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The frame was the routine surveillance of lawmakers propounded by CF, but you make a good point.
I do wonder what brainstorm triggered this. Hey, let's go tap a senator's phones should elicit a good laugh over a beer and be quickly forgotten.
The frame was the routine surveillance of lawmakers propounded by CF, but you make a good point.
I know about the NYT pickup and bloggy thing because I posted them.
The whole furore erupted on talk radio one day previous to the OP (according to Crookshanks see: the link to the original ST thread on O'Keefe's Acorn sting, posted by ashbeeigh upstream), so I just extrapolated from that the AP story was basically contemporaneous. You could be right for all I know about the Breitbart scoop.
At any rate, the lag time between the New Media (with Fox and AP suddenly counting as New) and the Old (NYT, et. al..), was basically five days. 9/9-9/14, 2009.
It cannot be reckoned the MSM hid the story in any way. They were in on it from the beginning, and from the vantage of the present, the so-called old media were dutiful scribes too.
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What are Fox and the AP?
This might be it...
http://patterico.com/2010/01/27/wash...nt-cash-again/
Still, the law is don't falsify to gain access...or assist.
Presenting false credentials to breech the security of a US Senator's office, is not the way to get an interview, but I guess Mr. O'Keefe will only have the rest of his life to wax purple about it.
I wonder if he got to keep his cell phone recording.
Think I'll create a defense fund...
"The people who support wiretapping and tar/feathering politicians on General prinicples defense and pub crawl fund."
We'll meet every Thursday at the Lion & Rose. Whatever's left over from the crawl...goes straight to the support fund.
Putting on the victim shoe already? I don't think you've been indicted of anything yet. Are you guilty minded?
Sounds like age appropriate fun to me. Do write us back whenever the treasurer's reports come in.
May your returns be as vast as your ambition, really.
Yeah...I guess it's age appropriate. And sure...I guess I'll write you back when treasurer's reports come in and the returns vast and ambitious.
Wanna donate?
Money? Ah, no.
I really wonder how this will play out.
Government buildings are the property of the people. False pretense or not, there was no law keeping them out. If politicians can lie to get the vote of the people, why can't people lie to get the ear of a politician?
Don't get me wrong. I am not condoning the actions that took place. I just don't think there really is a legal case.
It was "the people's" house.
Because it's a crime and against common sense to allow it.Government buildings are the property of the people. False pretense or not, there was no law keeping them out. If politicians can lie to get the vote of the people, why can't people lie to get the ear of a politician?
Against O'Keefe, you mean?Don't get me wrong. I am not condoning the actions that took place. I just don't think there really is a legal case.
One time, the unmarked six ton box truck I was driving broke down in front of the JJ Pickle building here in Austin. The date was April 19. Somewhere about 2000.It was "the people's" house.
Truck would not run. Another iceman in the area picked me up, and we delivered the whole city together in the small truck. Meanwhile, LE of various agencies babysat my boss with big truck for the hour and a half it took for the tow truck to show.
Last edited by Winehole23; 02-01-2010 at 02:59 PM. Reason: factual inaccuracy, removed; the barricades are situated otherwise than I indicated originally
I guess they has an anniversary scare...
That's the dumbest argument I've ever heard.I really wonder how this will play out.
Government buildings are the property of the people. False pretense or not, there was no law keeping them out. If politicians can lie to get the vote of the people, why can't people lie to get the ear of a politician?
Don't get me wrong. I am not condoning the actions that took place. I just don't think there really is a legal case.
It was "the people's" house.
....
I mean. Damn.
A little help, since I'm feeling charitable.
You mean lie to hear what the ear of the politician is hearing on their phone.If politicians can lie to get the vote of the people, why can't people lie to get the ear of a politician?
Of course. The disclaimer after the 'aw shucks' non-justification justification.Don't get me wrong. I am not condoning the actions that took place.
Aw, shucks, those boys were jest trying to say o, dat's all. It is der howse, after all.
I just don't think there really is a legal case.
It was "the people's" house.
Why is it that Cobra Commander seems more re ed the more he posts?
One wonders if Cobra Commander would be feeling so Mayberry if it was Abdul Hassim, American citizen, and his fellow Muslim-American friends who pulled such a stunt in a GOP Senator's office.
Summary: it was a really stupid idea that those who should have known better attempted. Now they likely face time in federal pound-it-in-the-ass prison for trying to prove that a Senator's phones were working normally, to prove that she was lying about her phones being jammed at some point. Or, the reward didn't merit the risk.
Now the Cobra Commanders and Southern Fried Chickens of the country will deify them.
, they deserve jail time for being that ing stupid.
Wasn't the
Better yet, one could imagine the Commander's response if it was Abdul Hassim, American citizen, who acted as though they wanted to bug a GOP Senator's phone which was used at some point to discuss...wait for it...national security with the Bush White House.
It's duh people's house, dat's all.
They should charge you along with those four for unmitigated stupidity.
For you, nope.Wasn't the
And since when do alleged "conservatives" turn anarchist?
Again, lifestyle. That's your politics.
Happens all the time in a rock and roll world.And since when do alleged "conservatives" turn anarchist?
Then I highly suggest you look at how often I use it.
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