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Trade tony instead of manu.
My opinion of Manu is that he will probably be my all-time favorite spur for as long as i live. With that said though I do agree that father time has crepped up on manu and he is primarily an outside shooter at this point in his career. He just doesn't have the first step he used to and cannot get to the hoop nearly as much. As much as I hate to say this but mason at sg in place of manu is not all that bad of replacement. I am curious to here why some of you think he should or should not be traded this season.
Trade tony instead of manu.
Dude, like.... seriously, could you not have used the 17 other threads talking about this right now?
Trade. since his game has not completely diminished, i thing that you could get a (some) good young quality player(s) in return.
Dude, seriously, this topic needs its own thread, not on page 20 of some other thread.
I think the Spurs need to explore what's out there before the trade deadline. It's the sensible thing to do, IMO.
It is looking more and more likely that Manu will not be here next season - especially with the way the season is going. I think that decision should be driven by what the Spurs can get for him in return.
I'm not completely against trading him. That said, the trade will have to be something that has actual future value.
When I read this kind of questions, my first reaction is:
Damn, I'm happy to just be a casual fan sitting behind his computer and not one of the FO guy who has to take some heart breaking decision.
If manu's gone for amare. Spurs might be a better team. But once playoffs come, at end of close games, who is gonna be the play maker??? amare?
truth is Manu is probably our only real playmaker.
To be honest, I also fully expect the Spurs to start conversations with his agent if they don't move him by the trade deadline and Manu is still healthy...
makes no sense.... why trade an expiring contract for an expiring contract, at the end of the year if the manu-amare trade goes through both teams will have nothing anyway (Coz losin manu and gettin this is not gettin us our 5th ring). At least if they traded Jefferson for amare then the suns have a player for the next 2 years (who'll prolly end up playing better in their system)...and the spurs can try to salvage whats left of hte season and the play off run with stat...
truth is that tim and tony are more clutch than manu for the past few years. 82 games.com is more than clear about that.If manu's gone for amare. Spurs might be a better team. But once playoffs come, at end of close games, who is gonna be the play maker??? amare?
truth is Manu is probably our only real playmaker.
i'd really hate to lose manu. but to think Amare isn't better than him, in RS or PO, is just insane.
what part of "playmaker" don't you get?
I can't think of a PnR guard on our team to combo with Amare that would be better than Manu. And thats with Manu fandom aside. One of the downsides of trading Manu for Amare is that they could be devastating alongside each other, and would offset Manu's poor shooting a bit by allowing his newer concentration on passing to get Amare lots of points (which in turn makes up for Manu's lack of scoring)...at least in theory.
trade him, he is a turnover machine and a liability
It's too bad that we have to resort to trading Manu because Jefferson is such a useless POS.
I was one of them who wouldn't mind Manu to be traded last summer. Well, maybe the time now has really come for him to go. I still don't mind him to go and get some solid player for him.
But I do think when possibly trading one of our players soon, manu shouldn't be the first option to let go, not right now.
Anyway, it will always be a shame, when such a player leaves, he has done so much for us and is a great player. A lot of Spurs fans would be feeling ty and sad if he left. That's f*cked up, but then again, its a business.
I am starting to think that it won't be the Spurs decision, but Manu's.
He is obviously playing with people that aren't ready for him, IE passing, playmaking. Just as sad as it is to see Tim playing with missing pieces around him, you can say the same for Manu. He isn't the same as before, but he is still playing at a high level.
at the end of close game, i only remember two kind of plays from TP and Manu: have the ball in their hands in the top of the paint, drive to the rim to score or to pass if the lane is clogged (with maybe a step back 3pts shot from manu).
for tim, it's having the ball on the post.
i don't see any specific playmaking ability there. and the clutch stats for manu in PO are quite average, clearly worse than tony's and tim's ones for the last three PO at least.
so when you talk about needing manu to close game, i say that tony and tim are there for this. A lot of teams haven't even two closers but only one.
PS: oh, and i'm clearly against a manu trade. i just want to see him on this team till the end of his career, even if that means having to read overreactions from his fanbase for some few years.
Last edited by kace; 01-27-2010 at 11:54 AM.
These are athletes in professional sports not your family members. In horse racing do you as an owner keep going with your old horse that is half what it used to be, injury prone, and on a decline because you love it? OR do you go with a new up and coming fresher young buck?
Professional Sports is a business. Why stress yourself out thinking it's not?
With my heart I would hate to see any of the Spurs go, I always have but I realize it's just that. An entertainment business.
What I don't understand is where the "Manu's playing has been reduced and will keep going down" thing is coming from.
Manu against Houston took for the first time in this season 15 shots, 15! That's pretty low for an All Star guard. In my opinion here some people is blaming him not putting up 20 ppg for the Spurs problems (along with RJ), and that's not true at all..
Manu is not scoring 20 ppg not because he's old, he's trying to be more of a playmaker in the game. Which has been great at it. The Spurs have enough weapons on offense and he's trying to have another role in the team. That's what's great about him and what the Spurs lose and probably never get something similar in return.
Sometimes here I see people overestimating the injury-age thing too much. Manu is fine, and will be fine. In my opinion I think that in PO time he'll unleash his best game just like in 2007. The bad thing for Manu is that now probably he can't focus 100% in the game with a lot of trading/re-singing topics around him and we know Manu is confidence guy, that's his fuel and this must be really affecting it. Once the trade deadline is over he'll probably can relax and keep playing and come the PO time he'll probably have this best self.
Last edited by MmP; 01-27-2010 at 11:59 AM.
For the best of the team, hmm.... Go!!!!!!
Im pretty sick of hearing of Manu like a 78 year old grown up that he can't even run just because he's not putting 48 pts every night. He still has it. Stfu...
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