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    i refuse to support wal mart. they ruin america
    You just resold the gift card that is going to be used at a walmart. All you did was shift the burden onto someone else. Walmart is still going to get the business.

    Economic fail. If anything, you undercutting the retail price of the gift card gave someone else who had no plans of shopping at walmart that incentive to do so. Perhaps they enjoyed the deal so much that they plan on going to walmart even more.

    If you hated walmart you would of burned the card. You ran with the cash -- the exact same thing that you are criticizing walmart of doing.

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    i refuse to support wal mart. they ruin america
    I hate to break it to you but whoever gave you the gift card already supported Walmart. You're not giving Walmart a penny to use that gift card. It seems pointless then to take $47 back on a $50 gift card when it's not your money.

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    If you hated walmart you would of burned the card. You ran with the cash -- the exact same thing that you are criticizing walmart of doing.
    Economic fail of your own. Burning the card does a double dip in favor of Wal-Mart. They have the cash already and NEVER have to put out any merchandise.

    Realistically, if someone is trolling a card site for WM cards, they were going there anyway, so the net out is zero for Thunder Dan.
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    some how I get the idea you could care less about the site or telling us about it. It's more of an excuse to get preachy about why people should hate walmart.
    no I just passed along a useful website that I had a good experience with. Someone asked me why I wouldn't use a Wal Mart card and I explained why.

    read this article

    http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html
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    You just resold the gift card that is going to be used at a walmart. All you did was shift the burden onto someone else. Walmart is still going to get the business.

    Economic fail. If anything, you undercutting the retail price of the gift card gave someone else who had no plans of shopping at walmart that incentive to do so. Perhaps they enjoyed the deal so much that they plan on going to walmart even more.

    If you hated walmart you would of burned the card. You ran with the cash -- the exact same thing that you are criticizing walmart of doing.
    yeah I know what I did. I just won't go into a Wal Mart. I know others will, I just prefer not to because of the reasons I've stated. They cater to simple minded people who can't figure out how their business model affects our country. Someone actually said in this thread "atleast they are offering jobs" as if it were not for Wal Mart people would not buy stuff and nobody would have jobs because there would be no other stores. If it were not for Wal Mart people would never buy any of the products Wal Mart carries.

    In the same thread, people are telling me not to use the card to stick it to Wal Mart...so I would just be giving Wal Mart $50 without taking any of their inventory. That makes alot of sense.

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    The Irony of Wal Mart is their slogan: Save Money, Live Better. It's ironic because that is the opposite of what is happening. Everyone feeling en led to saving money is ruining our country. People are no longer paying what good are worth, they are paying for what the store feels they want to sell. I posted an article about pickles, and how you can get a years supply of pickles at Wal Mart for $3. That is a great deal for the person shopping at Wal Mart. But what about the families that live in your neighborhood who work in that industry. The guys who sell the pickles, the guys who work for the packing company, they guy who supports his family by delivering pickles to the stores. You just saved $2 on a years supply of pickles, but that means less work for all of them. The company will lay people off (people you live around) to cut costs. They will lose their homes or claim unemployment, both of which affect your bottom line both in taxes and real estate holdings. You saved yourself money on the pickles though and you get that instant gratification while Wal Mart ducks away from the side effects of low prices.

    I'm not saying we don't have the right to sales. I'm saying that Wal Mart has gotten so big that they force the prices of goods they don't make. Everyone feels en led to save money, but if people paid for things for what they are worth, a fair price, outsourcing wouldn't be what it is today.

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    read Wal Mart Effect, you will never step inside another Wal Mart

    I shop at Target. It's clean, it's nice, they pay their employees and give them benefits, and best of all they pick their carts out of the parking lot
    dont you worry...obama will save the day and give everyone health care, so shop on at wal mart!

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    The Irony of Wal Mart is their slogan: Save Money, Live Better. It's ironic because that is the opposite of what is happening. Everyone feeling en led to saving money is ruining our country. People are no longer paying what good are worth, they are paying for what the store feels they want to sell. I posted an article about pickles, and how you can get a years supply of pickles at Wal Mart for $3. That is a great deal for the person shopping at Wal Mart. But what about the families that live in your neighborhood who work in that industry. The guys who sell the pickles, the guys who work for the packing company, they guy who supports his family by delivering pickles to the stores. You just saved $2 on a years supply of pickles, but that means less work for all of them. The company will lay people off (people you live around) to cut costs. They will lose their homes or claim unemployment, both of which affect your bottom line both in taxes and real estate holdings. You saved yourself money on the pickles though and you get that instant gratification while Wal Mart ducks away from the side effects of low prices.

    I'm not saying we don't have the right to sales. I'm saying that Wal Mart has gotten so big that they force the prices of goods they don't make. Everyone feels en led to save money, but if people paid for things for what they are worth, a fair price, outsourcing wouldn't be what it is today.
    How the am I supposed to know "what something is worth"? It's worth whatever it will bring on the open market. Not 1 cent more.

    How about all the high dollar clothes they sold off at Dillards on the Riverwalk at about 10 cents on the dollar. Shouldn't that ring a bell in your head that they were charging way way too much to begin with. Same goes for any retailer that starts that 50, 60 percent off crap. Only tells me they were trying to cheat the public to begin with.

    , you are probably the guy that thinks we should be s ing out 5 bucks a gallon for gas. You know, so no one will lose their job.

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    How the am I supposed to know "what something is worth"? It's worth whatever it will bring on the open market. Not 1 cent more.

    How about all the high dollar clothes they sold off at Dillards on the Riverwalk at about 10 cents on the dollar. Shouldn't that ring a bell in your head that they were charging way way too much to begin with. Same goes for any retailer that starts that 50, 60 percent off crap. Only tells me they were trying to cheat the public to begin with.

    , you are probably the guy that thinks we should be s ing out 5 bucks a gallon for gas. You know, so no one will lose their job.
    gas is an elastic good without subs utes so that makes no sense.

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    What I'm saying is this: Rubbermaid can be forced off of Wal Mart's shelves because Wal Mart has decided that there isn't enough space for Rubbermaid because their products are more expensive than the cheaper foreign brands they carry. So they tell Rubbermaid that they can either cut the costs of their products or they can lose Wal Mart (the biggest retailer in the world). Companies like Rubbermaid are handcuffed, on one hand it might cost them $3 to make a product wal mart will only pay $2 for, on the other hand, how big of a blow would it be to lose Wal Mart as a distributor?

    It's not just Rubbermaid. It's hundred of companies, and most of them are all American. They are all strong armed by Wal Mart. It's in every industry: automotive, households, toys, everything. If Wal Mart didn't do this, people would still buy products. Suppose I needed new Tires. I could go to Wal Mart and save the $40 on my new Goodyears, but if Wal Mart wasn't around, I would still need new tires. All Wal Mart is offering me is a lower price. Yes I save $40 I can spend elsewhere, but the money Wal Mart negotiated away from Goodyear is one of a couple reasons Goodyear lays off hundreds each year. Those people live in my town and I end up paying taxes to help them and our property values reflect when guys who are laid off had to forclose on their house. So yeah I saved $40 but I'm not living any better.

    Again, Wal Mart targets simple minded folk who can't think past the initial savings. That is alright, but sometimes people need to think big picture.

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    Thunder if all the goods were made in america we'd be paying $50 for a can of pickles. I'd rather better the life of some foreigner who is willing to work hard to pick/can pickles than some lazy American who wants to unionize and pick 5 pickles a day for $45/hr.

    Look at the car companies and you decide who has the best business model. All youre doing is being a dumbass by buying the exact same good at Target vs Wal Mart. It costs the company the same, it is YOU who is getting screwed.

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    quick question for thunder or anyone... Is thunder in college?

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    Thunder if all the goods were made in america we'd be paying $50 for a can of pickles. I'd rather better the life of some foreigner who is willing to work hard to pick/can pickles than some lazy American who wants to unionize and pick 5 pickles a day for $45/hr.

    Look at the car companies and you decide who has the best business model. All youre doing is being a dumbass by buying the exact same good at Target vs Wal Mart. It costs the company the same, it is YOU who is getting screwed.
    and if all good were made in America we woudln't be ing about job loss and wouldn't be upset about pickels costing $50. The reason people lose jobs is because people in China, India and Mexico have a lower standard of living so companies could pay them less. If everything was made in America it would increase our standard of living because we would all be making more money. Simple economics. The price of an item is determined by what the public is willing to pay. So while you say pickles would be $50, that wouldn't last because the public would no longer buy pickles because they are not a necessity. What Wal Mart does is they determine the price and influence a company's ability to run their business because of their size. Wal Mart is then setting the price and the public is not.

    And Target doesn't have the same business model as Wal-Mart so you are completely wrong. Target doesn't operate to put others out of business. KMart doesn't either

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    quick question for thunder or anyone... Is thunder in college?
    no I have a degree in Business Administration with minors in Finance and Economics. I graduated in 2006

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    and people always and marginalize people's salary within certain fields. For example, they will say things like "Why should a guy who grows pickles make $100,000 a year?" assuming that someone who grows pickles is uneducated and is not worthy of such a high salary. We hear this all the time when people bring up the auto industry and trucking industry. But if people int his country made more money, there would be more money floating around this country for all to make, and there wouldn't be such a press to save money.

    Example A)If John makes $100,000 growing and selling his pickles, he is operating a profitable business which creates jobs when he hires Ron to package his pickles and Tony to drive the truck to take his pickles to the store. The stores then turn a profit on the pickles they sell for $5 a can in the mass.

    So in this example, there are several jobs that are created and these people then spend their money at other companies in the area (maybe ones you work for directly or in directly).

    Example B) A big Box retailer tells John they will no longer carry his brand because they found a Mexican brand they can sell at $2 rather than John's $5. John struggles to hang onto his business by laying off Tony the trucker and delivering his own pickles. John is now making $60,000 a year and Tony is looking for a job. Meanwhile, you are saving $3 at Wal Mart buying the pickles. However, what you don't see is the lost income you are losing because Tony and John are no longer spending their money at the company that employs you

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    Funny thread, too bad Walmart already got paid. You just put an American out of work because you didn't tell your relatives not to buy you Walmart gift cards.

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