Some random thoughts about Obama...

[panic giraffe]

I dont care if China is the focus or not. Bottom line is that he hasnt put any pressure on China on several important issues.

So basically, thanks for nothing.

The Dali lama stuff was just icing on the cake.

Both of his predecessors had the guts to give China the middle finger when it came to their human rights atrocities. But not Obama, everyone's buddy (except Tibet).

maybe because after gitmo, warrantless wiretapping, secret cia prisons overseas, abu ghraib etc... he felt that going after other country's human rights records would only lead to charges of being a hypocrite. so you probably won"t see too many attacks on the human rights records of other country's til he can clean the image the US has made for itself overseas first.

[da_suns_fan]

Another observation:

Robert Gibbs is kind of a pompous asshole.

[clambake]

Another observation:

Robert Gibbs is kind of a pompous asshole.

what do you think his job is?

[Winehole23]

so you probably won"t see too many attacks on the human rights records of other country's til he can clean the image the US has made for itself overseas first.

He's not doing a very good job so far.

[baseline bum]

41 and Slick Willy were down the middle. I don't think any of these men are trying to destroy the middle class. I think they all had different ideas of what will help them. WHat would be a solution though? One idea I would like to see is taking the Senate back to being state appointed.

Clinton is hugely responsible for eroding the middle class with his work in getting China most favored nation trade status. Clinton was only in the middle because the middle swung to the direction of state subsidized free enterprise. He lied like to us about how we were going to have a huge market for export, which was obvious bull , since China's people are dirt-poor (even without China buying our dollars and keeping their currency low). Daddy Bush is also a partner in crime, with the way he made NAFTA such a huge priority in his destructive term. I specifically remember Ross Perot destroying both Clinton and Bush in the debates on NAFTA and telling us exactly what would (and did) happen under it, but people laughed him off because he had big ears and the media pushed the mantra of 3rd-party votes being wasted.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Clinton is hugely responsible for eroding the middle class with his work in getting China most favored nation trade status. Clinton was only in the middle because the middle swung to the direction of state subsidized free enterprise. He lied like to us about how we were going to have a huge market for export, which was obvious bull , since China's people are dirt-poor (even without China buying our dollars and keeping their currency low). Daddy Bush is also a partner in crime, with the way he made NAFTA such a huge priority in his destructive term. I specifically remember Ross Perot destroying both Clinton and Bush in the debates on NAFTA and telling us exactly what would (and did) happen under it, but people laughed him off because he had big ears and the media pushed the mantra of 3rd-party votes being wasted.

He does have big ears though..

[ChumpDumper]

Does anyone want to seriously state that Obama hasnt been wobbly or soft on China from everything from human rights to global currency to climate change?

Who was the last president to be "hard" on China on any issue?

Eisenhower?