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    It was hard for him to face the situation but now Manu is quite sure he will be a free agent by july or august and he will have to decide where to go.



    http://www.clarin.com/diario/2010/01...d-02123529.htm

    full intreview recorded: http://www.clarin.com/diario/2010/01...m-02123565.htm
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    Any translation plx...
    I want to know what he said

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    If he stays healthy he will be re-signed. I would be pretty shocked otherwise.

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    Any translation plx...
    I want to know what he said
    Too long to translate everything but the le should give you a pretty clear idea: "Right now I don't expect they will extend my contract"

    He also states "I thought my relationship with the Spurs was different. One can be a bit too romantic".

    On the other hand he says that "the Spurs haven't sent me any signal (one way or the other)" so it might be a public bid from Manu to draw attention to his situation and put some pressure on the Spurs via the fans reaction.

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    "I don't expect to be resigned anymore"



    "I'm pretty sure I'll be a free agent by july"

    Do they give you signs?
    No, there were no signs. Last time we talked about it was before I got injured last season. I'm already mentalized to sit with my wife in july and think about the future.

    You aren't any other Spur, you're kind of an idol there, does it hit you harder for that fact?
    At the beginning yes, I thought the relationship was different, I guess I'm a little bit too much of a romantic. But that was last year, now I realized that this is a bussiness and nobody gives away anything, now I get it.

    How do you see the team?
    We aren't playing as good as we should, we should have 5 or 6 more wins by now, let's hope we can improve.

    You won 3 'ships in 5 years, did you expect a let down of the team, do you think you're done as championship contenders?No, I don't. Is very tough to be an NBA champion, ha ha. The fact that we didn't win one in two years doesn't mean we're done, there are lots of great teams that have never won a championship, anything can happen: injuries, last second shots, other teams just beign better, you can't be too y and expect to win it every year.

    Are you different now as a team?
    We have more talent now so we're trying to play more freely but when is crunch time we try to rely on the same old things.

    Could it be that the NBA isn't as spectacular as it used to be?
    No, I still see great plays on every game.

    Like that dive you made to save the game?
    The ball was there and I just went for it, it was nothing special really.

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    Wow interesting stuff. It sounds like Manu's not coming back after this season.

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    Note: "I don't expect to be resigned anymore" means that he doesn't think that he will get resigned, not that he doesn't want to be resigned.

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    DAF86, are you saying Manu doesn't think he will be resigned by the Spurs at all? Even as a free agent?

    I thought he would be referring to not expecting to sign an extension.

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    DAF86, are you saying Manu doesn't think he will be resigned by the Spurs at all? Even as a free agent?

    I thought he would be referring to not expecting to sign an extension.
    I really don't know, reading the Spanish version left me with the same doubts, he definitely doesn't expect to get an extension but the article makes me think that his chances of remaining a Spur are slim too.

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    Oh, this is bad news to spurs and manu fans. I hope Manu just wanted for the FO of the spurs and other teams to notice. I understand the spurs' hesitation to sign him up, but i also understand Manu's need to be shown respect for his loyalty and all-out plays as a member of the spurs. I just wish the spurs will find a way to re-sign Manu. It would be very difficult to find a player like him in this league.

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    Oh, this is bad news to spurs and manu fans. I hope Manu just wanted for the FO of the spurs and other teams to notice. I understand the spurs' hesitation to sign him up, but i also understand Manu's need to be shown respect for his loyalty and all-out plays as a member of the spurs. I just wish the spurs will find a way to re-sign Manu. It would be very difficult to find a player like him in this league.

    It's all business. They don't give a about loyalty and respect. Did you see how Bowen was let go? Ok, he maybe didn't meant so much as manu did, but, not even a celebration or farewell moment in the stadium nothing, let's not even talk about him being resigned because of loyalty and respect. Its all business.

    Im interested in how this is going to end.

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    I really don't know, reading the Spanish version left me with the same doubts, he definitely doesn't expect to get an extension but the article makes me think that his chances of remaining a Spur are slim too.
    Manu must realize that the Spurs need to know two things. First, that he can remain healthy through the grind of the long NBA season. Second, that he will not risk that health by any further participation with his national team.

    If he could assure the team on the second matter, then perhaps an extension could be reached before the first matter is completely settled. I understood Manu's choice to go to Beijing, but I don't believe the Spurs will begin negotiations until he has either provided an assurance that his NT playing days are over or until he has returned from Turkey.

    At this point, I think that position is entirely reasonable. As many have pointed out in many past discussions, the Spurs assumed the risks associated with an international player when they signed the six year deal with him back in 2004. There is no reason for the team to take further risks of basketball injuries caused by non-NBA play. If there are to be negotiations before July 1st, Manu will have to take the first step.

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    Wow. I'm hoping that he just meant he isn't expecting his current contract to get extended. But the original Spanish transcript does make it sound like he's not coming back either.

    The Spurs FO must have been more pissed off than we thought over him playing during that one summer.

    If I remember correctly, they were really pressuring him to not play and even had an extension on the table. Then pulled it when he did play.

    That being said...I think Manu still brings good stuff the table, maybe different than a few years ago, but definitely a unique skillset and should be resigned (albeit at a lower dollar figure).

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    As I understand it, when he was a free agent back in 2004 (?), he wasn´t interested in signing with any other team.
    I know he visited Denver, but signing with any other team but the Spurs wasn´t in his mind really.
    He was emotionally attached to the city of San Antonio, and the Spurs, and he didn´t want to leave.

    This time, he will listen to all the offers seriously.

    He understands that this is a business, and that the Spurs FO don´t give a damn about "emotional attachement" (LOL)
    So he will do the same. He´ll sit with his wife and, with the offers on the table, decide where to go.

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    It's all business. They don't give a about loyalty and respect. Did you see how Bowen was let go? Ok, he maybe didn't meant so much as manu did, but, not even a celebration or farewell moment in the stadium nothing, let's not even talk about him being resigned because of loyalty and respect. Its all business.

    Im interested in how this is going to end.
    WTF are you talking about? Bowen will get his number retired in a couple of years, what farewell moment do you want? And his trade had absolutely nothing to do with a lack of loyalty and respect. He was let go because he was going to retire, which he did, which was the right decision for both parties. Oh and Bowen meant and still means every bit as much as Manu and Tony.

    Regarding Manu, I think he's trying to pressure the FO a bit, because they obviously haven't offered an extension yet. Pretty sure he'll stay a Spur though.

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    I think Bowen would have not retired yet if he wasn't traded. Many thought he would even come back to the spurs. But he didn't. My point is that being traded or let go, doesn't have anything to do with loyalty or respect. Players shouldn't be hoping on being resigned just because they think the team/organisation has to have respect and loyalty towards the player.

    That's naive, because its all about business, there is no place for respect and loyalty.

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    That's naive, because its all about business, there is no place for respect and loyalty.
    Reality is cold, huh?

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    I think Bowen would have not retired yet if he wasn't traded. Many thought he would even come back to the spurs. But he didn't. My point is that being traded or let go, doesn't have anything to do with loyalty or respect. Players shouldn't be hoping on being resigned just because they think the team/organisation has to have respect and loyalty towards the player.

    That's naive, because its all about business, there is no place for respect and loyalty.
    And now you sound like Fabbs.

    The Spurs have historically been pretty good about dealing with players. If they have to cut guys, they have done so quickly and quietly and even helped some of them out finding another team (if I remember correctly, Jason Hart/Raja Bell and a few others). Even this last summer, they cut that second round pick of theirs as soon as he requested it.

    Just because they have to pay attention to the business side and trade/cut/not resign players doesn't mean they disrespect them.

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    I think Bowen would have not retired yet if he wasn't traded. Many thought he would even come back to the spurs. But he didn't. My point is that being traded or let go, doesn't have anything to do with loyalty or respect. Players shouldn't be hoping on being resigned just because they think the team/organisation has to have respect and loyalty towards the player.

    That's naive, because its all about business, there is no place for respect and loyalty.
    I agree business is above loyalty most of the time, and it should be. However, Bowen's case is inappropriately used to showcase this.

    There is absolutely no indication from him or the Spurs, that he would have continued playing if he hadn't been traded. In fact, he had he chance to sign for any team that wanted hm, but didn't. These are facts, everything else is speculation. I can just as easly speculate that he got his last contract knowing that the partially guaranteed last year would be his retirement bonus of 2M and he has always meant to retire.

    Bottomline is, trading Bowen didn't mean the Spurs showed disrespect or lack of loyalty, not by any means.

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    No they can respect a player, but for a player to be hoping on resigning because the organisation should have respect for the player, is bull . There is no place for that.

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    WTF are you talking about? Bowen will get his number retired in a couple of years, what farewell moment do you want? And his trade had absolutely nothing to do with a lack of loyalty and respect. He was let go because he was going to retire, which he did, which was the right decision for both parties. Oh and Bowen meant and still means every bit as much as Manu and Tony.

    Regarding Manu, I think he's trying to pressure the FO a bit, because they obviously haven't offered an extension yet. Pretty sure he'll stay a Spur though.
    I agree with you, sir. IMO, Manu's just trying to catch the attention of the spurs FO. He said he'd love to retire as a member of the spurs team. If manu plays well this season, he'd surely be re-signed. But if he goes down due to injury, business is business, the spurs won't sign him.
    This could be a signal the spurs FO is sending to parker- if you play with the NT and you get injured, you risk not being resigned, imo.

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    At the beginning yes, I thought the relationship was different, I guess I'm a little bit too much of a romantic. But that was last year, now I realized that this is a bussiness and nobody gives away anything, now I get it.
    This can't be a serious statement from Manu. He has been in the NBA for a long time now and knows that the Spurs can't just give him money because they like him. This is pretty damn naive if it's true.

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    I agree business is above loyalty most of the time, and it should be. However, Bowen's case is inappropriately used to showcase this.

    There is absolutely no indication from him or the Spurs, that he would have continued playing if he hadn't been traded. In fact, he had he chance to sign for any team that wanted hm, but didn't. These are facts, everything else is speculation. I can just as easly speculate that he got his last contract knowing that the partially guaranteed last year would be his retirement bonus of 2M and he has always meant to retire.

    Bottomline is, trading Bowen didn't mean the Spurs showed disrespect or lack of loyalty, not by any means.
    I know, the organization did not show disrespect, because its a normal thing to do. That's why Bowen gets it and knows its just business. Im talking about players hoping on being resigned because of they think the organization should respect him or have loyalty.

    Im pointing this out, because some people and players are thinking and hoping that the player should be resigned, just because of the organization should have respect and loyalty towards the player. And that's naive.

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    No they can respect a player, but for a player to be hoping on resigning because the organisation should have respect for the player, is bull . There is no place for that.
    Ah, got your point. Thanks.

    Anyway, between TP and Manu we seem to be having an emo-fest in our backcourt.

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