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    LOL. I mean. Damn.

    "Conservatives" such as the OP see socialism in any foreign policy or humanitarian effort, but are otherwise cool with spending however many billions or trillions invading a country and then, gasp, engaging in nation-building.

    Put terrorism on it and it's pure Americana. Of course the Founding Fathers were all for Imperialism. Well, other than the empire they defeated and the governing mechanisms they put in place to prevent another empire.

    You're not a real "conservative" unless you smoke the Military-Industrial Complex's pole.

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    Off topic, but Oregon wines ing rock.

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    Unless it's leading a relief effort in the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere (and in your own backyard). Then let's worry about aid, nation-building, or whatever.

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    Then again, Thomas Jefferson didn't have his own radio show.

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    Off topic, but Oregon wines ing rock.
    The have vastly improved in the last decade or so. Quite comparable to California wines now. But nowhere near the European french wines that still are magnificent.

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    BTW, is Hilary Clinton's fat ass still blocking the tarmac in Port au Prince?
    No, I think she left. Probably left a deep imprint in that tarmac now that the planes have to avoid.

    I was complaining about Bill Clinton going back. I think it was innapropriate for him and President Bush to go in the first place. They cannot really do anything unless they plan on getting their hands dirty. The security, leaving a large plane at the airport, etc, slowing down relief is my gripe. Then i was appauled when president Clinton stayed there. You know these aristiocrats park their planes while they are their, taking up needed space.

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    Wanna know how to kill the momentum from the GOP wins in Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts(!)? Harp on Haiti as some kind of sneaky socialist project.

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    You know these aristiocrats park their planes while they are their, taking up needed space.
    Hilary went down there on a C-130 full of disaster aid, dummy.

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    Had it been Gates he'd be jacking off right now.

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    If expressing that direct US disaster aid to Haiti is the correct political response is cheerleading, then I'm guilty as charged.

    It's the right ing thing to do, politically and morally. I couldn't give a about the political orientation of the other "cheerleaders".
    No Cryhavok in every instance will cheerlead the libs. Not just this subject. Also I never called you a liberal. I don't think you are a liberal. I think you are an idiot. I think you wake up every morning think "how can I be more pretentious than the day before?"

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    I mean, mother er. The moment it looks like the GOP has pulled its head from out of its ass, some "conservatives" decide to pick on aid to a bunch of poor black people. Are you re ed, mother ers? this, I'm going to see what grape juice I have downstairs (damn you WH).

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    Hilary went down there on a C-130 full of disaster aid, dummy.
    That's different. Have you seen me speak ill of her at all in this topic?

    Again, I was refering to Bill. I didn't know the le "president" fit her. Besides, I also said president Bush didn't need to be there too... Didn't I?

    My comment about leaving an imprint war refering to her "fat ass" that you used.

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    WHo is picking on aid to a bunch of poor black people?

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    I think you are an idiot.
    Coming from you, that's quite an honor. I can't think of a higher one in the category.

    I think you wake up every morning think "how can I be more pretentious than the day before?"
    Just being myself, chief. If it's not your cup of tea, feel free to ignore my posts. I won't miss you.

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    I think you are an idiot. I think you wake up every morning think "how can I be more pretentious than the day before?"
    You know WH, I think he has a point. I wouldn't call you an idiot though.

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    WHo is picking on aid to a bunch of poor black people?
    You. You resent "other people's money" being used for it.

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    You know WH, I think he has a point. I wouldn't call you an idiot though.
    I don't dumb myself down for this forum. Well, not very much, anyway. So sue me.

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    I find it pretty hypocritical for all the real conservatives to be against any kind of foreign policy which will create a better living; a more secure nation (us and theirs); fulfill our commitment to our enemies and allies; and create more jobs and an open market. Then be completely ok with an open check to aid a country. I am completely ok with helping the haitians. However what is our role? What are we going there for. I know you guys don't care about that, and that has alot to do with your detachment. You won't be going over there. Soldiers want to know this. To alot on here, there is no trade off. You will not spend your own money( having to buy generic and cut off cable to help the hatians for example). Your family will not have to worry if your unit is going there. You all are worse than people not doing anything because you think you are doing something.

    I thought the way we aided in Indonesia was a good role for us.

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    I don't dumb myself down for this forum. Well, not very much, anyway. So sue me.
    You are like joe biden. Takes forever and when done, you feel like you wasted your time.

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    I find it pretty hypocritical for all the real conservatives to be against any kind of foreign policy which will create a better living; a more secure nation (us and theirs); fulfill our commitment to our enemies and allies; and create more jobs and an open market. Then be completely ok with an open check to aid a country.
    You beg the question that our foreign policy is some kind of utopia that enhances our prosperity, security and free trade all at the same time, in the face of considerable evidence it doesn't, and then you prop up a strawman to improve the looks of your off the rack ideological cheerleading.

    A very typical SnC post.

    I am completely ok with helping the haitians.
    You express it oddly.

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    You are like joe biden. Takes forever and when done, you feel like you wasted your time.
    If you find reading too tiresome, please do something else.

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    Here we go, the president and his party are reeling from the elections over the last few months. Instead of using that expression of popular will after the last full year of ing about this administration, you decide to make an issue out of one of the few things this administration has done that is popular. It's like you ers aren't happy unless the GOP is out of power and we're staring at the Great Society II. Who gives a about one-thousandths of a percent of the federal budget?

    Or, throw the SOB an anvil, not a lifeline. Duh.

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    Are you re ed, mother ers?
    The posters still trying to make political hay out of humanitarian aid to Haiti probably aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

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    It's like you ers aren't happy unless the GOP is out of power and we're staring at the Great Society II.
    I get this feeling too. Yonivore is a good example of wishing for the worst to prove his own convictions. For a lot of so-called conservative posters, health care reform not passing would be a sort of disaster.

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