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Do you think Ian should put on more weight, since he would probably have more body control playing against other players, or is it just something Ian would have to adjust his game to??
Nope, more than one game, including pretty much all the preseason games. It's been the biggest knock on Ian all along actually.
Do you think Ian should put on more weight, since he would probably have more body control playing against other players, or is it just something Ian would have to adjust his game to??
Young bigs foul. Any fool knows that. The biggest knock on Ian all along is his injuries. The biggest legitimate knock on him is that he doesn't play hard.
Hey dumbass, are you going to post the same idiotic barely intelligible twice from now on to pad your post whoring numbers? I thought you worked on computers. Why is it you're still too ing stupid to post the same thought only once?
I don't see Ian playing next game unless Coach Bud hounds Pop about it and even then who knows.
Again, I think playing Ian was to motivate Dice for our big game against the Lakers, which was probably a reason they got him - to match up with the Lakers. I think this whole thing is about Dice not Ian. But I could be wrong. However it does explain the odd timing for playing Ian now of all times - it has nothing to do with Ian.
Either way it's crazy to completely shelf him. Even if he's become a one year rental at this point he is a way better option then trading for Trent Hassel or some BS like that.
I think it's just something he needs to adjust. Blair used to foul a lot early in the season, and he's gotten a lot better at that lately.
Dirk is in a class of his own. However, seeing Ian run and jump against the Nets makes me think that he has the necessary tools to at least bother someone like Dirk. He needs to brush up on his fundamentals though.
How could you knock on his injuries when he has no control over that?
He also has been available for all training camp and preseason. He even basically played on almost all preseason games. The "he doesn't play hard enough' would be valid, but I haven't heard that one before. I do distinctly remember him collecting fouls at a rate of 5 in 5 minutes during preseason.
Here's an article on bleacherreport about him from 3 months ago: LINK
Some excerpts:
He struggles to stay out of foul trouble and often exhibits lapses in concentration.
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As many times as he wows with his athleticism, he commits stupid fouls, takes bad shots or turns it over in ways that would leave even a casual fan perplexed and dumbfounded.
What I worry about is that people are neglecting he had 5 FOULS in the Nets game. It is highly likely he will pick up fouls quickly against the experienced frontline of the Lakers. I say you still have to play him, but don't expect to get a lot of minutes from him.
Yea, good point.
I ask again: Do you accept 5 fouls from a guy who gives you those other numbers in the same period of time?
you realize that this might be the major point? different players have different abilities, talent and potential.
Ian was a foul machine from the moment he entered a basket ball court. this didn't change much over the last years. bet that Spurs staff worked very hard to try to teach the game to Ian.
some players get it within weeks, some don't.
I ask again, if Ian gives you five fouls, ten points, ten rebounds and a block or two, do you take it?
I think Ian against the lakers is asking for trouble. I'd rather see our normal rotation unless there are foul problems and check out how Ian does in some of these other games coming up. Its a lot of risk for little reward, especially since a bad game would destroy his trade value and likely put him in the dog house.
If Dice doesn't pick up his game, I'd expect more of Ian in the near future. Nothing lights a fire under a player like the prospect of losing the place in your rotation.
The bottom line is you (Pop) have to play him first to make any decision, 10 mins, 5 mins, 3 mins, etc. No matter how long, you have to play him. He is a young athletic 7-footer which all the NBA teams may not have an average of 1. His mere physical presence is an asset.
If not in the regular playing time, at least in gabage time. We have blown out lot of teams, as well as being blowed out in lots of games. You have to give the kid some time to show his capability/incapability.
I would and I think Pop would too if he thought he could get that kind of production from ANY big. That's better than Bonner, Dice and Blair right there.
That said, it's obvious Pop doesn't think he can get that kind of production from Ian... and let's not forget that Pop has seen this guy in practice all season long.
That's to be expected. Young players are typically foul-prone and get virtually no respect from the officials. Look at the foul trouble Blair has had. As part of their learning process, they have to learn how to play without fouling.
Besides, so what? Ian had five fouls early in the 4th and manage to finish out the game without fouling out.
Couldn't agree more. Arriving at a decision without having empirical evidence to support the perception is prejudice. And we all know, Pop has inherited that trait from his mentors Larry Brown and Don Nelson.
It's a head-scratcher why this kid hasn't seen the floor even for garbage minutes. Why has he been the absolute last man on the rotation? The near mummified Ratliff isn't going to get consistant minutes and he's the only other center we have to back up Duncan. Duncan - Blair - Dice - Bonner is a small front line. Mahinmi is 7', long, and atheletic. That alone should earn him some garbage time.
I've been berating this backward ass strategy since the season started. Popped should have put Ratliff and Finley on the IR from the very beginning. You know what you got in these guys so what the is the hurry in playing them? It's a long year, they're both old as so it certainly can't hurt em to sit for 1/2 or even 2/3 of the season.
Hairston and Mahinmi should have been actived early (if not immediately, and Haislip too eventually) and given semi-meaningful minutes against the .500 and below weaker teams. Even if it means a few games are sacrificed. It's more important that the team sees what its got in its young players and also get those players valuable minutes for their development.
Where is "The Savior" picture when you need it ?
Has it come to this yet again???
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Besides, Ratliff likely will not even be hear next year.
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