Wojnarowski: Spurs consider bidding for Stoudemire

[yavozerb]

I would even do this deal: Amare+hill for RJ+Dyess+Tiago

[ElNono]

Unfortunately, if this doesn't go down now, we'll have the crybabies (you know who you are) screaming how we should have gotten Amare for Manu when we had a chance (when we don't really know jack about the details).

[Chomag]

I agree that Bowen had a privileged body. I also think Manu will probably switch from being a full-on penetrator to more of a shooter and playmaker. While his shooting has been off this season so far, it's not something you lose with age. And we all know about his playmaking abilities. Again, as a seasoned vet next to peaking superstar, I think he's extremely valuable.

To me that is kind of putting Manu in a roll player position. Spurs can't win with that they need a big 3. So if Manu has regressed into that kind of roll we need a player step into a big 3 roll. I guess that was the reason why the RJ trade but we all know how well that has gone.

[hater]

Unfortunately, if this doesn't go down now, we'll have the crybabies (you know who you are) screaming how we should have gotten Amare for Manu when we had a chance (when we don't really know jack about the details).

and somehow they will ultimately blame international play for this deal not going down

[Gooshie]

1. Trade Manu, Bonner, and Splitter's rights for Amare.

2. Re-sign Amare at a reasonable price this summer (or use him in a sign-and trade for another big man)

3. Try and re-sign Manu with the MLE this summer. As good as Manu has been, no other team is going to offer him more than the MLE this summer. Also, by trading Splitter's rights, we wouldn't have to spend the MLE on him.

[ElNono]

To me that is kind of putting Manu in a roll player posistion. Spurs can't win with that they need a big 3. So if Manu has regresed into that kind of roll we need a player step into a bir 3 roll. I guess that was the reason why the RJ trade but we all know how well that has gone.

Well, that was exactly the reason, IMO. The brighter side is that even if Manu is not shooting well and Tony is hobbled, we're a scoring machine by all standards. We just can't get over the hump of losing a defensive monster in Bowen.

[Pero]

My biggest question, is why would the Suns do this deal. Splitter might never come the NBA, and draft pick they receive wouldn't be a lottery pick and Manu would be gone after this season. I'd honestly think they'd be able to get a better deal if they tried.

[Spursfanfromafar]

I don't know for you but, I, as a fan, and even if I think Manu has been quite bad this year, wouldn't trade Manu. I consider him as nearly untradable and that he should end his career in SA.

And I agree with you.

Wojnarowski is a damn serious source. He isn't in the Hoopsworld category, so this rumor could be legit. If Spurs are considering trading Manu for Stoudamire (who isn't that great), there is a huge gap between how I value Manu and how the FO values it.

Indeed. AW is a legit writer. But please re-read him. He makes it clear that the Spurs are trying to get Amar'e from the Suns, but he speculates on whether they would trade Manu + Hill for the same. Nowhere does he suggest that Manu + Hill is the offer that the Spurs are considering. So, I don't think that the FO is trading Manu for sure or even considering the same, from AW's piece.

[alchemist]

And I agree with you.



Indeed. AW is a legit writer. But please re-read him. He makes it clear that the Spurs are trying to get Amar'e from the Suns, but he speculates on whether they would trade Manu + Hill for the same. Nowhere does he suggest that Manu + Hill is the offer that the Spurs are considering. So, I don't think that the FO is trading Manu for sure or even considering the same, from AW's piece.

There's no way they take RJ, Manu is only piece that works + filler.

[cd98]

Amare had massive knee surgery and tends to miss the last half of seasons with injuries. He's a suspect defender and I don't know that he complements Tim. Too risky at this point in the season with the Spurs already behind schedule and the need to win now.

The Spurs need some defense and if they want to partner in this move to bring in a few defenders, then I'm all for it.

An Amare acquisition is an offseason consideration, not a midseason decision. If he's not good enough to vault the Suns into contention with Steve Nash at the helm, then he won't do much for San Antonio except keep us in mediocrity.

[koriwhat]

No manu and no gh3! that trade!

[hater]

take Nash from Amare and he will not look the same at all. this trade is not happening. book it.

[Buddy Holly]

Amare had massive knee surgery and tends to miss the last half of seasons with injuries. He's a suspect defender and I don't know that he complements Tim. Too risky at this point in the season with the Spurs already behind schedule and the need to win now.

Manu had surgery and tends to miss the last half of the season with injuries.

The Spurs need some defense and if they want to partner in this move to bring in a few defenders, then I'm all for it.

Who's to say Amare won't be a better defender with the Spurs and along side Duncan?

If he's not good enough to vault the Suns into contention with Steve Nash at the helm, then he won't do much for San Antonio except keep us in mediocrity.

Couldn't you say the same for Manu along side Duncan and Parker? We're really not contenders with Manu now and if we're not contenders with Amare then we lose nothing but we have a lot to gain with Amare if it works out.

[xtremesteven33]

Amare doesnt play defense cause he plays in a system where defense is not enforced. Amare still has potential to play good defense. He has great timing for blocks, he just needs patience and intensity. Timmy can definitely help him out there.

[Buddy Holly]

take Nash from Amare and he will not look the same at all.

He looked like a monster back when he played with crazy ass Marbury.

Since then he's added a nice jumper.

[benefactor]

Amare doesnt play defense cause he plays in a system where defense is not enforced. Amare still has potential to play good defense. He has great timing for blocks, he just needs patience and intensity. Timmy can definitely help him out there.

Jefferson has "potential" too. We see how well that is working out.

[xtremesteven33]

Jefferson has "potential" too. We see how well that is working out.

Jefferson is the softest player in the NBA also...

[DynastySpurs210]

I just cant imagine Manu aside with steve Nash, i dont know feels like manu gonna prove us wrong and become an AllStar next year.

[jbspurs]

Horrible idea.

Lets just get rid of our best pick and roll passer (Manu) for a pick and roll dunker.

And you know Tony doesn't pass like Nash can.

Not only that! Who's gonna pass to Blair on a pick and roll?

[benefactor]

Jefferson is the softest player in the NBA also...

But he was an above average defender in his NJ days. The thinking was that when he got to SA and into a system that stressed defense he would go back to it.

It's basically the same scenario with Amare, except he has never played defense. It's an awful lot of money to be playing guessing games with.

[My Fault]

Kinda late to this but from I understand Hill might be put in the package to get this done and if that's the case I say no way. I like what I see with Hill and he is only getting better so no way I give him up for a player likely to bounce after the season ends.

[elbamba]

We can trade crappy defense for ty defense

[tp2021]

It's an awful lot of money to be playing guessing games with.

Right now nobody knows that better than Mr. Peter Holt.

[G-Nob]

All this is mute if Rasheed wouldn't have gone to the dame C's.

[EricB]

All this is mute if Rasheed wouldn't have gone to the dame C's.

Uh celtics fans HATE Rasheed. He's stunk there royally. Read bill simmon's columns and he talks about their disdain for sheed...