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    "I had a bad one in Memphis," Parker said. "My back was stiff. It was just one of those games. We had four games in five nights. Especially for me, I was trying to be very aggressive and try to redeem myself."

    Parker said he's been dealing with lingering back and knee issues throughout much of the season and it times it stiffens up like it did Saturday in Memphis. Then at other times, it feels just fine. Parker said he knew once he hit the court for warmups prior to the game that his back felt loose and he'd be able to put forth a solid performance.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20100118/SA...s=iref:nbahpt2
    Definitely needs to take this summer off.

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    This is more fatigue than any type of real injury. Pop really needs to consider resting him some. Perhaps if they plan to rest Duncan on a back to back then Parker can rest the game before/after.

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    Definitely needs to take this summer off.
    Parker is selfish & I don't think he wants to be a Spur much longer! He has his NBA rings, money, & a Bad ! Its time to pursue his FNT & his rappin career! Lol
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    You have got to be kidding me. Can the guy catch a break?

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    Parker is selfish & I don't think he wants to be a Spur much longer! He has his NBA rings, money, & a Bad ! Its time to pursue his FNT & his rappin career! Lol
    Didn't I read something recently about trying to raise the bar on this forum? Way to go...

    Back to the point, I think it's pretty clear that Parker will rest over next summer. As for this season it's going to be tough but he should definitely get some rest too. It's no use if he can play at (or near) his potential only 1 game out of 5.

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    Rest him please. I don't care about the seeding.

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    Parker is selfish & I don't think he wants to be a Spur much longer! He has his NBA rings, money, & a Bad ! Its time to pursue his FNT & his rappin career! Lol

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    Plus, we dont need another thread about TP having injury or not.

    Its discussed in more than 5 threads already. Its fatigue and his PF. And Pop keeps him playing because despite that, he still is able to play great.

    And yeah, he will rest this summer. So now drop the critics and give him some props for playing his ass off yesterday, for outplaying Paul and for winning the game.

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    You have got to be kidding me. Can the guy catch a break?
    Parker's the dumbass that decided to play for his ty national team over the summer. Reap what you sow.

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    Plus, we dont need another thread about TP having injury or not.

    Its discussed in more than 5 threads already. Its fatigue and his PF. And Pop keeps him playing because despite that, he still is able to play great.

    And yeah, he will rest this summer. So now drop the critics and give him some props for playing his ass off yesterday, for outplaying Paul and for winning the game.
    He seemed to have some extra motivation last night to upstage Chris Paul, but I'm not quite sure I'm buying this "some days it hurts, some days it doesn't" excuse for all the bad games.

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    Parker's the dumbass that decided to play for his ty national team over the summer. Reap what you sow.
    I can't help it if you about the past.

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    Parker's the dumbass that decided to play for his ty national team over the summer. Reap what you sow.
    You fail even more. Damn, the hate, its really about the 'French thing' isnt it?

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    I can't help it if you about the past.
    Says the guy that acts like the basketball gods placed a curse on Parker. Fact is that TP isn't a good enough athlete to play year round with no rest.

    You fail even more. Damn, the hate, its really about the 'French thing' isnt it?
    Huh? Has nothing to do with Parker's nationality. I was just as pissed off about Ginobili playing for Argentina. TP seems to value NT basketball over a chance at another NBA 'ship. Otherwise, he wouldn't be wasting Duncan's final years by wearing himself out in useless international compe ions. I'm not even a big fan of Dirk but at least he was smart enough to not play for Germany this year.

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    I can't help it if you about the past.
    I'm not a Parker hater, but I happen to think this NT business is bull . It's the past that shapes the present and future. You do in fact reap what you sow. I understand wanting to play for your national team, but your loyalties must lie with the hand that feeds you first. You don't pay someone an eight figure salary so he can leave for parts unknown during the offseason only to come back broken down. It's already cost us a shot at one ring (Manu 2 years ago), and it's about to cost us another.

    Love Parker as much as you want to, but these issues are on him and no one else.

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    For the love of God, rest the guy! Pop WTF are you doing?

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    I'm not a Parker hater, but I happen to think this NT business is bull . It's the past that shapes the present and future. You do in fact reap what you sow. I understand wanting to play for your national team, but your loyalties must lie with the hand that feeds you first. You don't pay someone an eight figure salary so he can leave for parts unknown during the offseason only to come back broken down. It's already cost us a shot at one ring (Manu 2 years ago), and it's about to cost us another.

    Love Parker as much as you want to, but these issues are on him and no one else.
    Just one week ago, I was just labelled a Parker hater, how quick things have changed. Whatever has happened already happened, there is really no need to about it. And this thing is fixable, it is not broken.

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    Just one week ago, I was just labelled a Parker hater, how quick things have changed. Whatever has happened already happened, there is really no need to about it. And this thing is fixable, it is not broken.
    Agreed.......Well, now all you have to do is convince your buddy Tony of the same. Perhaps we could enlist Eva's help, but the odds on that are slim. Just as slim as Tony coming around and seeing the light IMO.

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    I'm not a Parker hater, but I happen to think this NT business is bull . It's the past that shapes the present and future. You do in fact reap what you sow. I understand wanting to play for your national team, but your loyalties must lie with the hand that feeds you first. You don't pay someone an eight figure salary so he can leave for parts unknown during the offseason only to come back broken down. It's already cost us a shot at one ring (Manu 2 years ago), and it's about to cost us another.

    Love Parker as much as you want to, but these issues are on him and no one else.
    NT business is not bull , and the international compe ions are not worthless.And I totally mean the business part of it, not just the basketball one.

    Consider this - Parker is being paid by the Spurs to play for them during the NBA season, but he doesn't have any obligation or clause in his contract to forfeit his right to play for his NT. However, his 8-figure contract with the Spurs runs for another 2 years only, he'll play in the NBA for a few more, then what? He'll retire at 30-somehing and he will have to rely on his image to keep getting paid, to get commercial contracts, to keep his lifestyle. He's a public figure. Unlike Duncan, he won't retire on some sunny island.

    Which means he's got to take care of his public image, especially in France, since France is not really a basketball nation and his popularity is way worse compared to their football, tennis, etc stars. He needs to build on that, to alter people's perception, because after a few years he'll be as successful as the image he has created for himself, while on top.

    There's much more to participating in NT compe ions than the basketball side, there's a lot of long-term potential gain there, monetary included.

    Ditto for Manu, mostly.

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    Rest him please. I don't care about the seeding.
    Maybe we don't have to worry about seeding, but we do have to worry about just making the playoffs. The Spurs only lead the Utah Jazz by two games. As it stands, the Jazz would be the #9 seed in the West, so they would miss the playoffs. The Spurs can't afford to throw away games. I know it's been assumed that every Spurs team will easily make the playoffs due to SA's success over the last 10 years, but this year may be different. Finishing .500 won't cut it; the 8th seed in the West is probably going to win over 45 games this year.

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    NT business is not bull , and the international compe ions are not worthless.And I totally mean the business part of it, not just the basketball one.

    Consider this - Parker is being paid by the Spurs to play for them during the NBA season, but he doesn't have any obligation or clause in his contract to forfeit his right to play for his NT. However, his 8-figure contract with the Spurs runs for another 2 years only, he'll play in the NBA for a few more, then what? He'll retire at 30-somehing and he will have to rely on his image to keep getting paid, to get commercial contracts, to keep his lifestyle. He's a public figure. Unlike Duncan, he won't retire on some sunny island.

    Which means he's got to take care of his public image, especially in France, since France is not really a basketball nation and his popularity is way worse compared to their football, tennis, etc stars. He needs to build on that, to alter people's perception, because after a few years he'll be as successful as the image he has created for himself, while on top.

    There's much more to participating in NT compe ions than the basketball side, there's a lot of long-term potential gain there, monetary included.

    Ditto for Manu, mostly.
    Red- This has been beaten like a dead horse so I won't bother going into this except to say that Tony is making these decisions, so any injuries incurred are on him. Quite simple. The consequences of this are a moral argument and not one I'm inclined to take up on a chat board.

    Blue - It's very important to distinguish a WANT from a NEED. I'd argue that after making over 60 million in the NBA, he doesn't NEED to do much of anything, leaving us with what he WANTS to do. My main concern is that these WANTS come at the expense of the hand that feeds him. The only thing he NEEDS to do is remain healthy so that he can perform for his employer.
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    One the one hand, Parker has a stiff back, trouble at a knee, tendinitis at an ankle, and edema at the other ankle, a plantar fascistic and is very tired.

    On the other hand, Parker played his 5th game in 6 and a half day against NO and scored 25 points in 38 min.

    It doesn't fit together. As I said before, I think a big part of the problem about TP is mental and not physical. Most of these injuries shouldn't be more important than the ones he consistently plays through during his NBA career. He is just now in whining mode while he kept minor injuries for himself before.

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    NT business is not bull , and the international compe ions are not worthless.And I totally mean the business part of it, not just the basketball one.

    Consider this - Parker is being paid by the Spurs to play for them during the NBA season, but he doesn't have any obligation or clause in his contract to forfeit his right to play for his NT. However, his 8-figure contract with the Spurs runs for another 2 years only, he'll play in the NBA for a few more, then what? He'll retire at 30-somehing and he will have to rely on his image to keep getting paid, to get commercial contracts, to keep his lifestyle. He's a public figure. Unlike Duncan, he won't retire on some sunny island.

    Which means he's got to take care of his public image, especially in France, since France is not really a basketball nation and his popularity is way worse compared to their football, tennis, etc stars. He needs to build on that, to alter people's perception, because after a few years he'll be as successful as the image he has created for himself, while on top.

    There's much more to participating in NT compe ions than the basketball side, there's a lot of long-term potential gain there, monetary included.

    Ditto for Manu, mostly.
    Parker taking care of his public image in France has very little to do with him playing for the NT since NOBODY (more or less) cares about BB NT in France.
    Most of BB fans here are NBA oriented. Both our domestic league and NT are non factors.
    He is famous in France for being the little french guy who achieved his NBA dreams and he knows it better than anyone

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    One the one hand, Parker has a stiff back, trouble at a knee, tendinitis at an ankle, and edema at the other ankle, a plantar fascistic and is very tired.

    On the other hand, Parker played his 5th game in 6 and a half day against NO and scored 25 points in 38 min.

    It doesn't fit together. As I said before, I think a big part of the problem about TP is mental and not physical. Most of these injuries shouldn't be more important than the ones he consistently plays through during his NBA career. He is just now in whining mode while he kept minor injuries for himself before.
    i'm not sure about the mental problem but i agree he's in whining mode.
    From the few interviews i've read, it looks like Pop doesn't like it. He always says ''for whatever reasons'' when explaining TP's bad games

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    TP is being an emo. He's coming up with a new reason for his poor play everyday now. He made his decision to play for the FNT, sack up and live with the consequences. If you're healthy enough to play, there's no real reason for these daily excuses.

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    I dont think he really comes up with reasons and is whining alot, because if so he would have taken a step back and whined about his injuries.

    But he doesnt, he gives everything and is still working his ass off and its paying off.

    First some of you want players to not hold possible injuries for themselves because they are athletes, and then when they do not hold it for themselves but tell it, you see it as whining and you want them to not whine, to suck it up and keep going.

    Well TP told it, but he is still doing everything he can and still working his ass off, so I dont see it as him searching for an excuse or something.

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