You guys asre basically saying we need Stephen Jackson back at the 3.
I'm a little tired of players SAYING they need to step it up. Unless they are morons, They all know the right things to say to the tough questions about their play.
I look at how hard Manu plays, throwing his body around like a berserk youngster and think: 'where is the heart in some of these guys, the passion for winning and hatred for losing?'
Wow if this was a family feud question I'd have struck out trying to guess it.
Out of 100 people surveyed, top 6 answers on the board: Why have the spurs not lived up to expectations in the 2009-2010 season?
#1 answer.. cuz they aren't playing like berserk youngsters!!
The thing is....Parker doesnt recognize that. TP still holds the ball and tries to do everything he did last year, even with his plantar fasciitis. RJ needs to touch the ball more in order to do something with it...
It Simple... Every Spurs Player has Played Awful At times this season. Im used to the spurs playing A game, and you know they are gonna Scrap, Fight and Battle Every Single Possesion to win that Game. I do Not See That This Year. This spurs Team is lazy, they take Plays off. You cannot Place All the Blame on RJ, he does deserve some of it, but not all.
I think we Have to many players who are comfortable in there Situation, and know that there Isnt anyone behind them to take there Job. I wish pop would Play Guys Like Hairston or Mahinmi. We all Saw Mahinmi get his One shot, And he Played with energy and fire. That Is something this team needs again. Let the young guys play, They have so much more to play for. They are fighting for a contract, and fighting to prove a point. All the other spurs players Are content and have nothing else to prove.
The biggest problem with RJ isn't what he averages, but that he doesn't bring his average every night. He'll score 25 when the Spurs win by 20 and he'll put up 3 when they lose by 6.
This guy is a soft ass dude, he plays like he doesn't care at all. I understand why Pop and RC traded for him since they sent scraps, but he just doesn't fit and kills defensive chemestry. Now most everyone on the team doesn't play defense worth a .
Jefferson sure does have a lot mental lapses on the defensived end. Coasting too often and lack of alertness after stoppage.
An RJ-Manu punch off the bench would be deadly, if that makes him pick his up.
Can't pass.
Can't play defense.
Mentally soft.
Low bb IQ.
There is nothing you can do about it, it's just th way he is.
I don't think this is a good sign.
If Jefferson was just coasting or doggin' it, without really knowing what he is doing wrong, then there would be more hope for him to figure it out and improve.
The fact that he realizes that he is not contributing enough, or being aggressive enough, and he is still actively unable to do anything about, only means that something is going to have to change if things are going to get any better. Maybe it's the system, or maybe it's his approach. My guess would be the latter, since it's up to RJ to bring it on defense every night and start scrapping like he gives a damn.
Either way, I'm glad to know he realizes it's a problem. Now he needs to stop talking about it and start doing something about it.
I also think RJ needs more touches and more responsibility on the offensive and defensive end. I think it's a confidence thing. As far as the rest of team, could it be possible that we got too many options? I mean if you are out there with a bunch of other scorers, you can get lazy. In years past we had our big 3 and everybody else was a worker bee on the offensive side, but everybody played D. Now it's more relaxed cause there are too many options and that carries over on D. I don't know that's one excuse.. I'm just tired of watching the same old game.. Spurs go up by dozen or more, Spurs get cold, the other team fights back, Spurs get down by 10, Spurs get it going but it's too late, they can't stop them. There needs to be more fire in them to bury the other team and never let up. KILLER INSTINCT!!!!!!!!
RJ needs to go. Sorry
Scraps as in a wing-DEFENDER (Bowen) a bigman had a high BB IQ along with a "jack of all trades" skill set (Oberto) and a guy who was solid rebounder and jumpshooter/post DEFENDER(Thomas). BTW mcdyess is averaging 5pt and 5rbs a game. Last season Thomas averaged 4pts 5rbs and was a solid post defender for the spurs night in night out. Oberto had a thing going with Duncan/Manu kinda like Blair. And Bowen would hit the corner 3 and play defense everynight even tho it was apparent he lost a step. RJ is a much better athlete and doesnt give near the same effort Bowen did on the defensive end. If we kept the same roster we might have a (slighty) worse record, but our defense would be alot better.
Pop and Dyess underachieving too
we still don't have solid bigmen next to Duncan. Blair is great but is still just a rookie. The biggest problem in the last 3 years still has not been taken care of
Agreed. In the Houston game he's leading a fast break with RJ to his right on the wing. TP completely ignores him and takes it to the hole. Even though he made it Nash or any other "pure " PG would have passed to the wingman rather thant take it himself. I just wish TP would get others involved more rahter than do it all himself. But that's his makeup and only he or Pop are going to change that IMO.
Manu would definitely get RJ the ball like he is doing with Blair. I though about this recently and think it's worth a shot.
So the starters would be:
TD
TP
Hill
Blair
Bogans
Bench:
Manu
RJ/Hairston/Finley
Dice/Theo/Ian
Mase
Bonner
If RJ comes off the bench, then we can trade the expiring contracts for a defensive SF that can start and is around the height of 6-7 instead of Bogans or Hill.
I predict Richard Jefferson is going to have a monster dunk tonight.
Exactly. I'd also like to add that to me he doesn't seem like a guy who is going to play a big role down the stretch in close games. He seems to simply disappear in those situations.
Jefferson is laughing all the way to the bank.
Everyone is underachieving except for the franchise player, but everyone is ting on RJ and his 14 million, if it was not for that 14 million, the Spurs will not be able to get him. When will Spurs fans be happy that they got an upgrade over Finley?
You gotta remember that most spurs fans on this site are spoiled little brats with just enough brain function to use a keyboard & mouse. Most of em act like Jefferson abducted Pop and held a gun to his head and demanded a 14 mil a year multi-year contract and Pop had to reluctantly give in.
Nothing could be furthur from the truth.
well he would be a complete imbecil if he didnt notice he is playing terrible ball, not attacking the basket with enough agression, shows no energy level at all while in the court, seems like not making enough effort to win...
I thought RJ was a great adition but who knows when is he going to showup...
There may be an additional facet to the RJ story that no one is mentioning.
RJ's $15 million salary, in light of his lackluster and dispassionate play (especially on D), may be negatively affecting team morale.
This could be a factor in the team's lack of defensive grit.
When one of the highest-paid players is not setting an example, the problem can trickle down. Call it the "reverse Duncan phenomenon" if you like. Duncan was always the best player on the team but he never acted like a prima donna. He always played hard on both ends and accepted even Pop's most ham-handed crticism. That good example affected the whole team and set a tone.
RJ's lack of grit and toughness, coming from a $15 million man, may be having a similar negative effect, especially on team defense.
We Spurs fans may be slow to recognize this because it has never been an issue on this team in the Duncan era. It was always the one thing that other NBA teams (but never the Spurs) had to worry about.
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