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    Guards Steve Nash (right) and Tony Parker easily make our all-time international team.

    These players gave NBA long-lasting international flavor
    Fran Blinebury
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    When international players first began showing up on NBA rosters several decades ago, the belief was that it wouldn't take long for them to have a major impact on the way basketball is viewed around the world.

    Now, as Tim Duncan joins Hakeem Olajuwon and Dirk Nowitzki in crossing the 20,000-point plateau in their careers, the truth is that foreign-born players have changed the face and the future of the league. There were 83 international players representing 36 different countries and territories on NBA rosters to open the 2009-10 season.

    With the annual All-Star Game approaching, this is a good time to put together an all-time all-star team of international players.

    First Team

    PF: Tim Duncan -- Virgin Islands

    NBA career: 1997-present.

    If not for Hurricane Hugo slamming into his native St. Croix, Duncan might have grown up and become the world's tallest Olympic swimmer. It was the NBA's good fortune that the Big Fundamental turned to basketball when the island's only Olympic-sized pool was destroyed. He's been nothing fancy, just clinically and ruthlessly efficient at both ends since arriving in San Antonio in 1997. Duncan has won two MVP trophies, four championships, three Finals MVPs and arguably established himself as the best power forward in history.

    SF: Dirk Nowitzki -- Germany

    NBA career: 1998-present

    He was the skinny kid with the blond hair and the incredible jumper when Nowitzki showed up at the Nike Hoop Summit in 1998 and sent a few scouts staggering out of the building shaking their heads in disbelief. Dallas swung the draft night deal of the 1990s, getting him with the ninth pick in the Draft in exchange for Robert Traylor. He's the best-shooting big man ever to play the game, a 7-footer with deadly touch from anywhere on the floor. He also averages more than eight rebounds per game. The 2006 MVP has lifted the Mavericks from laughingstock to perennial playoff contender.

    C: Hakeem Olajuwon -- Nigeria

    NBA career: 1985-2002

    When he made the jump from Africa to the University of Houston and then the NBA, it was said he was paving the way for the centers of the future. Truth is, there has never been anyone like him to come along since with the speed and the power and the skill at both ends of the floor. Often said to have the greatest footwork by any big man in history, Olajuwon was MVP in 1994, led the Houston Rockets to championships in 1994 and 1995, was a 12-time All-Star and six-time All-NBA first team selection. A two-time Defensive Player of the Year, Olajuwon is the all-time leader in blocked shots.

    PG: Steve Nash -- Canada

    NBA career: 1996-present

    Born in South Africa, Nash grew up in Victoria, B.C. learning the angles and intricacies of soccer from his father. The Suns made him a first-round Draft pick after a mid-level college career at Santa Clara, but they never would have let him go if they'd truly understood what they had. Then again, how do you explain Dallas let him go as a free agent in 2004 and breaking up the partnership with his buddy Dirk Nowitzki? He can control the ball and control a game as well as anyone in the NBA today. He's now a seven-time All-Star and three-time All-NBA first team pick.

    SG: Manu Ginobili -- Argentina

    NBA career: 2002-present

    Even the Spurs didn't know what they had when they made Ginobili a second-round Draft pick in 1999. Truth is, they weren't even sure how to spell his name. Of course, since arriving in San Antonio in 2003, everyone has learned to spell it "w-i-n-n-e-r." He's been the picante sauce on the Spurs plate, the e that often makes them too hot to handle. He attacks the basket and slings in the killer 3s with equal fearlessness and also makes the critical defensive plays. Tim Duncan is the foundation and Tony Parker is the quarterback, but Ginobili was the spark in three championship runs by the Spurs.

    Second Team

    PF: Pau Gasol -- Spain

    NBA career: 2001-present

    The third overall pick in the 2001 Draft who Memphis landed in a trade with Atlanta, Gasol helped take the Grizz to the playoffs three years in a row, but couldn't win a single postseason game and began to get a bad rap. His skills as a passer, low-post scorer, rebounder and defender are finally recognized in LA, where he was the missing piece that led to a pair of Finals trips and one NBA le.

    SF: Detlef Schrempf -- Germany

    NBA career: 1985-2001

    The No. 8 overall pick of the Dallas Mavericks in 1985, Schrempf didn't become a regular until he was traded to Indiana in 1989. He was named the Sixth Man of the year in 1990 and 1991 with the Pacers and made the first of his three NBA All-Star teams. An excellent 3-point shooter, he was also a solid rebounder (6.4 per game) and passer (3.4 assists) and was a key member of the Seattle team that lost in the 1996 NBA Finals to the Chicago Bulls.

    C: Dikembe Mutombo -- Democratic Republic of Congo

    NBA career: 1991-2009

    Regarded as one of the greatest post defenders of his era, many forget that Mutombo averaged 16.6 points and 12.3 rebounds in his rookie season (1991-92) season with the Denver Nuggets and was named to the All-Star team. He played for six different NBA teams and retired as the No. 2 shot-blocker of all-time behind Hakeem Olajuwon.

    PG: Tony Parker -- France

    NBA career: 2001-present.

    He was born in Belgium, but grew up in France. The 28th pick in the 2001 draft, Parker was only 19 years old when he joined the Spurs and quickly became coach Gregg Popovich's favorite whipping boy. One year later, he was also Popovich's starting point guard on the 2003 championship team and has since won two more. He's been a three-time choice to the West All-Star team and was MVP of the 2007 Finals.

    SG: Drazen Petrovic -- Croatia

    NBA career: 1989-1993.

    A third-round pick (60th overall) by the Portland Trail Blazers in 1986, Petrovic stayed in Europe to continue a legendary career with Real Madrid before joining the NBA in 1989. Traded a year later to New Jersey, he was blossoming as one of the league's all-time great shooters when he died in a car accident in 1993. He was posthumously enshrined in the Hall of Fame.

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    Nice lineups! I like that the Spurs are an more international team

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    good list

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    Not bad!

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    hakeem and duncan played for TEAM USA....not TEAM VIRGIAN ISLANDS AND TEAM NIGERIA, but TEAM USA. they should be off the list.

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    hakeem and duncan played for TEAM USA....not TEAM VIRGIAN ISLANDS AND TEAM NIGERIA, but TEAM USA. they should be off the list.
    The article really has little to do with which team they played for in the Olympics IMHO. It is undeniable that all of the players listed were born outside of the United States, hence the "international" label.

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    part of da mookie crew Nash2TimeMVp's Avatar
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    hakeem and duncan never played for an internatinonal team. they both played american collegiate and in the nba all domestic. i dont' really care where they were born. you could say they are international born american basketball players, but not international basketball players.

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    Duncan and Olajuwon international? Fail.

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    The article is clearly talking about foreign born players having impact in the league, not about their careers as international players. I happen to think they add alot of personality to the league as well.

    Props to the author of the article.

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    hakeem and duncan played for TEAM USA....not TEAM VIRGIAN ISLANDS AND TEAM NIGERIA, but TEAM USA. they should be off the list.
    Can't you even read a little tiny bit? It isnt about for which team they've played. It is about where they come from. The flavor

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    Please... The flavor? What international flavor did Duncan give? I seriously doubt when people hear Duncan they think "oh that international guy from the Virgin Islands".

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    Gave = past tense. These guys are still giving and will be for a while.

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    Please... The flavor? What international flavor did Duncan give? I seriously doubt when people hear Duncan they think "oh that international guy from the Virgin Islands".
    A bre Pero, It's just about the fact that they are foreign born players, thus some internationalization in the league.

    But still, what they give? Well, As Tjastal already mentioned above, I agree with that they give a lot of personality to the league.

    And about Duncan, well him being a foreign born, I think had a lot of influence on him, he is what he is because of it. Different thoughts, different values, not like 99% of the players of the league. That's a reason why its nice to have international players in the league. Something different. I dont know how to explain, but you'll know what I mean.

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    part of da mookie crew Nash2TimeMVp's Avatar
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    omfg....i can accept hakeem being international, but tim duncan.... COME ON. U.S virgin islands is U.S terriritory, official language is ENGLISH, CURRENCY IS U.S DOLLAR, the head of state is led by BARACK OBAMA................come on brihs

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    No I don't. Duncan played practically all his life in the US and he played for the US.
    Also, for example, best international player ever in the NBA is considered to be Dirk Nowitzki, not Tim Duncan. If Tim Duncan was really international he'd be considered as the best (or Olajuwon). Unless people think Dirk is better than both.

    Each person can have different thoughts and values, this doesn't necessarily have anything to do with international or not.

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    Nash2TimeMVp, go suck a somewhere else.

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    No I don't. Duncan played practically all his life in the US and he played for the US.
    Also, for example, best international player ever in the NBA is considered to be Dirk Nowitzki, not Tim Duncan. If Tim Duncan was really international he'd be considered as the best (or Olajuwon). Unless people think Dirk is better than both.

    Each person can have different thoughts and values, this doesn't necessarily have anything to do with international or not.
    I was pointing to the personality and touch of flavor.

    Anyway, well if virgin island is have to be seen as a different territory, is something to debate. I think it is. When our countries were in Yugoslavia, that didnt meant they are the same. So is virgin islands, even though its part of the USA, it isnt the same.

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    Nash2TimeMVp, go suck a somewhere else.
    hahhaah punked

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    Knew you were a troll, troll.

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    Anyway, well if virgin island is have to be seen as a different territory, is something to debate. I think it is. When our countries were in Yugoslavia, that didnt meant they are the same. So is virgin islands, even though its part of the USA, it isnt the same.
    There is no international to speak of because it was one country. You couldn't say oh that Slovenian guy is international, or that Macedonian guy is international. How could someone be international when we're all in the same country?
    Even if you'd see Virgin Islands as not being part of the US (a little funny), Duncan still studied in the US, played in the US and played for the US. For all intents and purposes Duncan is a US player, not international.

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    A bre Pero, It's just about the fact that they are foreign born players, thus some internationalization in the league.

    But still, what they give? Well, As Tjastal already mentioned above, I agree with that they give a lot of personality to the league.

    And about Duncan, well him being a foreign born, I think had a lot of influence on him, he is what he is because of it. Different thoughts, different values, not like 99% of the players of the league. That's a reason why its nice to have international players in the league. Something different. I dont know how to explain, but you'll know what I mean.
    Man, the only INTERnational player I care about tonight is Goran freaking Pandev!!!!!!!!!!

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    There is no international to speak of because it was one country. You couldn't say oh that Slovenian guy is international, or that Macedonian guy is international. How could someone be international when we're all in the same country?
    Even if you'd see Virgin Islands as not being part of the US (a little funny), Duncan still studied in the US, played in the US and played for the US. For all intents and purposes Duncan is a US player, not international.
    Yeah he did, but still he was born somewhere else, a place which is part of the usa, but I see it as different and many others do, because there were even talks on the self determination etc... Maybe duncan228 can tell us how he thinks about that, how he sees himself.

    As for yugoslavia, well yeah it was one country, a federation, but every nation was a different republic, so I don't and have never seen it as a whole or the same. Besides, the countries were even before they came into 1 federation all seperate en ies.

    Anyway, it doesnt matter really. I think it was a nice article and a of a lineup

    Ziveli

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    Man, the only INTERnational player I care about tonight is Goran freaking Pandev!!!!!!!!!!
    yeah Il Magnifico Macedone , he is doing quite well over there! Im glad he left Lazio and find himself a nice club.

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    hakeem and duncan never played for an internatinonal team. they both played american collegiate and in the nba all domestic. i dont' really care where they were born. you could say they are international born american basketball players, but not international basketball players.

    "the truth is that foreign-born players have changed the face and the future of the league"


    Again, the author clearly states the focus on where the players were born and not where they played the majority of their careers (collegiate or pro) and he considers (whether you agree with him or not is up to you) the Virgin Islands to be "foreign".

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