A Little Mass Effect 2 News

[IronMexican]

I was renegade incidentally last time. Gonna try to go all paragon this time around.

[z0sa]

You must have had extremely high expectations if you think ME1 and 2 are disappointing.

Id go as far as to say unreasonable expectations.

Let me first say I don't have enough playtime on ME2 to make any judgment. Maybe it's as spectacular as I hope it will be (in many aspects, ME1 was as well). The dialogue/voice acting, graphics, and story are top notch. The characters are likeable and realistic. The entire thing is exciting to be a part of. But there's other factors..

I certainly think my expectations are entirely reasonable. Primarily, I think it (ME1 and from what it seems, ME2) lacks the sidequests/story telling and 'everydayness' of the Besthesda epic RPGs (not trying to make a comparison of qualities, simply features). It is a problem that plagues DAO as well: everything feels too set up.. I'm playing FF7 and it's the same idea. People walking around the same place, no passage of day, the universe never changes. The side missions feel like you're rerunning a script sometimes. Just too 'top heavy' without the bottom to fill it out.

I picked up his game at some spaceport. It seemed big at first, but in reality, not a lot was going on. You can't talk to most of the people. You can sit at a table with a hot blue dancer. Every closed door/passage leads to a new sidequest like I'm in a dungeon. Thought it said in the beginning a 8 million people live throughout this place. It's a great game, but I think we're getting to the point where there's gotta be even 'more' of the useless (but not really) to make it real.

But alright, it's not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination. It's actually a great game, both of them are. Just thought there'd be more..

[IronMexican]

I agree with zosa(That doesn't happen a lot). I feel Bethesda RPG's are better, cause, like he said, it lets you pretty much do what you want to do. That's one thing I didn't like about ME1. You can choose what you want to say, but at the end of the day, the same thign will pretty much happen. ME2 changes that a bit.

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

Was in the Presidium last night at the bar and got my character drunk, dialogue made me lol after the 4th shot.

[symple19]

This game was simply amazing. One of the best single player games I've ever played. If you don't own this game, you should. I might buy go buy this, cause it was that damn good. Only downer is I did everything and it took 20 hours

Since my first post after having the game, I've since come to a few different conclusions.

1. Not enough loot, weapons, armor, or items in general. Even less than ME1, by a long shot.

2. Scanning ing planets is a tiresome, brain-dead endeavor. I miss the Rover. (Thankfully I can up the DPI on my mouse so the process takes less time)

3. Refueling the ship...Really? Could you come up with something more pointless?

4. A few annoying bugs that aren't expected from a Bioware le. I've had to restart a few times after getting stuck.

5. Less abilities. 4 max, with the exception of Shephard. Also, only 2 squad-mates instead of 3.

6. Clips for weapons!? Why? Stupid, stupid! Technology in ME2 somehow took a step backward.

I have to disagree with my friend IM, DragonAge is better (IMO) by a long ing shot. ME2 took some steps forward, but also took a few backwards. The Linear storyline is absolutely fantastic, but the depth that hardcore RPG heads need just isn't there. I find myself going through the motions all too often




On the brighter side, the integration of the previous ME is fantastic. I constantly find myself confronted with I did in ME1. Truly makes me regret not playing through it(ME1) again before I started the second..

Bioware did a good job of fine-tuning the Renegade/Paragon system. You will be confronted with situations where a graphic will appear during conversations that allows you to take a different direction than simply speech options. For instance, I'm a Paragon with some Renegade tendencies. During a conversation with an unsavory character, it gave me the ability to throw him out a window before the dialogue had even ended(A renegade scenario). Very cool. (keep your finger over the controller/mouse buttons during conversation)

IMex!? How did you finish it in 20 hours?! I'm at 39 hours(probably a few of those hours are from me being AFK) and only level 20. I am definitely the type to read everything and make an effort for total completion, but holy you did that fast!!!!

Overall, I give it an 8 of 10. If Bioware learns it's lessons and combines the best of the first (exploration, items, loot, and overall depth) with the best of ME2 (Combat, paragon/renegade system, graphics, and the Normandy experience) then they'll have a true 10/10.

Overall, a fantastic ing game well worth your money.

DragonAge, tis' not

[MiamiHeat]

no stats on weapons....

that part sucks. i don't like this loot system, and weapon system.

[z0sa]

"2. Scanning ing planets is a tiresome, brain-dead endeavor. I miss the Rover. (Thankfully I can up the DPI on my mouse so the process takes less time)"

Yeah, I was the most disappointed with the rover parts because I thought planets should have towns/cities and other random on them, but at least there was a vehicle and big worlds to drive around in... the scanning is just boring to the nth degree and necessary.

[symple19]

no stats on weapons....

that part sucks. i don't like this loot system, and weapon system.

"2. Scanning ing planets is a tiresome, brain-dead endeavor. I miss the Rover. (Thankfully I can up the DPI on my mouse so the process takes less time)"

Yeah, I was the most disappointed with the rover parts because I thought planets should have towns/cities and other random on them, but at least there was a vehicle and big worlds to drive around in... the scanning is just boring to the nth degree and necessary.

Any other thoughts guys?

I should add that I really like the loyalty system.

Favorite NPCs????



My Shepard is a chick(lvl 20 infiltrator with a bad girl streak). Been trying to get into Yeoman Kelly's panties, but nothing other than dinner so far. ( I refuse to read strategy guides or walkthroughs, so excuse me if the question is stupid) Wish they would let me go after Miranda.


Has anyone else's fish died?! I've spent 10 grand on fish and every time I return to the cabin they're gone...WTF?

[symple19]

Oh yeah, and there is a "mouse" character in-game. You'll laugh heartily when you get to that point...I know I did

[IronMexican]

Yeah, when I saw Mouse, it made me think of mouse

[MiamiHeat]

ok, i am 20 hours into this game now

it sucks compared to the first Mass Effect. I am not saying the game is terrible, the game's story is still great, but this is BioWare we are talking about. What the happened? This isn't even an RPG anymore.


- no big towns or cities to explore like in ME1. all towns in ME2 are disgustingly small

- no ability to control squad members

- no weapon stats or interesting weapon backgrounds, diverse company manufacturing, stories

- game just a bunch of mini-missions with no big worlds. when you begin a mission, you basically just get 'teleported' to a new area via loading time. rinse and repeat.

- no mini-games, now it's just says "You won x in playing cards"

- planet scan for minerals... why doesnt a crew do it? i miss the mako, at least I could vehicle fight VS thresher maws......and get out of my vehicle and fight on foot... and discover stuff....

- no extra dialogue from NPC's when u talk to them again, one sentence and that's it

- the HUD isn't as good, no sprint meter, no real good squad shield/health bars etc

- medi-gel doesn't heal anymore... only revives..

- no interesting conversations and problem solving for NPC's in towns. Compare these pathetic towns and NPC's in ME2 to the really great ones in ME1....

- lack of customizable squad team armors

- can't talk to your squad anymore while not on normandy, no more deep stories

- no more intimidate/persuade skill points

- completing any mission makes you leave the planet, forcing you to go to Galaxy Map and re-land on the planet. Why? in ME1, you just leave the Normandy and you are on the Docks of that planet, go through decontamination

- no cool side missions and NPC interactions in towns. there are VERY little side-missions, but nothing like ME1

- reloading weapons or their lame explanation "Thermal clips".... why were the guns in ME1 better than this? Where are all the great guns with unlimited ammo? Geez....

- less powers and abilities at disposal.....


This isn't really a sequel to Mass Effect. This feels like Mass Effect LITE.


will have to push myself to finish this game, this is easily BioWare's worst game ever. will sell this game soon as i finish.

[z0sa]

Yeah, I'd have to agree this game has disappointed me far more than I imagined possible. Yet everyone is giving this game rave reviews and BioWare props - what gives?

[MiamiHeat]

Mass Effect 2 has been severely dumbed down

and neutered of game content.

But no worries, I am sure EA will sell us lots of DLC that is already on the disc we own.

[ElNono]

Just started yesterday... hate the grunt work to 'scan' planets... other than that, it's been mildly ok... Way too linear though... No 'walking the wastelands for the unexpected' like Fallout 3...

[IronMexican]

This game is definitely no Fallout or Oblivion. Bioware just isn't capable of it

[BlackSwordsMan]

how does it end?

[cool cat]

Since my first post after having the game, I've since come to a few different conclusions.

1. Not enough loot, weapons, armor, or items in general. Even less than ME1, by a long shot.

2. Scanning ing planets is a tiresome, brain-dead endeavor. I miss the Rover. (Thankfully I can up the DPI on my mouse so the process takes less time)

3. Refueling the ship...Really? Could you come up with something more pointless?

4. A few annoying bugs that aren't expected from a Bioware le. I've had to restart a few times after getting stuck.

5. Less abilities. 4 max, with the exception of Shephard. Also, only 2 squad-mates instead of 3.

6. Clips for weapons!? Why? Stupid, stupid! Technology in ME2 somehow took a step backward.

1. I agree, I found myself running around early on in the game looking for loot but pretty much everything you find is on a linear path so there isn't much room to explore.

2. Planet mining is way to boring.

3. Agree 100%

4. Bioware les are always buggy, but so are most RPG's.

5. You can only have 2 squad mates in Mass Effect 1. Same thing with KOTOR.

6. It's funny because in the game they say they clips are used to keep a constant rate of fire but its way slower then ME1 because you have to reload all the time. A bigger problem I have is no blind fire when in cover. It may not seem like a big deal but when you are low on health and the enemy is charging there is nothing you can do about it. Pop up and get shot and die, run away and get shot and die or stay until they get there and die. Blind fire would at least slow them down.

Overall the game is better than ME1 but in several ways ME1 is superior, which surprises me.

[MiamiHeat]

It's not BioWare's fault, guys..


EA bought BioWare....so this is what is going to happen now.

Smaller games, lack of detail and content...

and then nickel and dime us with DLC.

EA.

[z0sa]

If this game just did everything the way it 'should' be, it'd be epically great...

1. Every planet with settlements/manufacturing should have some form of a population and at least 1 findable settlement

2. Star systems' stars should be bigger, you shouldn't be able to fly through them and rotation/passing of time should actually occur (depending on your distance from the local sun/citadel) and have an effect on the game.

3. Just way more to settlements/cities in general. People should work and live somewhat realistically. One planet should have multiple different locations rather than single missions meant to spread over a few (ie a town, an extraction plant nearby, a pirate base on the north pole, etc)

4. Scanning should be combined with ME1's Rover exploration so that when you discover large resource veins, you go down in the rover and extract them yourself and perhaps fight who's mining it, as well (just anything to make it more interesting).

5. There should be way more options concerning teammate appearance/armor.


others:

while in a system, pirates/other ships attack the normandy depending on the system, or other random outerspace stuff

[redzero]

While it would have been nice to have more RPG elements, I think that Mass Effect 2 has a better gameplay and characters than Mass Effect. I don't miss having to travel around in Mako, there should have been worlds to explore.

[Chomag]

Yeah, I'd have to agree this game has disappointed me far more than I imagined possible. Yet everyone is giving this game rave reviews and BioWare props - what gives?

I'm not understanding this as well. People already saying it's one of the best games they have ever played in awhile. I got into about 20 yours of it but I still can't seem to find what makes people think its so great. Don't get me wrong, it's a pretty good game, but not great.

Another game that seems rushed.... oh well, seems to be a trend since companies like EA like to nickle and dime you with the DLC. DLC that could and probably should have been in the original in the first place.

Because of the profit milking these companies make with DLC gone are the days we get a fully completed game. So sad...

[z0sa]

^ yep.

Truth is, Mass Effect 2 tries too hard at being at an action game.

[resistanze]

Well, now I don't feel as bad as I did before for holding out in this game 'till the price drops. Thank you, you bas s

[redzero]

how does it end?

You get a glimpse of these bad boys.

[symple19]

On my second playthrough now

I did like the ending

You guys make some excellent points