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    Nets May Have Pieces To Get Stoudemire

    Suns forward Amare Stoudemire hasn't denied the possibility of playing for the Nets and the lack of a contract extension in Phoenix has put the All-Star on the trade block.

    "There are some teams you may say no way (to). But I don't think the Nets are one of them," said Stoudemire, adding that he sees "potential" in the Nets.

    The Nets appear to have the pieces needed to deal for Stoudemire.

    Phoenix is said to be looking for a combination of young players, draft picks and salary cap relief. New Jersey can provide all of that.

    The Nets have 10 draft picks over the next three years and young players like Chris Douglas-Roberts, Courtney Lee, Yi Jianlian and Terrence Williams.

    Via New York Daily News

    http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...et_stoudemire/

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    #FreeGiuseppe BlackSwordsMan's Avatar
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    can spurs work a three way trade that sends jefferson to the nets for free?

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    33-49 Xylus's Avatar
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    I want draft picks, lots of draft picks.

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    can spurs work a three way trade that sends jefferson to the nets for free?
    you mean Richard Jefferson. I think Nets would take him back for free if they could, also I think Net fans would love to have Jefferson back if that's the one you mean. Jefferson unlike Kidd was loyal to the Nets

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    "There are some teams you may say no way (to). But I don't think the Nets are one of them," said Stoudemire, adding that he sees "potential" in the Nets.

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    If Nets could get Stoudemire I'd do it, actually I don't know if I would. I don't know if Nets should jump on a trade if they get a great on or wait out the storm

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    I don't think Amare helps them all that much. They need a physical, shot-blocking, big-rebounding power forward alongside Brook Lopez. As skilled as Lopez is, he isn't exactly Nate Thurmond defensively.

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    Adding Stoudemire instantly makes them a playoff team in the East.

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    not this year

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    Veteran JoeTait75's Avatar
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    Adding Stoudemire instantly makes them a playoff team in the East.
    Come on, now.

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    Well... yeah.

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    That's assuming Stoudemire starts the season with them next year, and that Devin Harris and Brook Lopez remain on the team. Also, the team has to be healthy. I think they'd be good enough to nab the 8th seed in the East, sure.

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    I see JayZ working here. He's probably got LeBron's "Approved" list, meaning guys LeBron has to have in place in order to sign with the Nets this summer. I don't think LeBron is scared of going to a rebuilt team like the Nets if he knows a couple of key people are in place.

    That list would include guys like...
    1. Bosh
    2. DWade
    3. Amare
    4. Chris Paul
    5. Dwight Howard
    6. Durant
    7. Derrick Rose

    Obviously not all the guys on this list are possible, but some are. Bosh and Amare will be free agents just like LeBron, but trades could be made for those guys prior to the deadline, and it's not inconceivable that Chris Paul could be dealt as well.

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    They'd be stupid to trade for Stoudemire. He's good enough that he'd take lottery balls from their shot at John Wall while being maybe a bad-case scenario for who they could pull with their capspace. I'd much rather leave the spot open for LeBron or Bosh and not give away any prospects, and then pick Amare up as Plan C if all else fails.

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    That's assuming Stoudemire starts the season with them next year, and that Devin Harris and Brook Lopez remain on the team. Also, the team has to be healthy. I think they'd be good enough to nab the 8th seed in the East, sure.
    New Jersey is the worst three-point shooting team and the worst team defensively in terms of opposing shooting percentage, in addition to being 3-100 or whatever they are. Amare doesn't help them in either area.

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    Lopez, Amare, LeBron, Devin Harris and John Wall.

    That would be pretty compelling.

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    Lopez, Amare, LeBron, Devin Harris and John Wall.

    That would be pretty compelling.
    You guys need to give up the LeBron-to-NJ thing. It isn't happening.

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    You guys need to give up the LeBron-to-NJ thing. It isn't happening.
    You don't think LeBron would go play with that lineup?

    Lopez
    Amare
    Devin Harris
    John Wall

    Jay Z, Sixth man

    I think that's his best option out of Cleveland.

    Cleveland has a chance at a ring this year, but next year, they have alot of personnel decisions to make with all their rentals.
    Last edited by Allanon; 01-26-2010 at 05:46 PM.

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    You guys need to give up the LeBron-to-NJ thing. It isn't happening.
    I am a Nets fan and I have to agree I don't see it happening, I wouldn't be mad if he came though

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    New Jersey is the worst three-point shooting team and the worst team defensively in terms of opposing shooting percentage, in addition to being 3-100 or whatever they are. Amare doesn't help them in either area.
    New Jersey is last in almost every conceivable category. There are several other areas that Stoudemire would improve over Yi. Rebounding, interior defense, FG%, and a go-to scorer.

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    You don't think LeBron would go play with that lineup?

    Lopez
    Amare
    Devin Harris
    John Wall

    I think that's his best option out of Cleveland.

    Cleveland has a chance at a ring this year, but next year, they have alot of personnel decisions to make with all their rentals.
    That lineup cannot in any way happen, unless the Suns are stupid enough to take the Nets' non-expiring contracts like Keyon Dooling ($3.8M), Kris Humphries ($3.2M), and Yi ($4.1M) in trade.

    Amare will cost $17.2M next year and LeBron $16.6M, assuming they both get max salaries. Then add another $4-$5M guaranteed for a pick no worse than #4. For that to work out, you'd need the cap to come in at over $65 million, which has absolutely zero chance of happening. Trading for Amare kills their offseason period; not just their shot at LeBron.

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    I am a Nets fan and I have to agree I don't see it happening, I wouldn't be mad if he came though
    orly?

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    That lineup cannot in any way happen, unless the Suns are stupid enough to take the Nets' non-expiring contracts like Keyon Dooling ($3.8M), Kris Humphries ($3.2M), and Yi ($4.1M) in trade.

    Amare will cost $17.2M next year and LeBron $16.6M, assuming they both get max salaries. Then add another $4-$5M guaranteed for a pick no worse than #4. For that to work out, you'd need the cap to come in at over $65 million, which has absolutely zero chance of happening. Trading for Amare kills their offseason period; not just their shot at LeBron.
    17+17 = $34 million in James and Amare

    Next year, the Nets are setup for $26 million guaranteed.

    All the Nets would have to do is trade off a guy like Yi to get under cap financially. Yi has a reasonable contract, I don't think it will be too hard to find buyers.

    Question really is to the Suns... is $arver looking to save money yet again or does he actually want some players he'll have to pay?

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    17+17 = $34 million in James and Amare

    Next year, the Nets are setup for $26 million guaranteed.

    All the Nets would have to do is trade off a guy like Yi to get under cap financially. Yi has a reasonable contract, I don't think it will be too hard to find buyers.

    Question really is to the Suns... is $arver looking to save money yet again or does he actually want some players he'll have to pay?
    Have you added 34 and 26 to see what they equal? Because it's higher than the current cap, which is guaranteed to come down this summer (probably significantly down, but certainly at least a million or two). Have you also forgot that John Wall will cost about $5 million which counts toward their cap number immediately after the draft and before any free agent can be signed? It's impossible.

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    Have you added 34 and 26 to see what they equal? Because it's higher than the current cap, which is guaranteed to come down this summer (probably significantly down, but certainly at least a million or two). Have you also forgot that John Wall will cost about $5 million which counts toward their cap number immediately after the draft and before any free agent can be signed? It's impossible.
    34+26=$60 million

    Salary cap ~$58 million give or take.

    Yi's about $3 million, they'll have to include $10 million or so to get Amare in trade.

    $26 million
    -$13 million

    $13 million base
    +$17 million Amare
    +$17 million LeBron
    +$5 million John Wall

    $52-56 million total committed give or take

    It's really up to Phoenix and what they want back. $arver's notoriously cheap so I wouldn't rule out Yi/Lee + expirings + draft picks?

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