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Huh? Actually Marc has been Memphis' best overall player. Best adjusted +/- on the team and he's a much better defender than Z-Bo.
In every game Pau missed, he was more useless than Sasha Vujacic.
Pau doesn't deserve to be an All Star and he won't be.
Marc Gasol, just a matter of time before he's better than Pau and a perennial All Star himself.
Huh? Actually Marc has been Memphis' best overall player. Best adjusted +/- on the team and he's a much better defender than Z-Bo.
Collusion MY ASS
You are comparing a real center to a power forward. And of course he is better defender than Z-Bo. How many centers do we have in the West anyway? Stoudemire, Kaman, Bynum, and Marc himself? It is easy to get "recognition" with such weak compe ion for an all-star spot.
This.Collusion MY ASS
I think what hurts Amare is that he comes out every offseason and says he's going to concentrate on D and never follows through.
Amare isn't a center stupid. Tim Duncan has been a center most of his career though.
Face it. Marc Gasol is a good player.
He is on the ballot as a center, stupid, so technically he is. Or do you want to argue Channing Frye is a center. Who the said Marc Gasol is not a good player? Don't twist my words, 21_Cuckolds.Amare isn't a center stupid. Tim Duncan has been a center most of his career though.
Face it. Marc Gasol is a good player.
Ill say it again. The Lakers would be better off right now and going forward had they never made the trade. Yes, there would be no finals in 2008. Of course there would be no le last year. But going forward they would have Marc playing PF and could have used the Kwame package as a deal to get a all star caliber PG.Ironically, Marc Gasol is mentioned twice as a possible All Star yet his brother is a unanimous shut-out.
Who got ripped off in the Marc Gasol/Pau Gasol trade again?
All star PG, Kobe, Artest, Marc Gasol, Bynum > Fisher, Kobe, Artest, Pau Gasol, Bynum
Z-Bo first then Marc Gasol.
http://www.82games.com/0910/09PHO11.HTM#bypos
Amare playing significantly more PF than C. He was never a real center and shouldn't be on the C ballot.
Every single Spurs fan on this site before this season.
Collusion My ASS
I agree.
If the Lakers didn't make the trade, Kwame could have brought in a premier point guard.
And the Lakers would be the ones paying Marc Gasol $3 million for 15 points and 10 rebounds instead of $15 million to his much older brother for 2 points more.
Marc Gasol is a very good player, but he's the 4th best player on his team.
Agree. I think Laker fans are being ungrateful, nothing new here. Pau Gasol's W/S % is much more than Kobe's.
That's a very talented team. The Grizz would be a better team if Gasol was the #2 option instead of #4.
Disagree. He's a phenomenal passer, their best defender and 2nd best rebounder. And he's shooting .611%.
At least Brooks or Landry SHOULD get in...LOL Amare
He should at least be the #3 option. There are few things in basketball uglier than when Rudy decides to go into blackhole mode.
Amare is not a ing C, he's a forward, check it out everywhere
He does that mostly in response to fan and media pressure none of the other players I listed have to deal with. Nash on the contrary comes out and says he doesn't think his defense is the problem and people buy it.
Lakers didnt trade 15-10-2 Marc Gasol in the Pau deal... they traded a 2nd round Euro project Marc Gasol without much suspected upside.
I dont how some of you act like the Lakers gave up a proven 15-10-2 NBA Center.
I could show you numerous articles of the time that had Marcs upside slated a lot higher than "suspected" as I have many others here but there is no need wasting the time. Facts are that both the Lakers and Grizz thought enough of Marcs upside that Memphis demaded he be included and the Lakers almost balked because of it.
But you go on and believe what you wish.. it's not like facts influence you collusion proponents.
Marc Gasol was the MVP of his league. Many here saw the talents of Marc Gasol and knew he would be a great player and said so back then. Nobody believed them and could only think "collusion".
It's like Kobe, the #13th pick was traded by the Hornets for Vlade Divacs, a proven player.
The Lakers made out like Bandits although it didn't "seem" like it at the time but Jerry West knew he had gold.
With Marc Gasol a major piece in the Grizzlies rise, Chris Wallace is looking like a genius.
Hey, this is about making the All Star team. Point out to me where I said Hill, Barbosa, Richardson and Frye deserve to go. Nash does deserve to be an All Star.
I'll go one further: If I were the General Manager of a team and I could have my pick of either Landry or Amare, I'd take Landry.
If the light ever goes off over Amar'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''e's head and he becomes a two-way player, you can bump this thread. Amare is all about scoring, putting up stats and getting a contract. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but I just don't think he's a winner. And he'll never be a winner. Dirk is a winner. Landry is a winner. Amar'''''''''e reminds me of so many players from the nineties like Derrick Coleman that got paid outrageous sums of money to score and never became well-rounded players.
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