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  1. 01-11-2010 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRHornet45
    sons its not the popular choice (thanks to the media hyping and pushing Kobe to the top) ... but Brandon Roy is HANDS DOWN a better basketball player than Kobe. I would rank Kobe somewhere between 12-15th best of all active players right now in the WWE.
    lmao
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  2. 01-11-2010 #27
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    When Kobe was 25, he's in the 1st team & denfensive 1st team. No way Roy is going to get that.
    Kobe is still in his prime and he's getting more skilled, now only the finger's bothering him.

    BTW, Pippen >>>>>>>>>>>> Gasol. U know that?
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  3. 01-11-2010 #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
    Kobe is on the decline, he's 31 and has begun to go downhill. His game is deteriorating.
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  4. 01-12-2010 #29
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    Deteriorating? Kobe was never any good to begin with. He's on par with Harold Miner. Only difference between the two is Kobe got playing time. If Harold Miner got the same minutes and took the same number of shots as Kobe he would have put up 35 PPG in a season too. Kobe was only kept on NBA rosters as a favor to his dad, a former NBA player and Jerry West was pulling the strings behind it all.
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  5. 01-12-2010 #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by namlook
    Deteriorating? Kobe was never any good to begin with. He's on par with Harold Miner. Only difference between the two is Kobe got playing time. If Harold Miner got the same minutes and took the same number of shots as Kobe he would have put up 35 PPG in a season too. Kobe was only kept on NBA rosters as a favor to his dad, a former NBA player and Jerry West was pulling the strings behind it all.

    3 rounds playoff avg stats:
    99-00 Kobe 23.1 pts，4.3ast；Shaq 28.1 pts，14.9Reb
    00-01 Kobe 31.6 pts，6.2ast；Shaq 29.2 pts，15.3Reb
    01-02 Kobe 26.6 pts，4.3ast；Shaq 26.4 pts，12.7Reb

    Reggie Miller once said Kobe was the playoff mvp (he's only in his early 20's), at that time winning the western champion meant winning the finals champion, so you're out of your mind, admit it.

    BTW who the (bleep) is Harold Miner?
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  6. 01-12-2010 #31
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    Shaq's numbers during that run was downright ridiculous. there is a reason why he won ALL THREE FINALS MVP's .... the dude single handedly won those les for the Lakers. Kobe just lucked up to be on the right team at the right time and was a great role player.
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  7. 01-12-2010 #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyputa

    3 rounds playoff avg stats:
    99-00 Kobe 23.1 pts，4.3ast；Shaq 28.1 pts，14.9Reb
    00-01 Kobe 31.6 pts，6.2ast；Shaq 29.2 pts，15.3Reb
    01-02 Kobe 26.6 pts，4.3ast；Shaq 26.4 pts，12.7Reb

    Reggie Miller once said Kobe was the playoff mvp (he's only in his early 20's), at that time winning the western champion meant winning the finals champion, so you're out of your mind, admit it.

    BTW who the (bleep) is Harold Miner?
    It's sarcasm. Obviously you aren't that good at detecting it. Harold Miner was once a dunk champion back in the 90s.
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  8. 01-12-2010 #33
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    you guys really got to stop feeding the trolls
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  9. 01-12-2010 #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chieflion
    It's sarcasm. Obviously you aren't that good at detecting it. Harold Miner was once a dunk champion back in the 90s.
    Yes it was sarcasm but it's hard to detect because so many of the people here say things that are just as outrageously stupid and they are not being sarcastic.
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  10. 01-12-2010 #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyputa

    BTW who the (bleep) is Harold Miner?
    They called him "Baby Jordan". Seriously.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...minerha01.html
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  11. 01-12-2010 #36
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    I meant I didn't care who's Harold Miner, whom only scored 1801 pts / career?
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  12. 01-12-2010 #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyputa
    I meant I didn't care who's Harold Miner, whom only scored 1801 pts / career?
    Is this a question?
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  13. 01-12-2010 #38
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    so to summarize, the list of things kobe needs to win a le: shaq pau phil jackson a basketball a jersey basketball shoes derek fisher stern the refs anything else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadOdor
    so to summarize, the list of things kobe needs to win a le: shaq pau phil jackson a basketball a jersey basketball shoes derek fisher stern the refs anything else?
    Players of other teams getting injured.
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  15. 01-12-2010 #40
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    Kobe has two broken fingers on his shooting hand and still has a better shooting % than Wade.
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  16. 01-12-2010 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRHornet45
    Shaq's numbers during that run was downright ridiculous. there is a reason why he won ALL THREE FINALS MVP's .... the dude single handedly won those les for the Lakers. Kobe just lucked up to be on the right team at the right time and was a great role player.
    Everybody knows the western champion = the final champion at that time. Shaq "single handedly" won those le? Check game 6&7 with blazers (kb blocked Sabonis' shot in g6 and shined in g7) and game 7 with kings (horry big 3). Spurs was easily beaten by lakers, Kome shined

    No doubt about Shaq's MVP, just want you to know some facts. BTW those eastern chams were with weak Centers so Shaq "single handedly won those les"
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  17. 01-12-2010 #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRHornet45
    Shaq's numbers during that run was downright ridiculous. there is a reason why he won ALL THREE FINALS MVP's .... the dude single handedly won those les for the Lakers. Kobe just lucked up to be on the right team at the right time and was a great role player.
    Robert Horry, Ron Harper, Brian shaw and Fisher would disagree but whatver ...

    OH wait BR hornet is the SMARTEST poster on this board ...he is unbiased and wise ...SHAQ was the one who won Game 4 in OT, had the winner over SA and the 50 to eliminate the Kings in the 3 peat years all of the kobe stuff? Just media hype and an illusion ...
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  18. 01-12-2010 #43
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    Wouldnt it be great if C3p and Wade were the two best players so we can see a face the facts showdown between the TWO WISEST and most UNBIASED posters on the world wide web? BRHORNET vs. Miami Heat

    BRHornet: Wade couldnt win without Shaq!!!
    Miamiheat: face the facts Wade is shooting .001% FG points better in their last game ...Case closed Wade is DEFINITIVELY better you are owned!!!
    BRHornet: Son,you are Wade's cuckold ...Look at C3p's PER Hollinger says he is the greatest player ever!!!
    Both: Well at least he is better than Kobe!!!

    ROFL!!!
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  19. 01-12-2010 #44
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    lol
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  20. 01-12-2010 #45
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    What genius!!!
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  21. 01-12-2010 #46
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    Time to face the facts that all of these ____>Kobe Bryant threads are becoming lame..lame I say!

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  22. 01-12-2010 #47
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    I disagree that Roy is better then Kobe, but I do agree Roy is pretty sick by far the 2nd best SG in the NBA behind Kobe. Props to Roy with all the injuries what he has done with his team. Imagine if the Blazers were out east where crappy teams like the Heat are the 5th seed at .500 and dropping rapidly.

    Roy is great man eventually he will be the best 2 guard in the NBA.
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  23. 01-12-2010 #48
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    Brandon Roy > Broken finger on shooting hand Kobe Bryant. I agree.
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  24. 01-13-2010 #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disturbed
    I disagree that Roy is better then Kobe, but I do agree Roy is pretty sick by far the 2nd best SG in the NBA behind Kobe. Props to Roy with all the injuries what he has done with his team. Imagine if the Blazers were out east where crappy teams like the Heat are the 5th seed at .500 and dropping rapidly.

    Roy is great man eventually he will be the best 2 guard in the NBA.
    I would still say 2nd best 2 guard is wade and Roy is not DEFINITIVELY better than Joe Johnson either ...
    IMHO I'd say Kobe has slight edge on wade, who is bit better than Roy who is equal to Roy ....
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