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Gilbert will be better than both. He's no Matt Barkley though.
this is why UT fans love VY so much more.
Gilbert will be better than both. He's no Matt Barkley though.
Why? B/c he didnt get injured? Colt will be a better QB in the NFL than VY's unstable ass...mark my words! I love that cliche!
Matt Barkley=the new Tim Tebow w/o the Heisman and national championships
I still dont know how they beat the Buckeyes!!!
X rays were negative. The guy could have played, but he chose to out on his team. What kind of limp ed pussy lets down 50 plus people so as not to jeopardize his NFL career on a possibly sprained shoulder or a pinched nerve.
Last edited by Death In June; 01-08-2010 at 03:28 AM.
You don't know whether he could have played or not. McCoy is class and heart. He said he had no pain in his shoulder, but he couldn't feel his arm. How the are you going to throw a ball if you can't feel your arm? He wanted to play, but his coaches and his dad agreed that he shouldn't.
But Dumbass comments like yours are typical for message boards like this.
Hook em!
Gilbert >>>>>>>>> Barkley
and really, i dont have too much of a problem with mccoy. he had to do what was best for him, although i think his family and the coaching staff really didnt want him to risk playing, but if they let him make the decision, he would have gave it a go.
this right here shows what a ing moron you are
No pain = play. You have to at least take the field for a series and see what you can do. You have to make the effort. A real man with real heart makes the effort. If anything to at least show your teammates that you weren't willing to give up.
All they did was hand off for the next quarter and half anyway. He could have at least attempted to not look like a quitter.
I'm a McCoy fan. I'm a Texas fan but I was disgusted with what happened.
A broken bone or torn muscle would have been the only things that could have kept me from at least trying to take the field.
"to protect his pro career"
I can't believe I even heard this. To forgo a chance at greatness for what? Money? If anything this cost him draft position not protects it.
As I put in the other thread...
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...yhoo&type=lgnsPASADENA, Calif. – Colt McCoy lined up about 7 yards from his dad, Brad. This was inside the Texas locker room underneath the Rose Bowl bleachers, the Longhorns quarterback missing the biggest game of his career, about to attempt the most important throw of his life.
Colt had the ball and was going to pass it to his dad as a slew of doctors and trainers watched closely. How many times had these two thrown a football back and forth, from their yard in little Tuscola, Texas, to the practice fields of Jim Ned High School, where the dad was the coach and the son was the star?
“Millions,” Colt said. “Millions of times.”
Colt had just lied to the Texas doctors and said that he was capable of returning to the BCS le game against Alabama. A hit by the Tide’s Marcell Dareus, on the fifth play of the game, had sent him to this locker room. He wanted back out there. So he tried to sound convincing despite the fact his arm felt “like a noodle.”
He hadn’t come this far to sit. Colt McCoy was going to lead Texas to the championship. He believed this. He’d always believed this. When he went down, he said, “We were about to dominate.” They weren’t going to lose, not where the Longhorns had last won a championship in 2005, not against a team against whom they’d never lost, certainly not 37-21, as the scoreboard would show after 60 minutes.
Yet on the TV in the corner, he had seen it all fade away in his absence. Alabama was rolling; Texas’ early lead was long gone.
So Colt gripped the ball, stared at his dad and thought, “It’s just a simple throw.” He threw. The ball went soft and wide. Everyone grimaced. “Give it to me again,” Colt demanded. Brad got the ball and gave it back to his son. The next throw was the same, bouncing harmlessly away. “Give it to me again,” Colt said, again. Brad did.
It was the same. It was over. Colt couldn’t throw it 7 yards to his own father. “My arm was dead,” he said. The dad hugged his son. The son broke down and cried.
“There’s no pain on my body,” Colt said later. “If I was a free safety, I’d go out there and make a tackle. I [just] have no strength to throw a football.”
seriously, i hope he is banned in austin today. it made me sick to see him on the sidelines, without so much as a ing cast on to at least give the appearance that he couldn't play. then when he went all jesus at the end of the game made me regret even watching, it was like he was the sarah palin quitter of college football. west texas jesus freak s make me sick. don't get me wrong, i understand, i've lived in west texas for a year, would have to drive through tuscola to get to where i'm going, and jim ned county didn't look like it would be too appealing unless you're either a meth cook or crack ho, so i understand his dad's need to get his son on a NFL contract and get the family the out of dodge and cash in, i would probably would force my son to do the same. why risk the paycheck? got ya. but as a texas ex i was sick just watching palin qb just sit there. if the kid had any loyalty (not to money) or any heart he would have just jumped in after INT number 2 was thrown.
so true. any coach that saw that would only have to wonder, where would his heart lie in crunch time?
i hope he goes to the lions as some back up. then he would be a rich country bumpkin jesus freak in the middle of 30% unemployment. bet driving around town would make him get some courage REAL fast.
You really believe Colt didn't want to go in? YOu're kidding right?
If you're not, you're taking a very shallow view of who McCoy is as a person.
Maybe its because I have sons that play the game and I know what it's like to see them get hurt and yet want to play so bad it pains them on the inside.
Oh well, to each his own. I believe McCoy is more man than many of the pin heads who post here.
I haven't entered this forum in a long, long time. Guess I should have stayed away. It only pisses me off.
Good post.
Even though I have no tolerance for the UT program, I am impressed with Colt. I don't have sons but I do have several close nephews who play the game and if they can't play it's because "they cant play".
The shmuck in here who previously posted something pertaining to Colt beliefs in the almighty ought to take a lesson from Colt. Seeing Colt last night with tears in his eyes even pained me to see and I don't get emmotional to easy. It was genuine and heartfelt. Here's to Colt having a future in the game. I like the kid.
''wasn't put in the game to protect his NFL career''
You're on McCoys , so I don't expect you to be objective. Do you know what a pinched nerve is? You can play football with a pinched nerve - it doesn't effect range of motion. Whatever was said on TV, that Colt "wanted" to go in, sounded like bull . He didn't make an effort, he wasn't pleading on the sidelines, and he wasn't medically at risk. You don't know the guy, so I don't know why you're speaking to his character, but the perception is that he quit on his team.
Last edited by Death In June; 01-08-2010 at 02:54 PM.
And you've broken bread with him? Come on man. It's doubtful you, much less anyone in this forum has thrown at pigskin on a stage like Colt has and even more doubtful you've experienced a pinch nerve. The boy stated he couldn't feel his arm. What good is an arm if you can't feel it? Your right. From here on end it will forever be speculation but after following Colt the last 3.5 years it's clear it's not in his DNA just to quit.
You nor I will NEVER know what really happened. Thank the kid for at least taking a medicore team to the BCS. They were exposed. Take the medicine and live long and prosper.
Texas wasn't mediocre this year. To this wino, this was another in a long line of near great Texas teams. It might even be the best ever near great Longhorns football team. Gideon Blake and UT's ball-hawking kickoff coverage unit kept them in the game early, UT's defense held Alabama to zero yards in the third quarter when Ingram was held out, and UT's receivers started catching Garrett Gilbert's passes in the second half. There were about five clear drops by UT receivers, one of them a sure touchdown. Mr. Gilbert's more experienced teammates didn't bail him out by catching perfectly thrown balls. That's too bad. The dropped touchdown would've been four more points.
UT, true to the best of their near great abilities, came up a little short in the end. Two TD, four INT actually isn't a bad statline for a true freshman assuming starting duties for his team in the national championship game. I can't even think of one other player who can say that.
Hat's off to Mr. Gilbert and a UT football team that was nearly one for the ages. I feel like a jackass for demanding that John Chiles replace Gilbert at halftime. He done em proud.
This wino has no reason to disbelieve that, as presented, McCoy's parents and the UT coaching staff made the decision for him. I can see that McCoy would submit to that decision without showing visible anger and bitterness. Maybe people are hating on Colt McCoy for not throwing a tantrum in public about it. This wino, for one, does not understand the flames.
FWIW, I bought McCoy's explanation that the hit impaired sensation in his throwing arm. He pinched a nerve, right? He said he couldn't feel his arm.
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Last edited by Winehole23; 01-08-2010 at 04:55 PM. Reason: best near great UT football team ever
I all asked was that he take no for an answer and at least attempt a series or two. He was ing clapping for christ sake he could have rallied the troops and handed off a few times before relegating himself to the bench. At least he could have looked back and said " it I entered the game. I tried".
Instead of.
"I'm not in pain and daddy wants to protect my pro career".
him and his baby jesus of a vagina. No heart. No balls.
He didn't even bother giving the adrenaline of the game a chance.
You say that and have NO chance of being a millionaire. He does.
He did what the coaches told him to do. That's in character for Colt McCoy. You may wish him otherwise, but that's him.
We're not talking about a career ending injury. He wasn't going out there with a torn ACL (although some QB's have) he wasn't going out there with a separated shoulder (although some players have) he wasn't going out there with a broken bone (although some players have).You say that and have NO chance of being a millionaire. He does.
He doesn't have the balls to push for greatness. I'm willing to bet he cost himself millions rather than saved them.
McCoy wouldn't have come out in the first place if he didn't believe it was effing serious. It looked serious enough in the aftermath, and the hit itself was nasty.
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