Detroit's not a great team but still it's a good road win. This team seems to be getting better and better. Only question in my mind is will there bench improve during the course of the season, especially Ghazi's favorite player Hamed Hammadi.
ZBo with 24 points on 50%, 13 rebounds 3 assists
Marc Gasol with 25 points on 62%, 12 rebounds, 4 assists
Rudy Gay 16
OJ May 16
Conley 14
Arguably the best frontcourt in the NBA and easily one of the top starter rotations.
If the Grizz keep on playing that balanced, most teams will find it hard to beat them.
Gasol scored the last 6 points of the game. Detroit had their chances to win, but missed too many easy shots in the final 2 minutes.
Yeah, they blew it on that one possession where they stole it from Zbo's rebound but missed 2 wide open attempts.
Zack Randolph is a terrific player in the post. He really controls the paint offensively with his scoring and defensively with his rebounding. His A game opens up alot of things for the Griz.
BTW, their home winning streak will end on Saturday.
That's a huge, huge divisional game...like 2 games really.
Who would have believed any fan would be watching the Grizzlies record?
Memphis has great balance in their starting line-up offensively. Their main issues are two-fold. First, they play horrible defense. Ben Wallace looked like a good offensive NBA player tonight. And, second, they have little to no production off the bench. Both of those things will hurt them in the playoffs, but it's not like they'd be expected to do anything if they do make the post season. But, they are a nice, exciting team. They rebound well. And, they can really score. Nice, young team.
I'm actually really hoping M. Gasol goes to the All-Star game. Would completely invalidate every collusion thread ever made on SpursTalk.
IMO, acquiring a cheaper Gasol is turning out to be a smart decision by Memphis. Memphis wouldn't have been able to acquire Randolph is Pau was under contract. Basically, they've added Randolph and Marc Gasol by trading Pau. Not to mention drafting Conley and Mayo by rebuilding the last couple of seasons.
I think Memphis being better than they ever were with Gasol invalidates the collusion threads.
It actually wouldn't. You don't evaluate how good a trade is well after the fact. You evaluate it at the time. At the time, Marc Gasol was a good international player but an unknown as it pertained to how he could play in the NBA. It's like saying at the time, the Pistons made a great trade shipping Grant Hill to Orlando for Ben Wallace. Retrospective analysis doesn't change the perceptions at the time of the trade. It was still a bull trade. And, it wasn't only what Memphis got in return that made it collusion. It was how the trade was handled.
Yes you do. When you make a trade for draft picks and future cap space in the biggest free agent class ever, you absolutely do not evaulutate it at the time. Doing so is short-sighted and overall dumb.
Wrong again. He was the ACB MVP at the time and Draft Express was calling him a lottery pick if had he came out a year later than he did.
The trade was standard procedure. Trading a disgruntled player that had absolutely no future with the franchise for young talent and cap space in the biggest free agent class ever.
Way worse trades have been made. Even at first look.
The collusion wasn't only about what Memphis got in return. It was the fact that Memphis didn't talk to any other teams, didn't look at what at the time could have been better offers. No other teams/GMs even knew Pau was on the market when the Grizz traded him. That's a big part of the collusion that has nothing to do with how good Marc Gasol was or is. This has been discussed at great length. How good Marc Gasol has become does not invalidate the collusion implications that went along with the trade at the time.
Now you're just lying. Gasol was on the trade block for over a year.
See above. Not to mention Pau made public comments about his unhappiness.
It's been discussed at length and you apparently missed the discussion. Well do ented that Gasol was being shopped for a long time before the trade ever took place.
Gasol was shopped in the summer of 2007. Then Memphis made it known they weren't trading him. Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, they traded him to the Lakers. There were several GMs quoted saying they had no idea Gasol was available when he was actually traded.
I think it's fair to say Marc Gasol and the Grizzlies will win at least 1 Playoff game this year. Something Pau couldn't do in 12 tries.
Lakers could have kept Marc and saved Pau's salary for a nice Point Guard.
Pau Gasol is still better than his little brother. The trade was two years ago; the Lakers couldn't wait on Marc taking those two years to develop while Kobe was demanding a trade. The lost to the 2004 defending champ Spurs, to the 2005 Suns as an 8th seed, to the 2006 Mavs that went on to win the conference le. I think it's fair to say the Grizz won't run into a team as good as those squads should they make the playoffs, and if it's the Lakers, I'd be surprised if they win more than one game.
There's no excuse to never win a Playoff game. Even TMac getting laughed at for a 1st round virgin won some games.
As for Kobe, he was happy with the team after Bynum showed up. The Lakers before the Pau trade had been #1 in the West.
The Lakers wouldn't have won in 2008 with Pau or Marc. Even a rookie Marc Gasol was very good last year. And with Pau's salary, the Lakers could have picked up a big time point guard.
As for Marc not being as good as Pau, it's very close. Marc's only 2 points and 1 rebound behind Pau....for $14 million less.
Marc is the better defender and shooter.
Pau has better footwork and is a better passer.
I think Marc surpasses Pau next year.
When you're on the trading block and then your team continues to get worse. You remain on the trading block. Indiana 'made it known' to the media that they weren't trading JO multiple times. It's called posturing.
Your entire premise is based on a flat out untruth. There were Gasol to the Bulls rumors in 2008, not just 2007. It was known that Gasol was not happy and implied publicly he wanted out during the season. Common knowledge that he was inevitably going to be traded.
Nothing but bitterness.
Out of nowhere, you mean 3-4 weeks before the trade-deadline? Yeah completely out of nowhere.
That's not my point. I'm not convinced the 2010 Grizz are better than the 2004 version.There's no excuse to never win a Playoff game. Even TMac getting laughed at for a 1st round virgin won some games.
And is the better playerPau has better footwork and is a better passer.
Doubt it.I think Marc surpasses Pau next year.
They'll win a game at least.
True...for now.And is the better player
Pau's 2 points and 1 rebound ahead of Marc this year at $14 million more in salary. Not a stretch at all for Marc to come up with 3 more points and 1 more rebound.Doubt it.
I would take Marc Gasol + $10 million point guard over Pau any day.
And if it's against a team not as good as those Spurs, Mavs or Suns teams, what does that prove? What's the difference between losing 4-0 and 4-1?
Well sure. But he's not 17 million better and Pau is 5 years older. Marc is shooting 60% and plays tougher D.
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