Well after the play, so the ball would have been AZ's anyways.
Looks like Rodgers turned his head (to follow the ball) into Adams' hand.
He had a great game and he was the only reason Green Bay was in the game..he still choked though..
Well after the play, so the ball would have been AZ's anyways.
Looks like Rodgers turned his head (to follow the ball) into Adams' hand.
How do you determine that Rodgers overthrew Jennings on that 60-yard attempt? How do you know he didn't place the ball in the exact right spot, but Jennings ran the wrong route? That ball was in a perfect spot to be caught away from defenders and run for a TD.
As for the fumble, it wasn't from jitters, it was a complete fluke. He was making his reads, went to make a pass, tucked the ball in after Dansby got in his passing lane, only to have a tackler going high accidentally knock the ball out of his hand from his blindside.
Adams didn't intend to cause a fumble, and Rodgers made the right call not to force a pass over the best all-around defensive player of the Cardinals. It was a complete fluke, not a choke.
But there's no telling someone who's mistakenly formed an opinion, gets called out on it, and then digs their heals in.
Still well after the fumble. Changes the game, but likely not the outcome.
Yes, if it had hit the ground.
EDIT: Or does it matter?
Interesting Q.
After fumble. The same hand that caused the fumble was the hand in question. Ball knocked out before any facemask. Let it go...
gotta give Aaron & the packers props for having heart & not folding when they were down big..Maybe the pats should take some lessons hahahaa..Btw, the refs missed a few blatant calls.
Sure it matters, if you're calling it a "tuck rule" then the outcome is an incomplete pass. As you pointed out, never incomplete as it never hit the ground. Forward pass gives way to tucked "fumble" gives way to interception return for game-winning touchdown.
If the tuck rule is to bandied about, then the conclusion must be one of two things:
1. incomplete pass upon hitting ground
2. live ball upon being caught without hitting ground
How the could the tuck rule apply, the ball never hit the in ground. Even if Rodger's hand was moving forward it would have just been an interception.
HAHAHA Rodgers will never be as good as Favre!
Favre >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rodgers
4-EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also roughing the passer can't be called on a fumble so throw that out too. Cardinals won fair.
Couldn't remember what the wording of the rule was and I know it can be difficult to track down official NFL rules.
You won't be so in love with Brett when he hems and haws s your team over this summer...for the FIRST time. The Packers had just grown tired of his act, he was getting on in years, and it was time to make the change. Rodgers just needs a bit better O-Line in front of him. He did just fine playing behind a sieve.
I'm surprised HarlemHeat hasn't mentioned the blatant pass interference when they tackled Rodgers as he was trying to catch a ball he threw to himself.
I don't have any bad feelings towards Arizona, I don't know why you're mad because I was upset about the officiating..I complain about the officiating no matter which team is in it..I thought there were some very questionable calls..Arizona still earned their win, I hope they do well as the playoffs continue, I don't have anything against them, anything bad I said about them is just from a heated reaction..
I'm not mad at all, I find it hilarious that whenever the team you're cheering for loses there was bad officiating involved.
Are you saying that the calls I mentioned weren't bad calls?..
I do admit that I complain a lot about calls, like most fans, but they're mostly involving Laker games..
They were questionable calls. None of which had a blatantly obvious effect on the outcome of the game.
I've been wondering if your got ass was in the dookie crew. Thanks for clarifying.
Fitz running over Woodson wasn't questionable, it was OPI.
Just hate to see them call the illegal contact for simply touching a WR beyond 5 yards and then allowing a WR to do like that.
No effect on the outcome, just a horrendous non-call.
Neither were those two bull horse collar tackling penalties they called to keep Green Bay in the game.
I've never seen the actual rule for the horse collar. Have no idea why you couldn't call it inside the pocket, but apparently that's part of the rule.
From Peter King's twitter, re: the final play
# Facemask 1: Why there was no facemask called on the final play, when Adams had his hand on Rodgers' mask and drove him to the ground:
# Facemask 2: The referee, Scott Green, stands behind the pocket and has to watch first for the loose ball. Once the ball is out, Green's ...
# Facemask 3: job is to watch ball for possession. He can't watch the QB then. If he saw the facemask, it'd mean he wasn't watching ball.
# Facemask 4: It's a quirky rule, but it's the referee's call--and the ref is charged with possession once the ball is loose.
Or basically...
Why there was no facemask called on the final play, when Adams had his hand on Rodgers' mask and drove him to the ground: The referee, Scott Green, stands behind the pocket and has to watch first for the loose ball. Once the ball is out, Green's job is to watch ball for possession. He can't watch the QB then. If he saw the facemask, it'd mean he wasn't watching ball. It's a quirky rule, but it's the referee's call--and the ref is charged with possession once the ball is loose.
Get over it...
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