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    If Donny Walsh approves, Antoni would surely make a trade for his little butt buddy. The reason I'm pissed is because Portland offered Phoenix a tempting package of young players this off season for Nash and they chose to extend him.
    Really? What was the trade offer from Portland?

    I think the only thing the Knicks have that they would give up is picks though. They are not getting rid of David Lee and he is their only really good player. Robinson is good sometimes, Gallinario is all right, Hughes has always been an under acheiver, Suns don't need a guy like Al Harrington. Who would you want in return from the Knicks?

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    Part of the role of GM is to make sure that fellow GM's don't benefit from your mistakes.

    no it's not. The role of the GM is to do what's best for the team, not what's best at minimizing their mistakes.

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    The Suns should build around Channing Frye. There's your superstar right there.

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    The Suns should build around Channing Frye. There's your superstar right there.
    He is solid big man. Thats it.

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    If Donny Walsh approves, Antoni would surely make a trade for his little butt buddy. The reason I'm pissed is because Portland offered Phoenix a tempting package of young players this off season for Nash and they chose to extend him.
    The Suns are never trading Nash to the Knicks dumbass. They don't have anything the Suns want besides David Lee.

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    Really? What was the trade offer from Portland?

    There were tons of rumors as to what the deal was, some of them involved Aldridge but I didn't believe those. If I had to guess they offered a deal involving Outlaw and Bayless, two players who would fill a lot of holes on the current Suns and would do what I want Kerr to do, just stockpile as many long, lanky, young athletes as possible.

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    The Suns are never trading Nash to the Knicks dumbass. They don't have anything the Suns want besides David Lee.

    Maybe you're Nash sack swinging re ed brain doesn't believe this but no other team in the NBA wants Nash.

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    Also, how are the Suns supposed to rebuild this season when they don't have any picks in the 2010 draft?

    Rebuilding isn't an over night process. I didn't want them to trade Nash so they'd suck and get a high draft pick, I wanted them to trade Nash because they wouldn't be able to rebuild as long as he is on the team and his value is only gonna shrink.

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    There were tons of rumors as to what the deal was, some of them involved Aldridge but I didn't believe those. If I had to guess they offered a deal involving Outlaw and Bayless, two players who would fill a lot of holes on the current Suns and would do what I want Kerr to do, just stockpile as many long, lanky, young athletes as possible.
    Yeah there is no way Blazers would trade Aldridge for him. I could see them trade Outlaw and Bayless. I don't really see why they wouldn't take that risk:

    PG: Nash
    SG: Roy
    SF: Webster
    PF: Aldridge
    C: Oden

    They probably wouldn't have gotten Andre Miller then so they could have got someone else...and their bench would be

    PG: Blake
    SG: Fernandaz
    SF: Howard
    PF: Batum
    C: Pryzbilla

    If it weren't for injuries this team would be really good.

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    But you're right that extending Nash was the right move. The Suns are currently the 8th seed but have more losses than the 11th seed, will have absolutely no cap room in the off season to improve, have no noticeable young talent other than Dragic, are only gonna be worse in 2011, and are not going to be in good position to rebuild for awhile because of Nash's extension.

    I guess all that's OK since OKC won't be getting a top 10 pick.

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    Yeah there is no way Blazers would trade Aldridge for him. I could see them trade Outlaw and Bayless. I don't really see why they wouldn't take that risk:

    PG: Nash
    SG: Roy
    SF: Webster
    PF: Aldridge
    C: Oden

    They probably wouldn't have gotten Andre Miller then so they could have got someone else...and their bench would be

    PG: Blake
    SG: Fernandaz
    SF: Howard
    PF: Batum
    C: Pryzbilla

    If it weren't for injuries this team would be really good.

    Yeah and this team would be able to show some promise

    Dragic
    Bayless
    Outlaw
    Amare
    Lopez

    With Dudley and Clark as two young players off the bench.

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    no it's not. The role of the GM is to do what's best for the team, not what's best at minimizing their mistakes.

    Really? Then I'm sure Kerr would be thrilled in explaining how getting rid of Kurt Thomas's contract could cost a top lottery pick. There are plenty of examples of GM's losing out on superstars because they didn't minimize the damage. For example, the Grizzlies lost out on the chance to draft Dwyane Wade all because of Stu Jackson's incompetence. No fan wants to be haunted by the fact that their favorite team could have had a certain player.

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    Really? Then I'm sure Kerr would be thrilled in explaining how getting rid of Kurt Thomas's contract could cost a top lottery pick. There are plenty of examples of GM's losing out on superstars because they didn't minimize the damage. For example, the Grizzlies lost out on the chance to draft Dwyane Wade all because of Stu Jackson's incompetence. No fan wants to be haunted by the fact that their favorite team could have had a certain player.

    Good job using Steve Kerr as an example of what a GM is supposed to do

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    Yeah and this team would be able to show some promise

    Dragic
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    Outlaw
    Amare
    Lopez

    With Dudley and Clark as two young players off the bench.
    Looking at your comments on J-Rich you will probably hate me for telling you that Jason would start over either Dragic or Bayless at SG.

    Either way that would be a nice young team. But I don't think you should dwell on what could of happened. Its just going to piss you off.

    Trust me I always think about how the Pistons could have won multiple championships if we drafted Melo over Darko. And it ticks me off every time.

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    Really? Then I'm sure Kerr would be thrilled in explaining how getting rid of Kurt Thomas's contract could cost a top lottery pick.

    I'm sure it'd be a lot easier to explain that than to explain why he made critical decisions that impact the Suns' future based on the fact he didn't want to look bad.

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    Looking at your comments on J-Rich you will probably hate me for telling you that Jason would start over either Dragic or Bayless at SG.

    Either way that would be a nice young team. But I don't think you should dwell on what could of happened. Its just going to piss you off.

    Trust me I always think about how the Pistons could have won multiple championships if we drafted Melo over Darko. And it ticks me off every time.

    Yes he would. I'm just pretending he doesn't exist.

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    Maybe you're Nash sack swinging re ed brain doesn't believe this but no other team in the NBA wants Nash.

    Okay drama queen. I wonder if your hate for Nash will disappear when he is eventually traded. Its ironic that you call me re ed and yet you say "no other team in the NBA wants Nash."

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    Okay drama queen. I wonder if your hate for Nash will disappear when he is eventually traded. Its ironic that you call me re ed and yet you say "no other team in the NBA wants Nash."

    Think about it. No team other than New York would really want Nash right now.

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    Can we trade Amare for Diaw since Diaw just pwned him AGAIN?!!

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    Can we trade Amare for Diaw since Diaw just pwned him AGAIN?!!

    Can we just kill J-Rich?

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    I'm sure it'd be a lot easier to explain that than to explain why he made critical decisions that impact the Suns' future based on the fact he didn't want to look bad.
    The problems start at the ownership level. Robert Sarver directed both D'Antoni and Kerr to get under the luxury tax. Other organizations knew this and were able to rip off the Suns. How good would the Suns be right now if they didn't give away Rajon Rondo?

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    Can we just kill J-Rich?
    We'd still have to pay his contract.

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    Can we just kill J-Rich?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYz-_AsTASY



    LeBron runs so damn fast on that play though. Just watch him.

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    The problems start at the ownership level. Robert Sarver directed both D'Antoni and Kerr to get under the luxury tax. Other organizations knew this and were able to rip off the Suns. How good would the Suns be right now if they didn't give away Rajon Rondo?

    I agree there but that's why Kerr wouldn't care so much. Most people know that Sarver was the biggest advocate of the KT trade, Antoni basically said go ahead, I never liked using KT to begin with, and Kerr just went along. Of all the things Kerr has ed up I don't blame him for that.

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    Think about it. No team other than New York would really want Nash right now.
    So the Cavs wouldn't give up Z along with picks for Nash?
    The Blazers wouldn't give an unhappy Andre Miller, Rudy Fernandez and Jerryd Bayless for Nash?

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