Rush 'meant' what he said about Haiti

[rjv]

the US has exploited haiti to the point that it was essentially an overseas plantation, so i think rush can shut his piehole and let some government assistance flow freely, and without question, to these people who were already living in catastrophic conditions before this exponentially greater disaster occurred.

[Winehole23]

@GGA: I didn't say you were. But you do seem to be partial to one party, and it comes across in your posts.

Like, for example, your embarrassing and rather threadbare defense of Obama's broken promise to televise the debate on health care reform and make it unprecedentedly transparent, when in fact he concocted a backroom deal with insurance and pharmaceutical interests behind closed doors, before the debate ever started in Congress.

[George Gervin's Afro]

@GGA: I didn't say you were. But you do seem to be partial to one party, and it comes across in your posts.

Like, for example, your embarrassing and rather threadbare defense of Obama's broken promise to televise the debate on health care reform and make it unprecedentedly transparent, when in fact he concocted a backroom deal with insurance and pharmaceutical interests behind closed doors, before the debate ever started in Congress.

I have stated more than once that I am not enamored with what Obama has done. I was going to vote for McCain until he picked palin as his sidekick so I haven't always been on Obama's side. My problem with many of the Obama haters on this board is there inability to act with any sense of intellectual integerity. Obama stated in the video posted that Clinton's problem in 93 was that the crafting of the bill was done in private. Congress , at least appeared, to debate and discuss the bill in public which is exactly what Obama said he would do. The other provisions you mentioned were made public after the fact (which does contradict Obama's pledge) however it does not make him a liar. Lying is the purposeful intent to decieve someone. Did Obama make those claims 1 yr prior to winning with the intent to decieve everyone if he did win? I don't think he did.

[Winehole23]

Lying is the purposeful intent to decieve someone. Did Obama make those claims 1 yr prior to winning with the intent to decieve everyone if he did win? I don't think he did.

As a US Senator and candidate for President last year, I guess Obama was still unfamiliar with the ins and outs of political process.

[George Gervin's Afro]

As a US Senator and candidate for President last year, I guess Obama was still unfamiliar with the ins and outs of political process.

or he could forsee the future. Which still doesn't make him a liar.

[Winehole23]

Reasonably, he could have foreseen that his promise was unrealistic, yes. JMO.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Reasonably, he could have foreseen that his promise was unrealistic, yes. JMO.

I will agree but , like all presidential candidates, he probably felt at the time he could shake things up from the status quo. I am disappointed that he has not even come close to shaking anything up.

[TeyshaBlue]

And the thread gets a little dumber. I didn't know that was possible. Congratulations, boutons.

Next we'll invade/take over Pakistan, because that country is just full of wealth waiting to be exploited.

No thread is too stupid for boutonsky to bring it down another level.

[TeyshaBlue]

I will agree but , like all presidential candidates, he probably felt at the time he could shake things up from the status quo. I am disappointed that he has not even come close to shaking anything up.

That makes at least two of us.

[boutons_deux]

Just watch what happens in Haiti,

see how long the US occupies Haiti,

and see what US and other countries go in to "help" the Haitians by limiting their capacity for self-support so they are forced to "buy rather than make", eg, their own food.

This happens anywhere corporations move in to poor countries. eg, Monsanto selling patented, sterile seeds that are Monsanto-insecticide-ready so the farmers have to buy their seeds from Monsanto every year, as has happened in Africa and India.

The US invasion of Haiti for "humanitarian" objectives is really an opportunity for a predatory corporate invasion.

[TeyshaBlue]

Just watch what happens in Haiti,

see how long the US occupies Haiti,

and see what US and other countries go in to "help" the Haitians by limiting their capacity for self-support so they are forced to "buy rather than make", eg, their own food.

This happens anywhere corporations move in to poor countries. eg, Monsanto selling patented, sterile seeds that are Monsanto-insecticide-ready so the farmers have to buy their seeds from Monsanto every year, as has happened in Africa and India.

The US invasion of Haiti for "humanitarian" objectives is really an opportunity for a predatory corporate invasion.

Newsflash: Haitians were already limited in their capacity for self-support.
Define "Occupation" before you go any further.

[coyotes_geek]

Just watch what happens in Haiti,

see how long the US occupies Haiti,

and see what US and other countries go in to "help" the Haitians by limiting their capacity for self-support so they are forced to "buy rather than make", eg, their own food.

This happens anywhere corporations move in to poor countries. eg, Monsanto selling patented, sterile seeds that are Monsanto-insecticide-ready so the farmers have to buy their seeds from Monsanto every year, as has happened in Africa and India.

The US invasion of Haiti for "humanitarian" objectives is really an opportunity for a predatory corporate invasion.

Haiti's GDP = $7 billion
Monsanto's annual revenues = $12 billion

" o, Barack? Monsanto here. Do you mind taking over Haiti for us? We think we can make a couple of bucks off of them."

"No problem Monsanto. I'll get right on that. Remeber, you and your corporate buddies will always have a friend in Barack Obama."

[spursncowboys]

My problem with Yoni is that he had no problem the Bush administration using 9/11 as a 'crisis not be wasted' to justify the war in Iraq.. and now he crticizes the dems for doing the same thing. I don't like people who are hypocrites..just like snc stating that he 'f*cking hates when people assume what he's thinking' yet he has no problem doing the same thing when it comes to posting about Obama and the democrats.. you can't have it both ways

would you consider this hypocrisy?

Can you use a specific time I assumed what they were thinking? Also an elected representative is a little different than people making false conclusions from my posts, continually.

[Winehole23]

You aren't Yoni, SnC.

[Winehole23]

It's not all about you here. lol.

[spursncowboys]

You aren't Yoni, SnC.

GGA
.just like snc stating that he 'f*cking hates when people assume what he's thinking' yet he has no problem doing the same thing when it comes to posting about Obama and the democrats.. you can't have it both ways

would you consider this hypocrisy?

[Winehole23]

Oh right. I appreciate the correction. Carry on.

[Winehole23]

Red Cross: great at raising money.

At doing stuff, not so much:

https://www.propublica.org/article/h...-built-6-homes