posters' signatures/avatars here in the forum? /QUOTE]
I do not have these signatures that you describe. I also do not support censorship unless it is nudity or under age. There are enough people in this world trying to tell other people what is right from wrong through censorship. What you deem vulgar others see as artistic. As pointed out there are tools to censure from your own eyes what you do not want to see. If it is a problem at work then perhaps you shouldn't use work assets for this forum.
Also, be careful with edits. No argument will ever be won in any discussion when only one side is allowed to talk. This is even if the other side seems to be a complete moron. They will not learn unless they are allowed to be proved wrong. This is with any debate and not just this forum.
Racist comments come generally from Laker fans and Xenophobic ones from Mavs fans... that mostly happens on the NBA forum I haven't seen any of that on the Spurs one...
We are fixing the whole forum anyway. Just a general comment. I really feel that we shouldn't be seeing this stuff not on any forum. Anytime this happens in any other forum, it would most probably result in a warning, temporary ban or permanent ban if repeated too many times. It stretches out to many political issues if race and religion is involved in any argument just because a jerk feels like ting on your race.Racist comment come generally from Laker fans and Xenophobic ones from Mavs fans... that mostly happens on the NBA forum I haven't seen any of that on the Spurs one...
You do get banned for racists comments here too.
KBP got banned after his 328th racist comments.
He didn't really get banned. I think he is just not allowed to post or something. I still see him viewing the forum sometimes, proving that he is still able to log in.
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