Bynum for Bosh

[Findog]

People have been putting that guy in Lebron, Wade tier for years when he is nowhere close that it.

Who has been doing that? That's preposterous.

Bynum would easily be an All-Star East and he would be one out West if he remained the Lakers 2nd option instead of taking a step back for Pau

He's also inconsistent, injury-prone, hyper-obsessed with how many touches he gets and an iffy at ude to boot. All that and more for 3 years and $45 million after this season.

[Findog]

Lakers are winning a championship with or without Bosh. He makes the Lakers a much worse defensive team and while only giving them a minimal, less efficient upgrade on offense.

Probably so, but if this is true, then the Lakers FO obviously likes the idea of going forward with Gasol/Bosh over Gasol/Bynum. It's not just about the 2009-10 season. I have a hard time seeing Colangelo sending Bosh to the Lakers. I agree that for this season only I'd prefer the Gasol/Bynum combo because it's a more balanced lineup. But the Lakers could always go out and get a serviceable defensive big to complement Gasol/Bosh in the offseason.

The Rockets can put together a pretty good proposal themselves:

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/p...ris-bosh-chase

[Findog]

He signed the exact same deal as Lebron and Wade. And he's usually mentioned as one of thecenterpieces of the 2010 sweepstakes discussion along with Wade and Bron while guys like Dirk ( I do realize he has a player option here) are rarely mentioned.

That doesn't mean knowledgeable NBA observers put him in LeBron and Wade's class. Any team that trades for him before the summer will inherit his Bird rights and have to be willing to give him the max to keep him, and I just don't think he's a max player.

[21_Blessings]

Who has been doing that? That's preposterous.

The media and it's been going on for years. They were hyping for MVP only a couple seasons ago. He got the exact same deal as Bron, Wade and is looking for a max contract (and he'll get it most likley) that he obviously isn't worth.

He's also inconsistent, injury-prone,

Bynum had two flukey knee injuries which were caused by his teammates. 22 years of age. Way early to call to him injury prone. He's no Eric Dampier, that's for sure.

hyper-obsessed with how many touches he gets and an iffy at ude to boot.

Ignorant, inaccurate opinion from a guy that knows nothing about the Lakers. Bynum's been mature for his age considering how he handled Kobe throwing him under the bus along with most of the LA sports media..He scores as efficiently as anyone on the Lakers and he hasn't said one word about his obvious lack of touches.

All that and more for 3 years and $45 million after this season.

3 years 45 million and a team option on the last year is a good contract for a 20/10 big man with the potential to be even better. And 20/10+ is exactly what Bynum would be posting on a franchise like Toronto featuring as the number 1 option.

[21_Blessings]

That doesn't mean knowledgeable NBA observers put him in LeBron and Wade's class. Any team that trades for him before the summer will inherit his Bird rights and have to be willing to give him the max to keep him, and I just don't think he's a max player.

But they have put him in their tier in years past. 06/07 he was the exact same player that never plays good defense in a ty conference and he came in 7th in MVP shares. I don't think he's a max contract guy either but he's going to get one most likely.

[21_Blessings]

Probably so, but if this is true, then the Lakers FO obviously likes the idea of going forward with Gasol/Bosh over Gasol/Bynum.

It's not true though. Peter Vescey comes out with re ed trade rumors every season about the Lakers. You do realize it came from the New York Post, right? And lik I said if the Lakers were willing ship Bynum for Bosh it would have happened already.

t's not just about the 2009-10 season. I have a hard time seeing Colangelo sending Bosh to the Lakers. I agree that for this season only I'd prefer the Gasol/Bynum combo because it's a more balanced lineup. But the Lakers could always go out and get a serviceable defensive big to complement Gasol/Bosh in the offseason.

Colangelo would be re ed not to trade Bosh for Bynum. He won't be seeing a better deal than that and it would be a deal that could save his job consideirng Bynum's upside. Team option on Bynum's contract makes it attractive and way easier to move in the event he didn't work out.

Serviceable defensive big, like who? Theory craft is fun and all but the Lakers would have nothing but the MLE to use and would be paying like 130 million in taxes after Bosh leverages his way to a max deal.

The Rockets can put together a pretty good proposal themselves:

Toronto is utterly lacking a center because Bargs is nowhere near a real one. Bynum + filler would a better deal than Houston's. Scola is a free agent and he's going to be looking for Lamar Odom money or possibly more. You would have to rely on a sign and trade happening which is nowhere close to a sure thing.

[monosylab1k]

Why include Bynum? They're the Lakers, just trade Vujacic & Adam Morrison for Bosh.

[TheManFromAcme]

Why include Bynum? They're the Lakers, just trade Vujacic & Adam Morrison for Bosh.

[TheManFromAcme]

Drew isn't going anywhere. The important core to this team is still Kobe, Pau, Odom and Drew. The nucleus if you will. The hopes of hoisting more banners and lifting more rests on these 4 guys.

Insane thought if you ask me.

[TheMACHINE]

Anyone know bynums averages when Gasol is in the lineup this year?

[The Gemini Method]

Anyone know bynums averages when Gasol is in the lineup this year?

pu*sy numbers...

[Findog]

But they have put him in their tier in years past. 06/07 he was the exact same player that never plays good defense in a ty conference and he came in 7th in MVP shares. I don't think he's a max contract guy either but he's going to get one most likely.

Then you would have to agree that it's the Lakers who don't want to do this deal. They're too smart to s out that kind of cash for Bosh with the team that they already have.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Anyone know bynums averages when Gasol is in the lineup this year?

The only thing I know about that is Bynum has not had one double figure rebounding night with Gasol in the lineup.

[The Gemini Method]

The only thing I know about that is Bynum has not had one double figure rebounding night with Gasol in the lineup.

He finally had his first double-double in 80 years on Sunday...I don't know why he doesn't man th up and go nuts when Gasol is in the line-up. For that reason, I'm actually all for a Bosh-Bynum trade. If he somehow changes course when Pau gets back, then I would be hesitant to trade him.

[hater]

I can see Bynum traded. But trading him for a Gasol clone would be pretty stupid, unless Gasol's injury is bad?

then trade Gasol for Bosch. ing backstabing fakers

[resistanze]

The media and it's been going on for years. They were hyping for MVP only a couple seasons ago. He got the exact same deal as Bron, Wade and is looking for a max contract (and he'll get it most likley) that he obviously isn't worth.

Um no. Bosh signed a four-year, 65 million dollar extension (player option in 4th year). Lebron and Wade signed three-year, 60 million extensions. If we assume he opts out after this season, he would've made about $43-44 million in the three years. Ironically, less the the three years left on Grampa Bynum's contract.

Bosh is a second option on a championship contender, no doubt about that. He's not worth max money but when LaMarcus Alrigde is getting 65 mil/5 years, Bynum's getting 58 mil/4 years, and Bogut's getting 60 mil/5 years, you best believe Bosh is gonna get paid.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He finally had his first double-double in 80 years on Sunday...I don't know why he doesn't man th up and go nuts when Gasol is in the line-up. For that reason, I'm actually all for a Bosh-Bynum trade. If he somehow changes course when Pau gets back, then I would be hesitant to trade him.

Personally I wouldn't trade Bynum for Bosh. I think Bosh is a soft ass pussy who is overrated as . As flawed as Bynum is Toronto wouldn't do any better than Bynum if they traded Bosh.

[TheMACHINE]

Bynum cant play with Gasol. Period.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Bynum cant play with Gasol. Period.

What is the Lakers' record when Gasol and Bynum have played this year.....exactly. If you think those two can't play together then you won't like Gasol and Bosh. Bynum gives them bulk inside, granted his defensive intensity isn't always there, he's never let a 37 year old Shaq drop 45 points.

[hater]

Bynum cant play with Gasol. Period.

and Bosch can?

[resistanze]

What is the Lakers' record when Gasol and Bynum have played this year.....exactly. If you think those two can't play together then you won't like Gasol and Bosh. Bynum gives them bulk inside, granted his defensive intensity isn't always there, he's never let a 37 year old Shaq drop 45 points.

Yeah RuPaul got his ass owned there. I don't think it matters though whether they have Bynum/Bosh/Whogives a when gasol's there. I mean, they made it to the Finals without Bynum and won last year with a ty, non-existent Bynum.

[TheMACHINE]

and Bosch can?

Well lets find out.

[TheMACHINE]

What is the Lakers' record when Gasol and Bynum have played this year.....exactly. If you think those two can't play together then you won't like Gasol and Bosh. Bynum gives them bulk inside, granted his defensive intensity isn't always there, he's never let a 37 year old Shaq drop 45 points.

I'd play Gasol at center and Bosh at PF. Its not like Bynum was grabbing rebounds when Gasol was around.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'd play Gasol at center and Bosh at PF. Its not like Bynum was grabbing rebounds when Gasol was around.

Yeah but he was defending the other team's best big and allowing Pau to focus more on pick and roll D. Just my view that that trade makes LA the same soft team that got reamed by Boston in 2008, I could be wrong though.

[TheMACHINE]

Yeah but he was defending the other team's best big and allowing Pau to focus more on pick and roll D. Just my view that that trade makes LA the same soft team that got reamed by Boston in 2008, I could be wrong though.

Well in Boston 2008...bynum was nowhere to be seen...i figured Bosh would atleast show up even a little bit. lol