Peyton Manning wins NFL record fourth MVP award

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I just wanted to compare first and second half splits(1st 8 games, 2nd 8 games) between Rivers and Manning, who were both deserving:

Rivers:

60.6% Comp
14TDs, 6 INTs
8.19 YPA
5.1 TD%
2.2 INT%

94.62 QB Rating for the his 1st 8 games

71.2% Comp
14 TDs, 3 INTs
9.48 YPA
6.6 TD%
1.4 INT%

117.04 QB rating for his 2nd 8 games

Manning:

70.6% Comp
17 TDs, 5 INTs
8.13 YPA
5.4 TD%
1.6 INT%

106.25 QB Rating for his 1st 8 games

66.7% Comp
16 TDs, 11 INTs
7.58 YPA
6.2 TD%
4.3 INT%

92.12 QB rating for his 2nd 8 games

Both had equally bad running games(3.3 YPC for SD, 3.5 YPC for Indy) and comparable defenses throughout the season.

Rivers definitely deserved more consideration than a paltry two votes. It's really unbelievable that he's basically done what Manning has done the last two years and only received 4 total votes while Manning has collected a whopping 71.

To put those 4 votes in some context, Chad ing Pennington has received the same number of votes during the same time frame.

[J.T.]

Maybe he should do some commercials and get a little more exposure than having LL Cool J do it for him.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

There's nothing more he really can do as a player. Maybe his only shot is throwing his ugly mug on a NY building like Oregon did for Harrington.

[symple19]

Rivers performance definitely warranted more than 4 total votes, but Peyton basically coaches the Colts. If you look up 'intangibles' in the dictionary there's a picture of PM. I believe this is why you see the votes roll the way they do.

Philip is underrated, no doubt, but strange as this may sound, so is Peyton. I don't think anyone will realize just how good Peyton is until he's done playing.

[760Spursfan]

Rivers performance definitely warranted more than 4 total votes, but Peyton basically coaches the Colts. If you look up 'intangibles' in the dictionary there's a picture of PM. I believe this is why you see the votes roll the way they do.

Philip is underrated, no doubt, but strange as this may sound, so is Peyton. I don't think anyone will realize just how good Peyton is until he's done playing.

Well said, PM did deserve the MVP he's had a great year and until the chargers go undefeated in the reg season or win the SB Rivers will always be in the shadows of PM and Brady.

BTW symple19 love the chick with the pasties on here s!

[stretch]

you mean the voters are also scared less of manning's field presence?

Rothlesberger?

steelers arent even in the playoffs this year, you ing dumbass

[Blake]

steelers arent even in the playoffs this year, you ing dumbass

no, but Roth has won more super bowls than Manning in less time, dumb .

[Sigz]

If you look up 'intangibles' in the dictionary there's a picture of PM. I believe this is why you see the votes roll the way they do.

I did not see a picture of PM after looking that word up, dumb ass.

[symple19]

Well said, PM did deserve the MVP he's had a great year and until the chargers go undefeated in the reg season or win the SB Rivers will always be in the shadows of PM and Brady.

BTW symple19 love the chick with the pasties on here s!

Thanks man

[symple19]

I did not see a picture of PM after looking that word up, dumb ass.

If I have anything to say to you, I'll do it in your sad, cankle-riffic, stalker thread.

Stay away from threads where actual discussions go on. These are for grown-ups

[LakerHater]

This is for Ducks & other haters!!!

[J.T.]

This is for Ducks & other haters!!!

[BanditHiro]

no, but Roth has won more super bowls than Manning in less time, dumb .

Proving it takes Teams not QBs to win Superbowl.

[holcs50]

Rivers performance definitely warranted more than 4 total votes, but Peyton basically coaches the Colts. If you look up 'intangibles' in the dictionary there's a picture of PM. I believe this is why you see the votes roll the way they do.

Philip is underrated, no doubt, but strange as this may sound, so is Peyton. I don't think anyone will realize just how good Peyton is until he's done playing.

Very very well put my fellow giant and spurs fan. Rivers is way underrated because a few reasons-1st people generally dont like his demeanor outside diego 2nd-He always, and always, and i mean always counts on gates, jackson, floyd rofl, to catch the horrible throws he makes . 3rd-he's got the amazing LT of 2009/10 coming out his backfield along with sproles so he must have a lot of support there. But i mean yea he just isn't that good, o i forgot 4th-his throwing mechanics are so ugly and so unconventional....gross, must mean he sucks.

In reality people who don't know need to STFU. And for one of the stupid reasons above you discount his talent....well on you for being a lil who doesnt really watch football

Onto peyton, guy is great-amazing-every sick word i could come up....and he completely deserved it this year....BUT if rivers won it, if you watch football you would know he deserves it also. in tired of the pathetic excuses of why rivers isnt good on here or any other site, ing watch a game besides your own teams games. If you have then u would shut ur mouth. Rivers and manning this year were close imo. I have no problem w manning winnin but rivers few votes, thats a joke.

[symple19]

Another reason he (Philip) doesn't get the votes is because he's on the west coast. I know it's the tired old east-coast bias argument, but it rings true all to often. East coasters just don't see him play as often, and Rivers perceived prickly personality probably doesn't help either.

Peyton deserved it. Phil also deserved it, but I think Rivers will get at least one before it's all said and done, assuming the Chargers keep a solid O-line around.

I still find it remarkable how well the Rivers/Manning trade worked out for both teams.

[Sigz]

If I have anything to say to you, I'll do it in your sad, cankle-riffic, stalker thread.

Stay away from threads where actual discussions go on. These are for grown-ups

This is the NFL forum. A forum for non-fat asses.

[Sigz]

I still find it remarkable how well the Rivers/Manning trade worked out for both teams.

It's worked out so well for SD, that they have a Super Bowl to show for it.

They've only been one of the most talented teams the past five seasons... And yet, what do they have to show for it? AFC west champion trophies? ROFL