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    Marcus & Winehole: Is your version of conservatism against this kind of disaster relief aid?
    Marcus: Is america the rabbit or cat?

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    Problem with financial aid to Haiti is that they haven't had a fuctional government for years. Uless we keep complete control of the distribution, the thugs, drug lords, etc. get the money.
    All of it?

    No.

    O'Reilly was talking to an aid worker in Haiti and asked him three times if "the thugs" were taking his money. He said "no" every time.

    Besides, no one ever heard you complain about the $9 billion unaccounted for in Iraq the past seven years.

    Sometimes the strings attached to the aid can be the problem.

    Thirty years ago, Haiti raised nearly all the rice it needed. What happened?

    In 1986, after the expulsion of Haitian dictator Jean Claude “Baby Doc” Duvalier the International Monetary Fund (IMF) loaned Haiti $24.6 million in desperately needed funds (Baby Doc had raided the treasury on the way out). But, in order to get the IMF loan, Haiti was required to reduce tariff protections for their Haitian rice and other agricultural products and some industries to open up the country’s markets to compe ion from outside countries. The U.S. has by far the largest voice in decisions of the IMF.

    Doctor Paul Farmer was in Haiti then and saw what happened. “Within less than two years, it became impossible for Haitian farmers to compete with what they called ‘Miami rice.’ The whole local rice market in Haiti fell apart as cheap, U.S. subsidized rice, some of it in the form of ‘food aid,’ flooded the market. There was violence, ‘rice wars,’ and lives were lost.”
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2428600/posts

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    All of it?

    No.

    O'Reilly was talking to an aid worker in Haiti and asked him three times if " the thugs" were taking his money. He said "no" every time.

    Sometimes the strings attached to the aid can be the problem.



    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2428600/posts
    Chump: ultimately that is the same argument rush and brooks are saying. The International "help" isn't helping. I'm surprised a lib attacking subsidies. Then again, lacking convictions will do that to you.

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    Chump: ultimately that is the same argument rush and brooks are saying. The International "help" isn't helping. I'm surprised a lib attacking subsidies. Then again, lacking convictions will do that to you.
    I have never been for subsidies for US farmers, you idiot.

    You want Haitians to starve and die in the streets because they don't have food, water and bandages.

    And you want all aid to Iraq and Israel to be cut off as well since it never works.

    Good for you. That's real conviction. Feel good about that.

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    Chump: ultimately that is the same argument rush and brooks are saying. The International "help" isn't helping. I'm surprised a lib attacking subsidies. Then again, lacking convictions will do that to you.
    The international help isn't working?

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    And you want all aid to Iraq and Israel to be cut off as well since it never works.

    Good for you. That's real conviction. Feel good about that.
    He may think that, but he doesn't really want aid cut off to Israel. It's the conservatives de facto bribe to earn Jew votes in Florida. If they were responsible for cutting off Israel, there'd be to pay... and they know it.

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    He may think that, but he doesn't really want aid cut off to Israel. It's the conservatives de facto bribe to earn Jew votes in Florida. If they were responsible for cutting off Israel, there'd be to pay... and they know it.
    That's just it -- he doesn't think that.

    Lacking convictions will do that to him.

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    Chump: ultimately that is the same argument rush and brooks are saying. The International "help" isn't helping. I'm surprised a lib attacking subsidies. Then again, lacking convictions will do that to you.
    that makes no sense..

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    That's just it -- he doesn't think that.

    Lacking convictions will do that to him.
    Exactly.

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    I have never been for subsidies for US farmers, you idiot.

    You want Haitians to starve and die in the streets because they don't have food, water and bandages.

    And you want all aid to Iraq and Israel to be cut off as well since it never works.

    Good for you. That's real conviction. Feel good about that.
    How would I know what you are for, except to assume anything illogical and assinine is what you believe in? Genius, moron? What are you 12? Everytime you assume, you are wrong. Actually everytime you write something, you are wrong. So on the other hand are you for cutting off all aid? Is your absolute childish "that's not fair" mentality focus that way?

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    He may think that, but he doesn't really want aid cut off to Israel. It's the conservatives de facto bribe to earn Jew votes in Florida. If they were responsible for cutting off Israel, there'd be to pay... and they know it.
    I don't think we should cut off aid to Israel. Why do you think we should? FTR: I have never been to FL and am not Jewish.Do you have any facts to base that conspiracy theory? Yeah the huge Jewish conservative bloc is so powerful.

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    How would I know what you are for, except to assume anything illogical and assinine is what you believe in? Genius, moron? What are you 12? Everytime you assume, you are wrong. Actually everytime you write something, you are wrong. So on the other hand are you for cutting off all aid? Is your absolute childish "that's not fair" mentality focus that way?
    You made the wrong assumption, now you're mad.

    Nice "convictions."

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    I don't think we should cut off aid to Israel. Why do you think we should?
    International "help" isn't helping.
    Lacking convictions will do that to you.

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    Lacking convictions will do that to you.
    It was the similarities of what you wrote and what Rush and Brooks wrote.
    Read much?
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    Chump: ultimately that is the same argument rush and brooks are saying. The International "help" isn't helping. I'm surprised a lib attacking subsidies. Then again, lacking convictions will do that to you.

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    You made the wrong assumption, now you're mad.

    Nice "convictions."
    Way to not answer a question.

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    It was the similarities of what you wrote and what Rush and Brooks wrote.
    Read much?
    Yes. I noticed they both said stupid .

    As did you.

    Way to not answer a question.
    I never said I was for cutting off all aid.

    Way to make a completely wrong and stupid assumption. You do this very often. Why do you are you completely wrong and stupid so often?

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    I have never been to FL and am not Jewish.Do you have any facts to base that conspiracy theory? Yeah the huge Jewish conservative bloc is so powerful.
    U.S. Election 2000 - Florida - Swing State... I'm sure this will require greater clarification... as do most things for you.

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    U.S. Election 2000 - Florida - Swing State... I'm sure this will require greater clarification... as do most things for you.
    So I am not intelligent enough to grasp your conspiracy theory? If the jewish vote changed, it's not what the GOP did but what the DNC hasn't done. Time and time again they have shown they are willing to let the state of Israel vanquish all in the name of political correctness.

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    So I am not intelligent enough to grasp your conspiracy theory? If the jewish vote changed, it's not what the GOP did but what the DNC hasn't done. Time and time again they have shown they are willing to let the state of Israel vanquish all in the name of political correctness.
    Really?

    How, specifically, has the DNC shown that?

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    How many billions have been sent to haiti.

    Looks to me like most are still living in huts.



    Help those that help themselves.

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    How many billions have been sent to haiti.

    Looks to me like most are still living in huts.



    Help those that help themselves.
    Yes, charity is wasted on the needy.

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    BOT.....Craig Ferguson on Rush..


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    BOT.....Craig Ferguson on Rush..

    Thanks for this post, Dan. I love it!!

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    Ferguson gives that ball of hate too much credit. Still, funny suggestion.

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    Yes, charity is wasted on the needy.
    It's not charity when the govt. is involved.

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