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    I mean seriously? Is it the team? The style? The players? The coach? Him? A combo? All the above?

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    New system, needs the ball in his hands. I'm not worried. It's only January. When February comes around, RJ may surprisingly become the player we thought he was in the trade.

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    He's only good with a pass first pg or catching allies I think.

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    New system, needs the ball in his hands. I'm not worried. It's only January. When February comes around, RJ may surprisingly become the player we thought he was in the trade.
    i dont know if your being serious... but i laughed.

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    His point guard only creates for himself....

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    Well one thing I want to know is why is he shooting jumpers. Does anyone have access to the coaching staff? Is anyone telling him to drive the ball to the rack and try to draw fouls?

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    but in all seriousness, I really dont know what's up with RJ. I dont know if it's his intensity, but he doesn't play with a sense of urgency.

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    His point guard only creates for himself....
    I don't think Tony, Tim or Manu have much confidence in RJ. They all tried to get him going early in the season and now I think they don't feel like they can count on him so they are trying to do it themselves. I'd say they all like him off the court, but on the court it seems like they shy away from him in big moments. He's just had too many mental lapses to trust him when the game gets tight. Whether it be a turnover or a sloppy pass he just doesn't seem serious out there.

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    his name is not manu

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    needs the ball in his hands.
    Pretty much this.

    He grew accustomed to being the go-to guy. He was able to get his from the tip, and thrived with the confidence that his ty teammates in Milwaukee had in him. I really think it's a confidence thing. He doesn't feel like it's his place to try and take over the game and be the #1 option. And it's obvious that he can't get into a rhythm while being the 2nd/3rd/4th option.

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    his name is not manu
    Manu is playing like crap offensively. Are you happy now.

    Manu is still doing other stuff out there to try and make up for it. Is RJ?

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    I mean seriously? Is it the team? The style? The players? The coach? Him? A combo? All the above?
    All of the above. What your seeing is what your gonna get.

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    Offensively, I think he's a rhytm guy. He likes to run, and he needs to be involved in the offense. Not necessarily finish the plays, but get a touch, be involved. The whole spot up shooter thing is really not working for him.
    Defensively, the intensity is just not there. He had maybe an isolated block or good defense for stretches, but he just doesn't bring it every game. I really don't know what Pop was saying when we signed him up about his defense. Physically, he has the tools to be an elite defender, but he has never consistenly shown the interest.

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    All of the above. What your seeing is what your gonna get.
    Elaborate on RJ please. I have never seen you do it once. You just give really short answers not explaining anything.

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    Spurs ruined any chance they have of competing for another le by taking on Jefferson's bloated contract. He's a mediocre player - a fringe all-star, at best. Always will be.

    Hurts even more when you see that Tony's worn out from playing over the summer(yeah, TP's a moron) and that Manu's a s of his former self. TD's the only constant and, even then, he's playing alone out there because the dumbass FO apparently though a washed-up Dice and Bonner would be enough help for Tim. Knowing this FO, we'll probably trade Splitter to another division rival(maybe the Mavs this time) and end up signing another over the hill vet in the off-season.

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    Ron Artest at 5M or at 14M, hmmmmmmmmmmm

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    I don't think Tony, Tim or Manu have much confidence in RJ. They all tried to get him going early in the season and now I think they don't feel like they can count on him so they are trying to do it themselves. I'd say they all like him off the court, but on the court it seems like they shy away from him in big moments. He's just had too many mental lapses to trust him when the game gets tight. Whether it be a turnover or a sloppy pass he just doesn't seem serious out there.
    I guess every Spurs player should be looking in the mirror because they've ALL (Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili too) had mental lapses and thrown lazy, WTF-boneheaded-type passes when the game is on the line. It sure as isn't just Richard Jefferson. I've said on more than one occassion that Popovich needs to have advanced passing drills because his players throw some of the dumbest (and laziest) passes I've ever seen from a veteran team.

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    as a spot up shooter he is a waste. pop would probably be better off starting manu and having RJ on the bench so when he comes in the ball is in his hands at all times

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    RJ is disappointing but there's not much we can do.

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    People need to stop blaming other Spurs for why RJ isn't stepping up. He gets plenty of touches, but doesn't do enough with them. He plays soft, hesitant and doesn't move enough on offense. And even if he doesn't get touches through some stretches, he needs to contribute on the glass and defensively.

    In the beginning of the season, you could blame it on the other players not being used to him. But at some point, he needs to start doing something when he gets the ball, and cutting so that he is in better position to get the ball.

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    People need to stop blaming other Spurs for why RJ isn't stepping up. He gets plenty of touches, but doesn't do enough with them. He plays soft, hesitant and doesn't move enough on offense. And even if he doesn't get touches through some stretches, he needs to contribute on the glass and defensively.

    In the beginning of the season, you could blame it on the other players not being used to him. But at some point, he needs to start doing something when he gets the ball, and cutting so that he is in better position to get the ball.
    Exactly. His inconsistency in his play is all his own. As LJ mentioned tonight, he should have torched Randolph when he was matched up with him. He pretty much did nothing instead.

    We have seen the ability...he just needs to do it all the time. He is especially needed now with Parker unable to play at the level we are used to seeing.

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    People need to stop blaming other Spurs for why RJ isn't stepping up. He gets plenty of touches, but doesn't do enough with them. He plays soft, hesitant and doesn't move enough on offense. And even if he doesn't get touches through some stretches, he needs to contribute on the glass and defensively.

    In the beginning of the season, you could blame it on the other players not being used to him. But at some point, he needs to start doing something when he gets the ball, and cutting so that he is in better position to get the ball.
    RJ needs to play in a more uptempo offense. The spurs are too much standing around the perimeter and this does not play into RJs game.

    He is deadly on the break in the open court. The spurs need to forget about always having to get into a structured offense and have some fun looking for easy fastbreak points and run at times. This will open up Jeffersons game in all areas and the confidence will come back. Jefferson is good, the spurs style of play is not.

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    He's pretty much a streaky player.

    He'll have some great games then some bad.

    I don't even think Pop knows what he's gonna get from night to night.

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    Elaborate on RJ please. I have never seen you do it once. You just give really short answers not explaining anything.
    Because he's not worth talking about.

    RJ is not a clutch player. He's not going to make a team better unless the players around him are succeeding. This means when Tony, Manu, or TD struggle, RJ will be non existent.

    RJ's jump shot has lost its lust. He is very poor perimeter shooter and almost never hits a contested jump shot.

    His defense is terrible. Its almost like he doesn't care. It almost looks like laziness but its actually his lateral movement. He gets dominated against bigger and more athletic PF's.

    RJ was brought in here to put us over the top. He's done anything but.

    Against + .500 excluding Dallas, he is averaging 10.6 ppg on 33/104 = 32% from the field.
    I don't think they need him in games against teams under .500.

    He does a lot of standing around. When he gets the ball, instead of making an aggressive move to the basket, RJ passes the ball.

    His freethrow shooting has tanked this season. Its at an all time low at 70%. That is when he gets to the line. He's averaging 3.5 free throws a game which is the lowest since his rookie year.

    The bottomline is the spurs needed a player like stephen jackson and they got RJ instead. RJ is not the kind of impact player that is going to consistently deliver. RJ's 29, going on 33.

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    RJ simply isn't the player that he was when he was younger. He can't rebound, play defense, or work off the ball like he used too. Getting older and playing on New Jersey and Milwaukee teams where he was used a ball handler and scorer has changed his game. There's a reason his past two teams dumped him for expiring contracts. On a bad or mediocre team RJ can still be a decent player, but his current playing style doesn't suit a contender.

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