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    Believe.
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    This article speaks volumes about Pop and Duncan so I don't need to pile on in this case...

    I pulled the main and most revealing points from the article and they're bolded and italicized... for those who are reading averse feel free to skip to these points:

    "Even among his most ardent supporters and diehard Lakers fans, there was disagreement Wednesday. A significant faction passionately believed Bryant should skip the game Wednesday night in Dallas to rest — and maybe skip many more games — fearing for his safety if he wouldn't exercise caution on his own with a bad back and fractured finger.

    In fact, San Antonio beat the Lakers on Tuesday night, when Bryant wound up crippled with back spasms, and the Spurs proceeded to have Tim Duncan sit out Wednesday night in Oklahoma City.



    Why? Just to rest. Duncan, a fellow four-time champ and only two years older than Bryant, wasn't even hurt. And Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said he'll do it again and again this season in hopes of having Duncan fresher for playoff glory.


    Neither Bryant nor Phil Jackson has the kind of prescription for Popovich's long view. They are in-the-moment guys, and Jackson believes regular-season moments serve as firm steppingstones toward that playoff glory.


    Bryant sensed his back tightening late, particularly when he tried to go left, so he knew to go right on his tie-breaking 19-footer over Josh Howard with 28.9 seconds to play. Jackson locked eyes with Bryant to see if he wanted a timeout, but Bryant knew what he wanted.





    If there can be less way than no way, that's where Bryant stands on sitting out. He has not missed a game with injury or illness in more than three years. That streak might just rank as personal point of pride...

    While he rested his back late Tuesday night in San Antonio, Bryant mind was racing to figure out how to play Wednesday night in Dallas...



    As Bryant said when we sat down for a lengthy interview before the season, he doesn't understand how his fans fail to understand that he's nowhere near the end of his career with how much he loves to play and the revolutionary manner in which he attends to his body.
    It's simply a fanatical desire to punch the clock that most people who don't love their jobs can't fathom.


    Bryant went for 10, and his teammates went for 90.
    "Great win," Bryant said. "I love the win even more because it gives our bench new life. It gives them confidence; they've been struggling for awhile."





    I later told Bryant what Odom had said and wondered if Bryant's sore back had actually helped Odom and Artest register what they can do, Bryant replied with surprising animation at the end of such a long day. Said Bryant: "I thought, 'It's about (expletive) time. It's about time. What the (heck) you guys waiting for? Don't sit around and wait for me to bail your (butts) out all the time. Get going – because it makes us a better team. Don't worry about me. You've got to be aggressive.' "


    Just as those fans who admire Bryant still don't fully get him, the teammates who admire him need to understand, too.
    He pushes his limits for his own reasons."

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/34853168/ns/sports-nba/

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    Veteran DazedAndConfused's Avatar
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    I trust in Phil and Kobe.

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    Kobe knew that even if he wasn't even 50% that his presence alone takes pressure off the other players.

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    I hate athletes that don't know when it's time to let go..

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    I hate posters that put sixteen periods between each word.

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    The Wemby Assembly z0sa's Avatar
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    I hate posters that put sixteen periods between each word.
    ive asked him like 3-4 times why he does that , he never answers.

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    Pop took his brain back. xellos88330's Avatar
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    Trying to take a dig at Pop and Duncan?

    If that is the way you see it, than thats the way you see it. Nothing I can say can change your mind.

    Please attempt to understand this. Say Duncan fouls out of a playoff contest early... wouldn't you like to know that your team can still keep playing on at a high level even without your best player? Kobe is preventing his team from gaining experience without him on the court. How will the Lakers function without Bryant? Do you feel comfortable when Bryant is out of the game?

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    Trying to take a dig at Pop and Duncan?

    If that is the way you see it, than thats the way you see it. Nothing I can say can change your mind.

    Please attempt to understand this. Say Duncan fouls out of a playoff contest early... wouldn't you like to know that your team can still keep playing on at a high level even without your best player? Kobe is preventing his team from gaining experience without him on the court. How will the Lakers function without Bryant? Do you feel comfortable when Bryant is out of the game?
    Kobe is doing nothing of the sort. He's not the coach. Phil stated if it will hurt the team to play Kobe when he's not 100% he won't play him. Sometimes playing hurt sends a message to the rest of the team and gets guys to dig a little deeper.

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    As Bryant said when we sat down for a lengthy interview before the season, he doesn't understand how his fans fail to understand that he's nowhere near the end of his career with how much he loves to play and the revolutionary manner in which he attends to his body.
    And people think he only has a few more years left.....




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    I can always count on fubuddy to brighten up my day

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    TD since 97 ezau's Avatar
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    Nothing to here, it's the same Kobe bravado that we all know for years. Athletes who never know when to quit usually damage the legacy that worked hard to establish

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    Nothing to here, it's the same Kobe bravado that we all know for years. Athletes who never know when to quit usually damage the legacy that worked hard to establish
    See: Jordan, Michael

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    Ridding the world of Alien Scum...Relentlessly. Man In Black's Avatar
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    You guys never met his dad. I was once a Clipper Ballboy and his dad was even more selfish than KBB. Joe Jellybean would to Gene Shue about playing time, about taking shots during critical periods of the game, never once caring that Coach Shue had All-Stars in then Lloyd Free & Randy Smith and a solid interior with Swen Nater.

    Joe got so pissed off about it that he bailed for Italy after a year in Houston. Lifetime NBA PPG?...8.7
    Stll pissed so much that he instilled in his son a pervasive let Bryants' rule the roost at ude. Like they should be en led.

    While KBB's playing career may not be done for awhile, his dominance seems to now have limits. Ain't Father Time a ?
    Last edited by Man In Black; 01-15-2010 at 02:20 AM.

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    Was his father a rapist too?..it could be in the genes..

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    Can someone let me know cause I really don't want to be rude. Is F_U_Buddy... like... slow or re ed?

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    hold mah dick! duhoh's Avatar
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    Can someone let me know cause I really don't want to be rude. Is F_U_Buddy... like... slow or re ed?
    you aren't rude at all

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    Neither Bryant nor Phil Jackson has the kind of prescription for Popovich's long view. They are in-the-moment guys, and Jackson believes regular-season moments serve as firm steppingstones toward that playoff glory.

    If there can be less way than no way, that's where Bryant stands on sitting out. He has not missed a game with injury or illness in more than three years. That streak might just rank as personal point of pride...
    Being a Spurs fan, I would rather have Bryant and Phil feed their ego by winning the Iron Man contest. They should and must play Bryant 46+ minutes a game!

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    I trust in Phil and Kobe.
    good for you. should play Kobe longer minutes.

    On a more serious note, I think Lakers can win it all even without Kobe as long as Gasol is healthy.

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    While KBB's playing career may not be done for awhile, his dominance seems to now have limits. Ain't Father Time a ?
    Kobe's winning les in his 30's while Duncan is getting his ass kicked out the playoffs in the 1st round despite playing next to an all-star point guard in Parker.

    Father time is a . But it seems Kobe is his favorite son.

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    Pop took his brain back. xellos88330's Avatar
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    Kobe is doing nothing of the sort. He's not the coach. Phil stated if it will hurt the team to play Kobe when he's not 100% he won't play him. Sometimes playing hurt sends a message to the rest of the team and gets guys to dig a little deeper.
    He is doing it whether you notice it or not.

    Just look at the game between Spurs and Lakers. Kobe left in the fourth quarter. The bench brings the Lakers back... no Kobe to help finish it off. Then, they lose by 20 points.

    Playing hurt can sometimes send the right message. I am not denying that. It could also send the wrong one.

    If I played for the Lakers my thoughts would be, "Look at this asshole... he has no faith that we can do the job without him. How self centered can you get?"

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    So the author is just jacking off to Kobe being a "warrior".

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    Like Kobe, f_u_buddy oftentimes tries so hard that he ends up trolling himself by accident.

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    So the author is just jacking off to Kobe being a "warrior".
    Yeah, you could give the writer the benefit of the doubt and say he was simply making an observation that the coaches' styles are different, but for FUB to interpret that as an indictment on Duncan's work ethic is homerism. Duncan's long hours and hard work behind the scenes have been well-do ented.

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    Perhaps somebody could explain how this in any way is a scathing indictment on Duncan's work effort and Pop's coaching philosophy?

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