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    with Derek Fisher shooting under 40% from the field and from three-point range. Kirk Hinrich would provide a viable defensive point guard who can knock down an open shot, even though he is also shooting under 40% from the field.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    the issue isnt if we want Hinrich for Fisher. Fisher aint going anywhere. Its who we give up for Hinrich...it looks like Farmar, Ammo or maybe Sasha.

    I say we do it. lol

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    I'm with you! I pray you'll don't get him. He was wetting our ass up at will. I wish the Spurs would trade Parker for Kirk an tyrus Thomas!

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    at some stupid lakerfans not wanting Kirk to replace Fisher's rotting carcass

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    Seems like a smart Lakersfan to me. I have no problem with Kirk but not at the expense of giving up Fisher. If that what it takes, no deal. The Lakers need Fisher in the playoffs, screw the regular season.

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    I thought William Shattner was going to suit up for us...That would've made us pretty much un stop pa ble.

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    Seems like a smart Lakersfan to me. I have no problem with Kirk but not at the expense of giving up Fisher. If that what it takes, no deal. The Lakers need Fisher in the playoffs, screw the regular season.
    As far as I can tell, the Lakers are set in the PG spot. Phil just needs to give more playing time to Farmar and Brown. Reserve Fisher on those tigh, clutch situations. That being said, its still not a bad idea to upgrade. Hinrich is above and beyond a better guard than Fisher whose been playing the worst basktetball of his career. I think he's dead last in PER among NBA starters.

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    As far as I can tell, the Lakers are set in the PG spot. Phil just needs to give more playing time to Farmar and Brown. Reserve Fisher on those tigh, clutch situations. That being said, its still not a bad idea to upgrade. Hinrich is above and beyond a better guard than Fisher whose been playing the worst basketball of his career. I think he's dead last in PER among NBA starters.
    It's true fisher is struggling this season, he also struggled last season in the regular season and you see how he came thru in the playoffs. Fisher never could guard quick guards, even during the Lakers 3 peat run but he does the intangibles and he's clutch when you need him most. I'm all for giving Brown and Farmar all the minutes in the regular season but I and Phil trust Fisher more in the playoffs. Fisher stays and retires a Los Angeles Lakers.

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    Seems like a smart Lakersfan to me. I have no problem with Kirk but not at the expense of giving up Fisher. If that what it takes, no deal. The Lakers need Fisher in the playoffs, screw the regular season.
    You realize if you guys had Hinrich instead of Fisher last year, you wouln't have been pushed to 7 games by the Rockets and probably would have finished the Magic in 4. Just saying, ya Fisher provides the 'clutch' aspect of the game but I doubt you guys would even be in that position with a guard who can defend really good.

    Your worries shouldn't be about losing a clutch player during the playoffs but can Hinrich learn the Triangle offense easily and run it? That was one of the reasons why you guys got Fisher back from Utah was because he knew the system really good. From what I understand the triangle offense takes time to master.

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    You realize if you guys had Hinrich instead of Fisher last year, you wouln't have been pushed to 7 games by the Rockets and probably would have finished the Magic in 4. Just saying, ya Fisher provides the 'clutch' aspect of the game but I doubt you guys would even be in that position with a guard who can defend really good... Just my 2 cents.
    See that's the thing. We don't know. Who's to say we even beat the Rockets with Kirk? What I do know is that with Fisher the Lakers have won 4 les. I rather take my chances with him this season.

    Edit: Don't get me wrong if the Lakers can pull it off without fisher, I'm for it. I just feel more comfortable with a proven veteran and leader in the playoffs for the lakers.

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    I think that wouldn't be a good move.

    Derek Fisher: Struggling with shot, plays solid defense, lots of experience in playoffs.

    Kirk Hinrich: Struggling with shot, plays solid defense, little experience in playoffs.
    Good comparison

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    I thought William Shattner was going to suit up for us...That would've made us pretty much un stop pa ble.
    Naah

    He is from Montreal, he would have played for the Canadiens

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    He looked like John Paxson last night against the Spurs....take him!

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    See that's the thing. We don't know. Who's to say we even beat the Rockets with Kirk? What I do know is that with Fisher the Lakers have won 4 les. I rather take my chances with him this season.

    Edit: Don't get me wrong if the Lakers can pull it off without fisher, I'm for it. I just feel more comfortable with a proven veteran and leader in the playoffs for the lakers.
    Fisher is like Robert Horry who happens to be on the team at the right time. Horry played with Olajuwon, Shaq, and Duncan, arguably top 5 Big man of all time. Believe it or not I think Kobe and Shaq could have done it without Fisher. But like I said I think you guys will be missing his knowledge on the triangle offense more than his experience in the playoffs.

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    Fisher is like Robert Horry who happens to be on the team at the right time. Horry played with Olajuwon, Shaq, and Duncan, arguably top 5 Big man of all time. Believe it or not I think Kobe and Shaq could have done it without Fisher. But like I said I think you guys will be missing his knowledge on the triangle offense more than his experience in the playoffs.
    I agree. Far as Kobe and Shaq without Fish, the world will never know. History says that they did not win without Fish.

    That's why I would not get rid of Fisher, if Kirk catches on and fits in well with the triangle, fine. If he doesn't work out, the Lakers have Fish. I'm more comfortable with that scenario.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    the trade isnt hinrich for fisher guys. Come on now.

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    If its Sasha/Morrison for Hinrich (which would only happen deadline if no one offers anything better), Chicago at least clears an additional $4 mil for cap space this summer.
    Sasha's contract is bad and he's an even worse player. Chicago would ask for Farmar or Brown + Ammo in such a deal. It's not like Hinrich is playing that well or anything so it would be a minimal upgrade over Brown/Farmar at the cost of about 20-30million extra after taxes for Buss. Farmar would make sense as there's a good chance he leaves in the off-season. But at that point I'd bet the Lakers would rather use their MLE on a pg than pay Hinrich 9 million for two more years. Could have just kept and overpaid Ariza if Buss wanted to pay that much.

    There are other expiring out there. Not buying Chicago settling for Sasha Vujacic when Hinrich could actually contribute to their team next year.

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    Agreed with XFactor.

    That said, it wouldn't be Fisher in the deal. Morrison, Sasha, and Farmar the likely bait.

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    I don't think Hinrich is worth the cost but If Dr. Buss doesn't mind, neither do I.

    On paper Jefferson appeared to be the better player and upgrade over an aging Bruce Bowen. You see how that's working out. I would be willing to bet that the Spurs fans would rather have kept Bruce.

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    Hinrich defends shooting guards waaaaaay better than he does point guards anyway. I could totally see Phil continuing to start Fisher while giving Kirk most of his minutes at the 2.

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    lakers would never trade fish. and btw, this trade is 3 years too late.

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    lakers would never trade fish. and btw, this trade is 3 years too late.
    Exactly. Hinrich would have been great in 2006 against the Suns. Lakers would have beat the Clippers as well and then watch Kobe go berserk against Dallas in the WCF.

    Now? 38% shooter with nagging injuries and too slow to defend quick points. He's not much better than either Brown or Farmar at this point of his career. Hinrich is a shadow of his former self.

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    Not worried about the shooting percentage. Rose isn't a playmaker and no one on that team is worth a double team. In LA, he'd be getting Fisher's wide-open looks.

    Next, he does defend better than Farmar (who doesn't). And what's missing is he's a good passer. So many points LA loses because Fisher can't throw an entry pass worth .

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    Hinrich to the Lakers rumors have been around for about 4 years now.
    I know, I meant I was arguing for him before that he would be a good fit when a few Laker fans here wanted inferior players instead..

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