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    Danny G enters the fray;

    By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: January 15th, 2010



    You thought it had something to do with tectonic plates. But apparently not according to this dramatic new insight into the Haiti earthquake from the much-loved international star of Lethal Weapon, Lethal Weapon 2, Lethal Weapon 3, Lethal Weapon 4 and Predator 2. (Hat tip: Burgess, via Tim Blair)


    “What happened in Haiti could happen to anywhere in the Caribbean because all these island nations are in peril because of global warming.”

    “When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I’m saying? We have to act now!”



    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...-danny-glover/

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    He was saying today that it's their fault for not having better built buildings, and that their national religion- voodoo tells them not to plan for anything and to abuse their children
    The Underlying Tragedy

    By DAVID BROOKS
    On Oct. 17, 1989, a major earthquake with a magnitude of 7.0 struck the Bay Area in Northern California. Sixty-three people were killed. This week, a major earthquake, also measuring a magnitude of 7.0, struck near Port-au-Prince, Haiti. The Red Cross estimates that between 45,000 and 50,000 people have died.
    This is not a natural disaster story. This is a poverty story. It’s a story about poorly constructed buildings, bad infrastructure and terrible public services. On Thursday, President Obama told the people of Haiti: “You will not be forsaken; you will not be forgotten.” If he is going to remain faithful to that vow then he is going to have to use this tragedy as an occasion to rethink our approach to global poverty. He’s going to have to acknowledge a few difficult truths.
    The first of those truths is that we don’t know how to use aid to reduce poverty. Over the past few decades, the world has spent trillions of dollars to generate growth in the developing world. The countries that have not received much aid, like China, have seen tremendous growth and tremendous poverty reductions. The countries that have received aid, like Haiti, have not.
    In the recent anthology “What Works in Development?,” a group of economists try to sort out what we’ve learned. The picture is grim. There are no policy levers that consistently correlate to increased growth. There is nearly zero correlation between how a developing economy does one decade and how it does the next. There is no consistently proven way to reduce corruption. Even improving governing ins utions doesn’t seem to produce the expected results.
    The chastened tone of these essays is captured by the economist Abhijit Banerjee: “It is not clear to us that the best way to get growth is to do growth policy of any form. Perhaps making growth happen is ultimately beyond our control.”
    The second hard truth is that micro-aid is vital but insufficient. Given the failures of macrodevelopment, aid organizations often focus on microprojects. More than 10,000 organizations perform missions of this sort in Haiti. By some estimates, Haiti has more nongovernmental organizations per capita than any other place on earth. They are doing the Lord’s work, especially these days, but even a blizzard of these efforts does not seem to add up to comprehensive change.
    Third, it is time to put the thorny issue of culture at the center of efforts to tackle global poverty. Why is Haiti so poor? Well, it has a history of oppression, slavery and colonialism. But so does Barbados, and Barbados is doing pretty well. Haiti has endured ruthless dictators, corruption and foreign invasions. But so has the Dominican Republic, and the D.R. is in much better shape. Haiti and the Dominican Republic share the same island and the same basic environment, yet the border between the two societies offers one of the starkest contrasts on earth — with trees and progress on one side, and deforestation and poverty and early death on the other.
    As Lawrence E. Harrison explained in his book “The Central Liberal Truth,” Haiti, like most of the world’s poorest nations, suffers from a complex web of progress-resistant cultural influences. There is the influence of the voodoo religion, which spreads the message that life is capricious and planning futile. There are high levels of social mistrust. Responsibility is often not internalized. Child-rearing practices often involve neglect in the early years and harsh retribution when kids hit 9 or 10.
    We’re all supposed to politely respect each other’s cultures. But some cultures are more progress-resistant than others, and a horrible tragedy was just exacerbated by one of them.
    Fourth, it’s time to promote locally led paternalism. In this country, we first tried to tackle poverty by throwing money at it, just as we did abroad. Then we tried microcommunity efforts, just as we did abroad. But the programs that really work involve intrusive paternalism.
    These programs, like the Harlem Children’s Zone and the No Excuses schools, are led by people who figure they don’t understand all the factors that have contributed to poverty, but they don’t care. They are going to replace parts of the local culture with a highly demanding, highly intensive culture of achievement — involving everything from new child-rearing practices to stricter schools to better job performance.
    It’s time to take that approach abroad, too. It’s time to find self-confident local leaders who will create No Excuses countercultures in places like Haiti, surrounding people — maybe just in a neighborhood or a school — with middle-class assumptions, an achievement ethos and tough, measurable demands.
    The late political scientist Samuel P. Huntington used to acknowledge that cultural change is hard, but cultures do change after major traumas. This earthquake is certainly a trauma. The only question is whether the outside world continues with the same old, same old.
    Are you going to go after Brooks too?
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    I agree with Rush on the fact that if you go through the White House to donate money, you will end up on a contact list for BHO. There is nothing illogical about thinking that. What is so terrible to say it? Now if you take it out of context the way MSNBC does and say he is against aid to Haiti, then I can see people getting upset. Rush didn't think you should go to the Whitehouse website to donate. He had people on saying where to donate. Obama is a great politician. It's pretty much been his only job.

    Everytime I have heard Rush talk about sending money to Haiti, which he cited as getting the most aid from us anyway, is that it will go to the War lords. Why does MSNBC and the drive bys always lose credibility to try and falsely discredit someone who doesn't need to run for anything?

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    Uhh yeah I am

    he even mentioned that on the air you ing neocon

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    I agree with Rush on the fact that if you go through the White House to donate money, you will end up on a contact list for BHO.
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/...round-and-work

    Why don't you try actually donating? You get a nice little message telling you you're leaving the White House's servers entirely when you try to.

    Everytime I have heard Rush talk about sending money to Haiti, which he cited as getting the most aid from us anyway, is that it will go to the War lords. Why does MSNBC and the drive bys always lose credibility to try and falsely discredit someone who doesn't need to run for anything?
    You mean the notorious war lords of the Red Cross and Salvation Army?

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    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/...round-and-work

    Why don't you try actually donating? You get a nice little message telling you you're leaving the White House's servers entirely when you try to.



    You mean the notorious war lords of the Red Cross and Salvation Army?
    I donated without going through the WH but I went through your link and you are right. The other part of your post is wrong though. Do you know how the RC and SA get relief out to everyone?

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    RUSH: I'm gonna respond to this absolute BS that I said don't donate. But, you know, I do not make this program about me. I try very hard not to make this program about me. So if I have time to deal with that, I will. I'm confident everybody in this audience knows what I said and what I didn't say. Even the Washington Post says without the context, "What Limbaugh said is horrible." All I said was, if you paid your income taxes, that's how you donate to government for aid, and sure enough, here comes Obama announcing $100 million from the government for aid to Haiti, fine and dandy. But, you paid for it, it's your taxes. All I said was if you're going to donate do it outside the government, pure and simple. I was attacked, folks, because I am the leading voice of mainstream conservative views, not for any other reason. And this outrage is totally feigned, just as Tony Blankley said, all this outrage at me is totally faked up. They know exactly what I said, and they know for a fact that I would never tell people not to donate to any charitable cause like this, so it is what it is.

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    RUSH: David Brooks today in the New York Times is basically saying what I said yesterday and was attacked for, that giving aid money to countries does not help them grow. Here it is right here in the New York Times, and nobody's mad at them. Do I need to read it? Yeah, let me. "On Oct. 17, 1989, a major earthquake with a magnitude of 7.0 struck the Bay Area in Northern California. Sixty-three people were killed. This week, a major earthquake, also measuring a magnitude of 7.0, struck near Port-au-Prince, Haiti. The Red Cross estimates that between 45,000 and 50,000 people have died. This is not a natural disaster story. This is a poverty story. It's a story about poorly constructed buildings, bad infrastructure and terrible public services. On Thursday, President Obama told the people of Haiti: 'You will not be forsaken; you will not be forgotten.'

    If he is going to remain faithful to that vow then he is going to have to use this tragedy as an occasion to rethink our approach to global poverty. He's going to have to acknowledge a few difficult truths. The first of those truths is that we don't know how to use aid to reduce poverty. Over the past few decades, the world has spent trillions of dollars to generate growth in the developing world. The countries that have not received much aid, like China, have seen tremendous growth and tremendous poverty reductions. The countries that have received aid, like Haiti, have not." Oh, my gosh, this is deja vu, except I'm the one that said it. Using our own war on poverty, how much money have we given to the poor in this country, and we still have the same percentages of poor people -- and we're never supposed to examine the results, right? Only the good intentions of the givers!

    And, of course, the givers are us. Our back pockets are looted by our own government, and the money is redistributed -- and as Mr. Brooks is saying here, there is no upside to this. "In the recent anthology 'What Works in Development?,' a group of economists try to sort out what we've learned. The picture is grim. There are no policy levers that consistently correlate to increased growth. There is nearly zero correlation between how a developing economy does one decade and how it does the next. There is no consistently proven way to reduce corruption. Even improving governing ins utions doesn't seem to produce the expected results. ... . More than 10,000 organizations perform missions of this sort in Haiti. ...

    "The second hard truth is that micro-aid is vital but insufficient. Given the failures of macrodevelopment, aid organizations often focus on microprojects. So we have "more than 10,000 organizations perform[ing] missions of this sort in Haiti." It's exactly what I said: We've got charities on the ground 24/7, 365 in Haiti. By some estimates, Haiti has more nongovernmental organizations per capita than any other place on earth. They are doing the Lord's work, especially these days, but even a blizzard of these efforts does not seem to add up to comprehensive change. Third, it is time to put the thorny issue of culture at the center of efforts to tackle global poverty. Why is Haiti so poor? Well, it has a history of oppression, slavery and colonialism." Yeeeees, all the things we pointed out this week: Dictatorships! "But so does Barbados, and Barbados is doing pretty well.

    "Haiti has endured ruthless dictators, corruption and foreign invasions. But so has the Dominican Republic, and the D.R. is in much better shape. Haiti and the Dominican Republic share the same island and the same basic environment, yet the border between the two societies offers one of the starkest contrasts on earth — with trees and progress on one side, and deforestation and poverty and early death on the other. "As Lawrence E. Harrison explained in his book 'The Central Liberal Truth,' Haiti, like most of the world's poorest nations, suffers from a complex web of progress-resistant cultural influences. There is the influence of the voodoo religion, which spreads the message that life is capricious and planning futile. There are high levels of social mistrust. Responsibility is often not internalized."

    "Child-rearing practices often involve neglect in the early years and harsh retribution when kids hit 9 or 10. ... In this country, we first tried to tackle poverty by throwing money at it, just as we did abroad. Then we tried microcommunity efforts, just as we did abroad. But the programs that really work involve intrusive paternalism. These programs, like the Harlem Children's Zone and the No Excuses schools, are led by people who figure they don't understand all the factors that have contributed to poverty, but they don't care. They are going to replace parts of the local culture with a highly demanding, highly intensive culture of achievement -- involving everything from new child-rearing practices to stricter schools to better job performance," and none and none of these programs are sponsored by government and certainly not by liberal government.

    So the things that end poverty are cultural, and they start bottom-up, and they're done by citizens and real people who can't take it anymore. Throwing money at it accomplishes nothing! It's been demonstrated all across the world, but most near to us it's been demonstrated in Haiti. I mention all this as a rebuttal to all of the feigned outrage at me, the lying note that I urged people not to give to charity for Haiti. Nobody in their right mind would ever believe that about me or anybody else, for that matter. However, I did say find some way to do it other than giving it to Obama, 'cause I know he's going to eliminate the charitable deduction. He wants to wipe out individual charitable giving. He wants the government to be the go-to person for all charities. That's the only reason you wipe out the deduction for charitable contributions.




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    RUSH: I predicted it yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, that it wouldn't be long before the Drive-By Media, the State-Controlled Media started praising Obama for doing a much better job responding to Haiti and the earthquake than Bush did in Katrina and right here it is, by Ben Feller at the AP, very deep analysis here, "Obama Heeding Lessons of Katrina -- This is what President Barack Obama wants people to think about the U.S. reaction to the catastrophe in Haiti: 'swift, coordinated and aggressive.' He promised that stellar response in his first comments about the earthquake on Wednesday, then repeated it twice on Thursday. In other words, this will not be Hurricane Katrina." Sorry, folks, it already is. It's worse. The aid hasn't yet been distributed. Seventy-two hours they said, by the way, they're lying.

    Seventy-two hours Bush dithered, didn't do anything, it's been 72 hours. If you were watching Sky News, I was watching Sky News streaming video, it is an utter catastrophe. Sky News is discussing Haiti as utter pandemonium. Sky News is showing people screaming at the top of the hour: "We need help! We're getting nothing! We're going to die." People were not even buried under concrete in New Orleans. Seventy-two hours is the benchmark. If they're going to say Bush dithered for 72 hours, Obama certainly has made a lot of speeches, he's made a lot of comments and we've seen pictures of airplanes landing and so forth. We've seen a lot of pictures of the media standing around down there but in terms of the aid being distributed, you can't tell that it's happened yet, not that it won't, but I'm just saying keep this in context here. They're building a case that Bush screwed around and dithered, and Obama is on the case. "In other words," this is AP, "this will not be Hurricane Katrina. Obama is determined to show that the United States, even consumed with its own troubles, can get this right. And that he can, too.

    "The world is watching because of the expectations that come with being a rich, powerful democracy that is supposed to look out for its neighbors. And because the stain of Katrina is not gone. 'This is one of those moments that calls out for American leadership,' said Obama, who can add a humanitarian crisis to his first-year tests in office. There are huge contrasts between Katrina, the most destructive natural disaster in U.S. history, and the sorrowful scene unfolding in Haiti. One was a hurricane on U.S. soil that killed 1,800 people across the Gulf Coast; the other was an earthquake hundreds of miles away that may have killed 50,000 people. Yet as the wrenching images come in of people clinging to wreckage, of bodies piling up on the street, the comparisons are inevitable. The botched federal response to Katrina in 2005 became the standard by which emergency responses are measured, and presidents are held accountable."

    I predicted this. Well, the lie that the federal response to Katrina was botched has certainly become the standard, and it is a lie. The federal response to Katrina was not botched. In fact, the federal response, especially from the military, was spectacular, and this is the key, once the local Democrats let them in. Once Kathleen Blanco and once School Bus Nagin let them in, the federal response was great. "'The United States is seen in the world as the first responder to this kind of humanitarian crisis, and it has echoes - inappropriate echoes, to be sure - of Hurricane Katrina,' said Paul Light, a professor of public service at New York University. 'Can we get there fast enough? There's a risk there for the president.'" Oh. World's policeman is bad but the world's EMT, that's good. Yeah, we can be the world's first responders. Oh, yeah, it's great to be the world's EMT. It's bad to be the world's cop.

    "Obama has responded with urgency, and the White House has tried to make sure that people know it." That sounds like politicizing this to me. "The president has dispatched ships, soldiers, Marines and loads of other assets to the reeling Caribbean nation. He has pledged $100 million for relief efforts now and promised that that number will grow." One hundred million of tax money. We don't have the money so we're borrowing it or printing it. You're going to pay for it, your kids or grandkids someday down the line are going to pay for it. So you're donating to the government. Here, folks, let me expand on this. You may have forgotten that President Obama eventually -- he said this -- wants to eliminate all tax deductions for charitable contributions. Do you remember this? Do you know why? He wants the government to be the sole provider of charity. He wants the government to be seen by people as their lifeline, their primary means of existence. If you eliminate the tax deductibility of donations to charity you're not gonna give to charity as much. You'll have your pet causes, the ones you really care about, and you'll give, but charitable giving will decline precipitously. The government will take over.

    And in this context is why I suggested many days ago that if you're going to give, you already have in the form of income tax. You want to make additional donations, do it with other charities already on the ground. Even David Brooks today has a piece in the New York Times essentially saying the same thing I said, and also pointing out that we've given more aid to Haiti over the years than any other country in our hemisphere and it hasn't mattered. Just as I said about Africa, the local African leaders say stop the aid, it's re ing our progress. So President Obama was quick to claim that it cost US taxpayers a billion dollars for every thousand soldiers sent to Afghanistan. Remember that? And he has yet to mention how much it cost to send a soldier to Haiti. In fact, it didn't even matter to him. But it was a factor in sending soldiers to Afghanistan. That's about US national security. This is about domestic US politics. Haiti is about domestic US politics in addition to the humanitarian effort that is behind this.

    Of course we are not suggesting that we shouldn't send soldiers to Haiti. Do not misunderstand. But why is there no concern about the cost from the White House when there was so much concern about Afghanistan? After all, isn't the job of the US military first and foremost to protect the national security interests of the United States? No, it's not. The US military is now Meals on Wheels. It always is with Democrat presidents. Back to the AP story: "He has positioned the United States as a coalition-building leader - the United Nations itself has been rocked by the collapse of its headquarters in Haiti. He has pleaded for donations from his old campaign list of supporters, more than 13 million strong." They really got mad at me in the Drive-Bys for suggesting that if you donate to WhiteHouse.gov you're going to end up on a mailing list. Well, they're already sending out requests to an existing mailing list that you'll be added to.

    Like most Americans, we have somehow ended up on several of Obama's e-mail lists. I'm on a bunch of them as show prep and I haven't received anything from him or any of his myriad organizations about Haiti, yet. At any rate, I want to go through a list of headlines about Haiti and ask, "Is this really different than Hurricane Katrina?"


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    RUSH: So the AP has its big story out saying presidents can't avoid making things like this political. But of course if I say something about it that Obama's making it political, I get ripped to shreds. Every excuse in the world is being offered, every comparison: "Bush horrible. Bush dithering. Obama right in the mix, right on time! Obama knows how to do it. He's not going to be stay..." Well, let's just go through some of these headlines:

    "Despair, Panic Set in as Food, Water, and Medical Supplies are Delayed." "Death toll estimate at 50,000 to 100,000." "UN to Launch Haiti Emergency Appeal for $550 Million." "Anarchy! Who's Running the Country?" "Aristide Offers to Return." I predicted that, too. "US Military Mobilizes Thousands." "War zone: Gangs Do Battle in Streets with Machetes Over Food." "Rescuers Race Against Time." "Wire: Angry Haitians Block Roads with Corpses" "Horror: Corpses Impede Traffic, Pyres of Burning Tires Incinerate Cadavers." "Growing Desperation." "Survivors Face Diarrhea, Malaria Outbreaks Amid Lack of Clean Water." "Looting." "Earthquake in Pictures." Satellite Photos Before and After." "Actor Danny Glover Says Quake 'Response' For Screwing Up Climate Summit In Copenhagen."

    And at the top of the hour Sky News showed people screaming, "We need help! We're getting nothing. We're going to die, we're going to die!" Aren't these the same sort of hysterical headlines we saw after Katrina? Are they not? And the Katrina numbers were not nearly 50,000 to 100,000 dead. The US military did a marvelous job. We have a giant lie that has stuck about Bush and Hurricane Katrina, and Mr. Obama need not ever worry that such thing will happen to him because, as this AP story so clearly illustrates, the State-Controlled Media will be there every step of the way to make sure their readers and viewers understand that Obama's doing far better -- far, far, far better -- than Bush, who didn't care. Remember, they said Bush didn't care because there are a lot of black people in New Orleans. Obama himself even implied that at the time. Oh, yeah, folks. My memory is long on these matters. Now, here we are in the middle of a horrible disaster, and CNN is reporting that Colin Powell -- he finally speaks! -- is very impressed with the Obama initial response to Haiti earthquake.

    Why do we care if Colin Powell is impressed or not? What's newsworthy about that? But he's there. We've been waiting for him to speak up, and he's impressed. Colin Powell is really impressed by Obama's initial response. The fact that the same military and charities and alike are working like to help these poor people down there, just as they did in Katrina, is ignored. It's all about Obama. There are charities on the ground year 'round in Haiti trying to help. But now it's all about Obama. Yet we have report after report about how the aid can't get to where it's needed and how it will be days before it does, and it's right here in these headlines that I just shared with you: "Despair, Panic Set in as Food, Water, and Medical Supplies are Delayed." "Death toll estimate at 50,000 to 100,000." The aid can't get where it's needed because of issues like the gangs, piling up corpses, blocking travel on roads. It's not because of a lack of effort on the part of the first responders -- and there were lots of obstacles to getting the aid to New Orleans, too. I'm not trying to be controversial at all. I am simply making this point to highlight how the reporting is so, so different.


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    RUSH: As a man who's often accused of making everything racial, this is a CBS/AP dispatch. "The human suffering from Hurricane Katrina and the images of mostly black hurricane victims and looters have provoked new debates about tough public policy decisions, the nation's troubled racial history and the racial and economic barriers that still separate Americans. CBS Radio News reports that New Orleans City Councilman Oliver Thomas said people are too afraid of black people to go in and save them. He added that rumors of shootings and riots are making people afraid to take in people who are being portrayed as thugs and thieves."

    This is the story, one of the many, in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina saying that Bush didn't want to go in there because didn't want to help black people and people are afraid to go help black people.

    The US military was on the scene, and they were rescuing people, and we've got the video to prove it. Yet we have two clear contrasts of how the media reports both. You want me to go through those headlines again about Haiti? You want me to go through 'em again? Okay. Because we've got the story out there that Obama's doing wonderfully well. He's doing great, much better than Bush. "Despair, Panic Set in as Food, Water, and Medical Supplies are Delayed." "Death Toll Estimate at 50,000 to 100,000." "UN to Launch Haiti Emergency Appeal for $550 Million." "Anarchy! Who's Running the Country?" "Aristide Offers to Return." "US Military Mobilizes Thousands." "War zone: Gangs Do Battle in Streets with Machetes Over Food."

    "Rescuers Race Against Time." "Wire: Angry Haitians Block Roads with Corpses" "Horror: Corpses Impede Traffic, Pyres of Burning Tires Incinerate Cadavers." "Growing Desperation." "Survivors Face Diarrhea, Malaria Outbreaks Amid Lack of Clean Water." "Looting." "Earthquake in Pictures." Satellite Photos Before and After." "Actor Danny Glover Says Quake 'Response' For Screwing Up Climate Summit In Copenhagen." "Sky News Video: Pandemonium Just About Everywhere." Sky News at the Top of the Hour: People Screaming at the Top of Their Lungs, 'We need help! We are getting nothing. We are going to die.'" The Associated Press, if that's your sole source for news, would make you believe that the aid has arrived and it's being distributed. Lives are being saved. It's much, much differently than it was during Hurricane Katrina with George W. Bush.

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    Listen to this. You've heard me twice go through the headlines two days after the earthquake in Haiti. There are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and a 19th headline added. Here is the list of the headlines at the Drudge Report two days after Hurricane Katrina.

    "Navy ships and maritime rescue teams sent to region." "May have killed thousands;" "Bush views damage from Air Force One;" "White House to release oil from reserves," "Officials helpless against looters;" "Twenty-five thousand Superdome evacuees to be moved to Houston Astrodome;" "Carnival cruise lines asks about using ships." That's it. Two days after hurricane Katrina versus all this. I mention this, ladies and gentlemen, not to be critical of anybody who's trying to do anything in Haiti. I'm simply telling you you're being lied to once again by the State-Controlled Media. Katrina was botched. Haiti is not being botched. The aid has not yet gotten anywhere appreciably. There's no way to get it there. There are gangs; there are lootings; there are similar things. Which place do you think is more corrupt, New Orleans or Haiti? Have they already got me up on MSNBC talking about it? I figured that. (laughing) I can play these people like a Stradivarius. What are they saying? Oh, it's from two days ago. Oh, the light-skinned, dark skinned? They still don't get that I'm making fun of Harry Reid. I told you by the end of this week those comments are going to be mine. As far as the media is concerned I will be the author, I will be the one who spoke light-skinned, dark-skinned.


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    RUSH: All right. Back to Haiti from www.sphere.com: "Aid Delays Fuel Desperation in Quake-Battered Haiti." It appears that Obama is not getting aid to dying Haitians. Listen to this report: "Haiti seemed to hold its breath today, praying that enough aid would arrive before the fears of hundreds of thousands of hungry, injured earthquake refugees turned to violence. 'Every hour counts,' said John Holmes, the U.N. under-secretary-general for humanitarian affairs, who was dispatching search and rescue teams from New York. His colleague in Haiti, peacekeeping chief David Wimhurst, told The Associated Press that Haiti's survivors are 'slowly getting more angry and impatient.'

    "About $400 million worth of aid has been pledged so far from Asia, Europe and the Americas, with a quarter of that from the U.S. alone, and some 10,000 U.S. military personnel are slated for deployment there by Monday. But immediate efforts have been stymied by roads blocked by debris, a damaged seaport and an airport that turned away civilian aid planes for eight hours Thursday because of a lack of space and fuel. Two Red Cross planes managed to land today carrying experts -- engineers, doctors and specialists in reuniting families separated by disaster -- as well as 40 tons of mainly medical supplies. The load includes a kit that can cover the basic health needs of 10,000 people for three months, plus 3,000 body bags and a ton of chlorine for water treatment.

    "But help could not come quick enough for throngs of increasingly desperate survivors, who woke after a third straight night outdoors to find no one there to help them. Camps sprung up in city parks, with survivors building tents from tree branches. ... But tension is rising hourly as the wait lengthens for the wide-scale delivery of aid. ... American soldiers immediately took on a coordinating role at the airport upon arrival Thursday. Another 5,500 U.S. soldiers and Marines are expected by Monday, to provide security. ... 'Many people have not eaten since Tuesday. There are corpses everywhere, including pigtailed schoolgirls in their uniforms,' Pooja Bhatia wrote on Twitter. 'I was told at least five times that homeless peeps want to pray for me -- all of which gives me some hope that riots and violence might not happen. But it will depend greatly on when aid arrives.'"

    Again, to be clear, I'm responding to media reports. I'm not criticizing Obama. They did criticize Bush. They politicized Katrina, and they criticized Bush, and they ended up having lies cemented in the public mind. I am responding to media reports predicted by me yesterday that we would have stories -- and the AP was first out of the jumping chute -- stories praising Obama, getting aid in there much faster and much thoroughly, much better than Bush did. It's not there yet. It's pretty tough. The place is a disaster. The airport, they don't have enough fuel for planes to land to get outta there. The seaport's a mess.


    To the phones we go on Open Line Friday. We're going to start in Fresno, California, and Jerry, great to have you here, sir. o.

    CALLER: Hi, Rush. Mega dittos.

    RUSH: Thank you.

    CALLER: I'd like to know why the press isn't comparing this to the tsunami in Indonesia in 2004 where Bush -- I think he had a hospital ship there within about 48 hours, he had P-3s flying search-and-rescue missions immediately. We got $35 million pledged, committed almost immediately, another $350 million within five days. And we eventually I think committed almost $950 million to the damage in --

    RUSH: Well, it's an excellent point. The answer is the same answer, why didn't we get any good news coming out of Afghanistan in the early years, because it was working?

    CALLER: Exactly. Yeah. And the other thing, I think the Red Cross had been kind of depleted by the time Hurricane Katrina hit, and plus he didn't have Democrats blocking his way trying to get into Indonesia.

    RUSH: Exactly. Exactly right. That is my point, Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco blocked entry into New Orleans. It wasn't the hurricane, by the way, that did the damage, it was the levees bursting after the hurricane was gone that caused the floods and the levees, it was a combination of problems of local corruption and the US Army Corps of Engineers. The money was allocated; it was just not used for the levees.


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    RUSH: Here's Obama. He had a little something to say this afternoon right at one o'clock Eastern time on the earthquake in Haiti.

    OBAMA: The port continues to be closed and the roads are damaged, food is scarce, and so is water. It will take time to establish distribution points so that we can ensure that resources are delivered safely and effectively and in an orderly fashion. But I want the people of Haiti to know that we will do what it takes to save lives and to help them get back on their feet.

    RUSH: It sounds like two different messages to me. Sounds like, "Sorry, nothing's there yet, but we're going to do whatever it takes to save lives and help them get back on their feet." So President Obama asking Haitians for patience after the Associated Press has run a story saying Obama's doing a wonderful job, beating Bush by a long shot in terms of how Bush dealt with Katrina.

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    RUSH: Scott in Nokesville, Virginia. It's great to have you on the EIB Network, sir, o.

    CALLER: Yes, sir. This is a real honor for me.

    RUSH: Thank you, sir.

    CALLER: I have a feeling 'cause I don't think anyone should listen to General "Benedict" Powell anymore. The president could have dropped in the airborne units on Wednesday. They don't even need airports.

    RUSH: Good point. The 82nd Airborne could parachute in there.

    CALLER: And all their equipment and supplies.

    RUSH: I just saw that they're going in there now.

    CALLER: Oh. Well, I guess better late than never.

    RUSH: Benedict Powell, did you say? Did I hear that correctly?

    CALLER: Yes, sir.

    RUSH: As in Benedict Arnold?

    CALLER: Yes, sir, the same.

    RUSH: That's because of voting and endorsing Obama, you mean?

    CALLER: Yes, sir.

    RUSH: As the quintessential Republican we should all model ourselves after?

    CALLER: Well, just like Benedict Arnold was a hero until he didn't get enough attention and then he switched sides.

    RUSH: Oooh. That's exactly right, and an apt comparison.

    CALLER: And if I may: I wanted to thank you. I was in the honor guard in the nineties, and you got us through some really hard times with the Days Held Hhostage thing.

    RUSH: Yeah. I was tempted to reins ute that with the Obama election, but I thought, "Why plagiarize myself? Been there, done that."

    CALLER: (laughing) Right before we tighten up and march on to the White House we would say the day that you've mentioned.

    RUSH: (laughing) All right. Thanks for the call, sir. I appreciate it.


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    RUSH: Sad news out of Haiti, Port-au-Prince. This is Fox News: "Desperation in Haiti as Aid Is Snarled, Looters Roam -- Hundreds of U.S. troops touched down in earthquake-shattered Port-au-Prince overnight and were soon handing out food and water to stricken survivors, as relief groups struggled to deliver aid Friday and fears spread of unrest in Haiti's fourth day of desperation." But wait! But wait! But wait! The AP has a story today saying that Obama has brilliantly got aid in there much faster than Bush did after Katrina. The facts on the ground don't back it up.


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    Read the Background Material...

    • FOXNews: Desperation and Anger in Haiti as Aid Is Snarled
    • New York Times: The Underlying Tragedy in Haiti - David Brooks
    • ABC: Haiti Earthquake Victims Despair as Food, Water and Medical Relief Delayed
    • Reuters: Haiti death toll 50,000 to 100,000
    • Reuters: U.N. to Launch Haiti Emergency Appeal for $550 mln
    • Reuters: Who's Running Haiti? No One, Say the People
    • Reuters: U.S. Military Mobilizes Thousands for Haiti Relief
    • CBS: Gangs Armed With Machetes Loot Port-Au-Prince
    • UK Daily Mail: Haiti Earthquake: No food, No Water and Gutters Running with Blood
    • Reuters: Angry Haitians Block Roads with Corpses: Witness
    • TIME: Haiti Tries to Dig Out as Corpses Pile Up
    • Wall Street Journal: Clogged Airport, Ruined Seaport Delay Aid
    • Bloomberg: Haiti's Health System Crumbles Under Quake as Outbreaks Loom
    • CBS: Looting on Rise amid Haiti's Growing Desperation
    • UK Daily Mail: Haiti Earthquake in Pictures: The Unimaginable Horror Which has Torn a Country Apart
    • Wired: Satellite Photos of Haiti Before and After the Earthquake
    • FOXNews: Haiti Crisis Overshadows Political Debates
    • NewsMax: In Haiti, Tragedy, a Way of Life, Is Redefined

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    By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: January 15th, 2010



    You thought it had something to do with tectonic plates. But apparently not according to this dramatic new insight into the Haiti earthquake from the much-loved international star of Lethal Weapon, Lethal Weapon 2, Lethal Weapon 3, Lethal Weapon 4 and Predator 2. (Hat tip: Burgess, via Tim Blair)


    “What happened in Haiti could happen to anywhere in the Caribbean because all these island nations are in peril because of global warming.”

    “When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I’m saying? We have to act now!”



    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...-danny-glover/


    Seriously, this is getting...tiresome.



    ing Danny Glover, now??!

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    Haiti on List of Best Places for the Environment

    RUSH: By the way, one little note on Haiti. Haiti is always on the United Nations list as one of the best places for the environment. Back in 2001 -- and it hasn't changed much, I'm sure, 'cause Haiti has not improved. Back in 2001 from a World Wildlife Report, the three worst countries by ecological carbon footprint: UAE, Kuwait, United States. The best three countries, meaning they make the least carbon footprint, the least pollution: Haiti, Somalia, Afghanistan. Afghanistan being the best. In other words, this is what we should aspire to: Abject poverty saves the earth.

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    Mookie, GGA, Chump: Which sentence exactly do you have a problem with?

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    Mookie, GGA, Chump: Which sentence exactly do you have a problem with?
    I already posted it, genius.

    And comparing US delivery of aid to a foreign island 700 miles away without a functioning seaport with land-connected New Orleans for a disaster that gave at least a week of lead time is very, very stupid.

    I have a problem with that.

    Comparing Haiti to China is incredibly stupid. Apparently Rush and Brooks favor communism now.

    We've given over $7 billion to Israel in the form of economic aid since 1997. Israel is getting over $2 billion in total aid this year, about 20 time what Obama just pledged to Haiti for disaster relief. Is Rush against that too? Have they not developed?

    Stupid.

    I have a problem with that kind of stupidity.
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    Who is Rush Limbaugh?

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    Mookie, GGA, Chump: Which sentence exactly do you have a problem with?
    It appears that Obama is not getting aid to dying Haitians. Listen to this report:

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    Are you going to go after Brooks too?
    he lost me comparing China's economy to Haiti's

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    he lost me comparing China's economy to Haiti's
    Are you kidding?

    They're exactly the same!

    The only differences are a couple of billion dollars in US aid over the past decade or two and voodoo.

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    The AP has a story today saying that Obama has brilliantly got aid in there much faster than Bush did after Katrina. The facts on the ground don't back it up.
    Ah yes. Because Haiti is so much closer and more easily accessible than Louisiana. Therefore it's an apt comparison.

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    Ah yes. Because Haiti is so much closer and more easily accessible than Louisiana. Therefore it's an apt comparison.
    Are you kidding?

    They're exactly the same!

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    Seriously, this is getting...tiresome.



    ing Danny Glover, now??!
    Yep...

    I only live about 20 miles from that dumb .

    He lives in Lake Oswego, Oregon.

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    I already posted it, genius.

    And comparing US delivery of aid to a foreign island 700 miles away without a functioning seaport with land-connected New Orleans for a disaster that gave at least a week of lead time is very, very stupid.

    I have a problem with that.

    Comparing Haiti to China is incredibly stupid. Apparently Rush and Brooks favor communism now.

    We've given over $7 billion to Israel in the form of economic aid since 1997. Israel is getting over $2 billion in total aid this year, about 20 time what Obama just pledged to Haiti for disaster relief. Is Rush against that too? Have they not developed?

    Stupid.

    I have a problem with that kind of stupidity.
    Problem with financial aid to Haiti is that they haven't had a fuctional government for years. Uless we keep complete control of the distribution, the thugs, drug lords, etc. get the money.

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    Haiti on List of Best Places for the Environment

    RUSH: By the way, one little note on Haiti. Haiti is always on the United Nations list as one of the best places for the environment. Back in 2001 -- and it hasn't changed much, I'm sure, 'cause Haiti has not improved. Back in 2001 from a World Wildlife Report, the three worst countries by ecological carbon footprint: UAE, Kuwait, United States. The best three countries, meaning they make the least carbon footprint, the least pollution: Haiti, Somalia, Afghanistan. Afghanistan being the best. In other words, this is what we should aspire to: Abject poverty saves the earth.
    Hahaha... i don't agree with a lot of what he says... but POINT Rush on that one.

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    Problem with financial aid to Haiti is that they haven't had a fuctional government for years. Uless we keep complete control of the distribution, the thugs, drug lords, etc. get the money.
    All the more reason for a reasonably expected delay in response, correct? Further illuminating the differences between NOLA and Haiti.

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    Uless we keep complete control of the distribution
    Part of the reason we'll have 10k pairs of boots on the ground in addition to the peacekeepers already present. There is going to be fraud and waste in any giant relief undertaking such as this.

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