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Stop trying to trade your overpaid scrub for the best PF in the league
Hypothetical obviously...Cuban wouldn't do it..
But would you guys do this?
Bynum + fillers for Dirk?
Stop trying to trade your overpaid scrub for the best PF in the league
Nah. This trade isn't as lopsided as it seems though if the Mavs were trying to blow it up a 21 YO center wouldn't be a bad piece to net for Dirk.
This wouldn't be that good for Lakers either IMO they get a player 10 years older and lose interior defense although their offense would be monstrously efficient with Pau/Kobe/Dirk.
mavs do it. because they know dirk would return to dallas in FA next year.
not for the MLE
the fck?
Maybe if Gasol was the filler thrown in.
I don't see why the Lakers would make the trade. Dirk is obviously a great player but his age doesn't fit in with the Lakers.
Dirk's a 25/8 guy. Bynum's a 20/10 guy and possibly even a 25/10 guy in a few years.
The Lakers have more than they need to win a championship. By the time Kobe slows down, they can look to Bynum to keep the ball rolling.
Dirk unfortunately, is the same age as Kobe.
No way. Dirk is the only player doing anything for this team this year.
What??? Bynum's a 16/8 guy. Of course the Lakers would trade Bynum + crap for Nowitzki. Do you know how much of the interior that would open for Bryant and Gasol? Dirk's a first-ballot Hall of Famer who looks to have another couple of prime years left. He's still a year-in year-out MVP candidate, and the Lakers wouldn't give up an injury prone and erratic player like Bynum for the chance to have a top 5 penetrator, a top 5 post player, and a top 5 shooter together?
Dirk's obviously >> Bynum. However, his age doesn't make sense for the Lakers since he's Kobe's age. At age 22, Bynum has over a decade left in him.
Bynum's 16/8 with Pau but in almost 20 games without Pau, Bynum's averaging like 20/11. Bynum just doesn't get enough touches behind Kobe/Pau.
Problem with Dirk is the Lakers just don't need him. Even without Bynum the Lakers won the Championship.
Even without Dirk, the Lakers are probably one of the Championship favorites for the next 5 years. Adding Dirk is just overkill.
With Bynum, the Lakers can win now and keep on winning even when Kobe steps into the #2 and #3 role.
In fact, with Dwight having a down year and Yao out injured, you could say Bynum's the best "real" Center in the NBA right now.
I don't see why this makes sense for either team. Bynum will be good long term. The lakers don't need Dirk and Gasol, interior defense would suffer and there wouldn't be enough shots to go around. The mavs aren't selling out the guy who single handedly made their franchise relevant. If it's up to me, I either pull something out of my ass in order to compete presently, or I do this trade and start rebuilding for the future and let dirk be free to get his ring.
Bynum is a 20/10 player as the 2nd option. PROVEN. Dirk is not scoring 25 ing points with Kobe Bryant on his team.
Dirk trying to play center on defense?
Dirk never deserved his MVP award, just like Nash. Please tell me more about a meaningless popularity contest.
Dirk would be a spot-up shooter on this Lakers team. He needs the ball in his hands, isolating people from the wing or top of the key to be effective. Kobe already does that and does that much better. So the Lakers trade a 22 year old 20/10 center for a 31 year old spot up shooter while getting drastically worse on defense. If Dirk had real low-post game instead of just a fade-away and could defend the center position the trade would make sense. But he doesn't. And he's old as .
It makes perfect sense, because you do all you can to win while Kobe is in his prime. Bynum will still be a nice player in 4 years when Dirk and Kobe are done, but getting another Kobe (which you almost always need to win a le) isn't guaranteed, and surely won't happen right away.
Dirk's not Glenn Rice; a guy who is going to need double screens all night. He's a fast bigman who can murder opposing frontlines with the fouls he draws, and he can get his shot off over anyone. Dirk and Kobe on the pick and roll would be the most unguardable play in the NBA by far.
If Kobe was 3 years younger, maybe I could see keeping Bynum instead, but with an aging star you go all out to win now.
at the lakers fans who wouldn't to this trade.
Bynum is overrated, get over it.
The guy can't stay healthy, and with his size, strength, and soft touch he should be DOMINATING games night in and night out. He doesn't.
Bynum is a glorified scrub who has the luxury of playing with Kobe and Gasol.
Swap Bynum with Dirk and the rest of the league might as well just give up.
Calling a guy a 20/10 player just because he does it for a couple of weeks to begin the season is crazy.Bynum is a 20/10 player as the 2nd option. PROVEN. Dirk is not scoring 25 ing points with Kobe Bryant on his team.
Dirk trying to play center on defense?
Dirk never deserved his MVP award, just like Nash. Please tell me more about a meaningless popularity contest.
Dirk would be a spot-up shooter on this Lakers team. He needs the ball in his hands, isolating people from the wing or top of the key to be effective. Kobe already does that and does that much better. So the Lakers trade a 22 year old 20/10 center for a 31 year old spot up shooter while getting drastically worse on defense. If Dirk had real low-post game instead of just a fade-away and could defend the center position the trade would make sense. But he doesn't. And he's old as .
Are you re ed? It's called the first 6 years of Dirk's career, do a little research. Early in his career Dirk almost never operated in iso situations, he was always a spot up shooter and he was the best in the league at it. The pick and pop with Nash was unstoppable.
So it's safe to assume you really didn't watch basketball until the Gasol trade?
Dirk is not another Kobe. And the Lakers won the le with Bynum playing on a torn MCL. They can win it with him healthy. It doesn't make a lick of sense to trade a guy 10 years younger to make your interior defense worse. The Lakers do not need Dirk's offense. The Lakers need Bynum's height, length and size. Pau is not durable enough play 40 minutes a night at center.
Dirk is closer to a prime Glen Rice than he is to Kobe.
And the Kobe/Gasol pick and roll is way more effective than Dirk/Kobe pick and roll. Dirk would be great in a pick and pop with Kobe. But I'd rather the Lakers pound the ball inside than Dirk shooting 20 footers.
Kobe keeps saying he's going to play until he's 40. Do you doubt him? I wouldn't. Prime Bynum + 38 year old Kobe is better than 38 year old Kobe + no Prime Bynum.
Dirk and Josh Howard
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Bynum and Kobe
Bynum at 22 is about as good as Dirk was at 22. And Bynum has averaged that more than a couple weeks. Are you kidding me? Put Bynum on the Raptors with 15-16 shots pre game and he's easily posting Bosh scoring numbers.
Are you ing stupid? Nash/Dirk/Finley went absolutely nowhere in the playoffs. Yeah they sure were unstoppable despite having TWO MVPS!
Have you even watched a championship basketball team operate?
Dirk is right up there with Kobe. The only difference is Dirk's team sucks. He is the only guy doing anything and the team is embarrassing when he is on the bench. They are terribly dependent on him.
Keep telling yourself that Mavs fan.
Well the Mavericks would finally win a ring or three.
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