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    Not sure. I guess it would depend on what other offers the Wiz are getting and if the Spurs truly think Tiago will come next season.
    Yeah, I say I wouldn't want to give him up assuming that the Spurs are pretty certain that they can get him next year.

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    So, Haywood would have prevented the mavs from scoring 42 in the 4th, huh?

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    Folks, every dollar that Agent Zero is fined is not only a dollar off of the payroll, it's also another dollar off the luxury tax bill. Since it appears he's probably gone for the year, that's a buttload of pressure off the Wiz to have a fire sale. They'll break the team up, but there's no reason to have an in-season fire sale. They can dangle players this summer to disappointed FA suitors and probably get better value.

    Sorry to rain on your parade.

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    Are you certain of this? It seems odd that they would help out the Wiz financially when it was found that they failed to report this.

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    ..or they could get a 1st round pick for Haywood instead of getting nothing for him when he signs somewhere else, which is very likely..he's not a star player or anything..

    the Wizards were rumored to be having a fire sale even before this Arenas incident..their team was heavily underachieving and going nowhere..I would expect at least 2 of Jamison, Butler and Haywood to get traded..

    LOL @ the Mavs comment..I would like to think a defensive C would help the Spurs prevent the Mavs from scoring 50 ing points in the paint..

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    Folks, every dollar that Agent Zero is fined is not only a dollar off of the payroll, it's also another dollar off the luxury tax bill. Since it appears he's probably gone for the year, that's a buttload of pressure off the Wiz to have a fire sale. They'll break the team up, but there's no reason to have an in-season fire sale. They can dangle players this summer to disappointed FA suitors and probably get better value.

    Sorry to rain on your parade.
    As for Washington, one source close to the situation said in the wake of Gilbert Arenas' indefinite suspension this week: "The Wizards are 100 percent going to try to void Gil's contract, and they're 100 percent going to clean house. There is now not a single player they wouldn't trade."

    http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/p...ris-bosh-chase

    I agree that there is no reason to rush and have a firesale, voiding Gil's contract will more than get them under the tax. However they are currently going to have to pay 8.6 million, the expected payout to teams under the tax will be about 4.5 million, which is a 13 million dollar swing.

    I doubt the whole arbitration process for Gil will be finished by the trade deadline, so the Wiz will not be able to be assured that they will get under the tax from that scenario. So, I do look for them to make some moves to get under the cap.

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    Also, voiding a contract is very tough..Arenas would pretty much have to be convicted, and even THAT might not guarantee that they get a void..

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    Also, voiding a contract is very tough..Arenas would pretty much have to be convicted, and even THAT might not guarantee that they get a void..
    Actually, if he's convicted, the NBAPA wouldn't have a leg to stand on for an appeal of the void. There was some pretty specific CBA language in one of the posts that I don't feel like diving for that seems to support the Wiz should they choose to void.

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    Not Wizards related, but what do you guys think of Joel Anthony from the Heat?

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    Whatever happens it needs to be done quick to give that player time to adapt to our system and players before the playoffs.
    I'd love to see someone like Haywood but it's all a pipe dream. Pop is stubborn and is likely going to live and die with Bonner chucking threes for the rest of the season.

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    yea i like mcguire or mcgee being a spur.. i know nick young is too much to ask lol

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    yea i like mcguire or mcgee being a spur.. i know nick young is too much to ask lol
    Those are likely the players the Wiz are NOT going to get rid of. They're young, talented and cheap.

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    If the Spurs got Haywood, I don't think I would have a problem with him taking Blair's minutes...

    You could have Dice coming off the bench, since it seems he plays better coming off of it anyway. And Ratliff is already only used in specialty type roles anyway...

    Blair and Dice sharing any minutes off the bench would probably be limited, but as the season goes on, is there really a guarantee that Pop would have Blair in the game playing important minutes anyway? At least Haywood has playoff experience and can provide the interior presence that the Spurs need.

    The only thing that worries me about getting Haywood is giving up Bonner, he's important to the spacing on the floor, as everyone knows...Obviously if you give up Bonner for him, the only big that can effectively space the floor is Dice...

    It would be interesting to see though.
    Forget about floor spacing. The spurs need more a defensive low post presence who can block some shots, intimidate and clog the lane to slow down the easy scoring around the basket and grab rebounds.

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    Haywood would do nothing for this team. We need length and quickness to compete in the west.

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    So, Haywood would have prevented the mavs from scoring 42 in the 4th, huh?

    Haywood would've stopped Dampier from going 6-6 while blocking shots and grabbing boards in the process.

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    The more I think of it, the more I wish the Spurs could nab Jamison.

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    The more I think of it, the more I wish the Spurs could nab Jamison.
    No defense. No thanks.

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    No defense. No thanks.
    He is not a terrible defender and he is mobile enough to hang with Pau. Very good rebounder and could really spread the floor. Great guy as well.

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    Jamison would fit the Spurs rotation perfectly especially since he's versatile and a solid 3 point shooter, but he wouldn't be the answer for our defensive woes.

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    I wouldn't be upset at all if we got Jamison..I don't watch him enough, he's obviously a very good player, but Wizards fans say he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA, so that wouldn't help..

    I think he'll go to Cleveland..that would be scary..

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    Jamison?

    He will be paid $13.4M in 2011 and $15.1M in 2012. Spurs' owners have still made a big financial effort this summer, do you think it's realistic to think that Spurs could acquire a player paid that much?

    If Spurs try to get one of Washington's player, it likely will be Haywood. Spurs could offer Bonner + Mahinmi + Haislip + 1st round pick for Haywood. Mahinmi and/or Haislip could be send to a third team to allow Wizards to save a little more money. Other teams will likely make a best offer for Haywood but it's worth the try.

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    Haywood would be perfect.

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    Jamison?

    He will be paid $13.4M in 2011 and $15.1M in 2012. Spurs' owners have still made a big financial effort this summer, do you think it's realistic to think that Spurs could acquire a player paid that much?

    If Spurs try to get one of Washington's player, it likely will be Haywood. Spurs could offer Bonner + Mahinmi + Haislip + 1st round pick for Haywood. Mahinmi and/or Haislip could be send to a third team to allow Wizards to save a little more money. Other teams will likely make a best offer for Haywood but it's worth the try.
    Agreed. I mentioned this in another thread though I didn't throw in a draft pick which would help sweeten the deal and used Hairston in place of Haislip.

    http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=5368315

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    Thats great and all..he's averaging that on a horrible basketball team...problem is, he would not average anywhere close to that on the Spurs.
    Agreed, if you put Dice (or even Bonner) on the Wizards and had Haywood on the Spurs, the first two would look like a more attractive option to this board.

    Other than some shotblocking, he adds absolutely nothing to this roster. I'd rather roll with Ian.

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    Agreed, if you put Dice (or even Bonner) on the Wizards and had Haywood on the Spurs, the first two would look like a more attractive option to this board.

    Other than some shotblocking, he adds absolutely nothing to this roster. I'd rather roll with Ian.

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