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Manu Ginobili
I think that somebody shrank the rims & I wasn't notified // Estoy empezando a pensar que la NBA achicó los aros y no me avisaron nada.2 hours ago
- From his Facebook
Manu Ginobili is known for his fourth quarter and playoff time playmaking. Sure, he's blown some games due to a dumb mistake, he's even blown a series at one point. However, he's also been compared to Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan in the times of clutch. He's the player people use to say they'd take number one for a game winning shot. Then el contusión happened and the battering his body took aged him more than some others. Still, this year he's been pretty healthy... a bit slower, but still the Manu we know. The one thing that's been lacking has been his shot... whether its finishing at the rim or just making a jumpshot, something's been off. Well, just like Manu becomes a beast when someone gives him a hard hit, I think the trade talk and the general lack of respect he's been receiving is about to be the equivalent of a fourth quarter slap in the face.
Here are the signs that Manu is about to go off:
- The Spurs championship goal requires that he do so. Tim can't do it all on his own and Parker's going to be slower for the rest of this season. Manu has to be the other guy.
- Nobody's respecting Obi Wan Ginobili. The refs aren't respecting him, the fans aren't respecting him (trade Manu for Stoudemire???), and the organization isn't respecting him in his mind. He's played the game in an "everybody else comes first" mode since he came in the NBA... maybe he's ready to jettison that approach if it improves his chances of a trophy.
- Contract year: the team hasn't extended his contract like he wanted, and Manu's going to have to earn himself the money on a contract from all the potential teams out there who might want him. Time to end the "he's an aging SG talk."
- He might be a half step slower, but its the shot that is really keeping him from making it. An angry Manu usually finds his shot again. A clutch Manu usually finds his shots again. Both of those are now.
- Tony Parker is down. It might be a bit taboo, but we all really know that Parker and Ginobili generally lack some level of synergy... on the court, off the court, they just don't jive like some others. Manu's going to make this team his own for a bit. If he's leaving San Antone, he's going to make everyone remember what they lost.
- It only takes one game for him to find that rhythm again. Just so happens he's probably going to get more minutes and much greater shooting opportunities for a while. We'll see what happens.
- You talk about trading Manu for somebody else, and you can be guaranteed he's pissed off. Real pissed off.
If all these things together don't kick start Manu into going nuts on the court in the next few games, he's over the hill and on the way down. If the Manu who can't be stopped in the last 5:00 of a 4th quarter is still in there somewhere... then God help the other teams the Spurs are going to play in the next few. Time to find out if Manu can still be Manu.
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Manu Ginobili
I think that somebody shrank the rims & I wasn't notified // Estoy empezando a pensar que la NBA achicó los aros y no me avisaron nada.2 hours ago
- From his Facebook
^^^^^this
Agreed. Aside from his shot, and a few went in and out last night, he is playing balls out. He is sneaking up for steals on big men, he is contesting shots of players others are guarding and hitting the boards hard. He is really exerting himself. If...his shot returns...it will be something. He is definitely playing with a chip on his shoulder.
This thread got me HYPED!!!!
dude is giving 120% every night. You gotta be an idiot not to notice that.
Manu has blown more then just one series, remember 04 when he had defending Derek Fisher and then Derek Fisher scored over Manu in 0.4 Seconds how about 06 when he made the worse foul of his life sending Dirk to the line to go to over time and losing the series, those are two le opportunities!!
Last edited by DynastySpurs210; 01-28-2010 at 03:56 PM.
Yeah, because that shot by Fisher hasn't ever been called a "miracle shot." Never.
im not as optimistic. Been waiting all season for ginobili's shot to return, it just might never happen. His mid range jumpers are all clanking and is now shooting below 40 percent.
+1000000000000000
Hey the thread got me excited and I am in total agreement. A pissed Manu is a dangerous Manu. He wants to win and the ball is his and he is taking it home! (Until Blair showed up...) I can definitely see Ginobli destroying a team in the near future.
Hard to figure why the shots aren't falling. A shooter's eye is usually the last thing to go and he was deadly with that step back 3. That shot doesn't require much physicality. So it could come back with sufficient playing time to make sure he's not winded and has the practice.
The Fisher shot was NOT Manu's fault. It was just a miracle.
ing re troll. Manu was all over Fisher on that shot; sometimes you just gotta prop a guy for making a ridiculous shot.
i still can not undestand why anyone would want amare for manu.
I'm tired of that play against the Mavs.We were up by 3.Who made that 3? So he put us up by 3 and his fault on Dirk gives to the Mavs only 1 point.At the end without Manu we had lost by 2 anyway.
About 0.4 if you think that it was Manu's fault then it seems that you only play basketball in the NBA Live
First of all, we are not in those games without Manu. As for the foul on Dirk, compared to Dirk's hard and admitted foul on Tim seconds later, it was a completely bad call. As for the Derek shot, it was a lucky well contested shot that is impossible to get off in 0.4 seconds. I'm sure we've had our share of calls in our favor over the years.
Indeed, Manu is prime to be going off the remainder of the season. He hasn't exactly been a slacker so far. The games I've seen, in person especially, he has obvious been the most energetic player on the floor....with or without big scoring.
Yeh, Manu lost that series right there......
Meh, I disagree with just about the whole opening post. Ginobili isn't the type of player that needs motivation. He's already playing as hard as possible. He's not going somehow play harder due to being in a contract year or hearing trade rumors or because he feels disrespected or whatever. That's not how Ginobili is programmed. He's already giving it his all.
As for Ginobili not getting along with Parker "on the court or off the court", I don't agree with that either. Off the court, Ginobili might be closer to TP than anyone on the team right now. On the court, Ginobili and TP have played well together. They've been connecting at a high level over the last month or so.
Ginobili is already playing a lot of minutes and has been getting up plenty of shots lately (13+ shots in the last four games). With Parker out, perhaps Ginobili will get enough touches to work himself out of his shooting funk ... but that's about all you can hope for. Most of his problems are related to just not able to physically beat his man in one-on-one situations. That doesn't have anything to do with Parker or trying harder; it's a physical limitation.
Not trying to be negative, but he HAS lost half a step (no maybe about it), and the reason he's shooting so poorly, both at the rim and jumpers, is that his legs have clearly lost a good deal of their explosion.
Can he compensate for this? Sure. He has already changed his game to accommodate it to some extent by increasing his passing with spectacular results. However, I don't think he's going to go on a scoring tear like he did in carrying the team last season and the season before when TP was out because he just doesn't have that in his body any more, even if his mind might will it. The NBA is more athletic than it has ever been while Manu is going in the opposite direction unfortunately.
He'll just keep doing what he has been doing lately, hopefully with a further adjustment to his shot-taking to account for the lack of spring, and that's fine with me.
I agree he does not need added motivation because he is someone who gives it everything all the time. But normally he does it within the system. He is now venturing outside the system, going for more steals and blocks. It seems as if he has decided to do whatever is necessary to win because others (whether because they are new or not) are not doing their job. So he is trying to do his job and theirs. Hard to sustain.
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Manu was never a springy shooter... You know, a guy that needed much lift at all to take a shot. He's just missing everything right now and that's just that. Streaky shooters go through this stuff, like Mason a the end of last season... I know he's gonna come out of this funk eventually. I'm just glad it's happening now and not during the postseason...
manu's clutchness, as his passing skills lately, has been overrated on this board (which doesn't mean he's not great), the stats (like ratio assists/bad passes or clutch stats from 82games.com are rather clear about that) that's just the way it is with manu here, like the OP just did.
Still, i just find it dumb to blame him for the loss against the mavs. that was a damn bad foul, but to consider he lost the serie alone on this only foul whereas he was good otherwise is just unfair.
And for the 0.4 shot, manu couldn't have defended better on Fischer.
well, i'd take the synergy that brought us 3 trophies any day.
Last edited by kace; 01-28-2010 at 06:32 PM.
Oh, and I know for a fact that Manu and Tony are really good friends off the court, including going to music concerts together. The silly idea they're not comes from manufan conspiracy theorists that claimed TP didn't pass Manu the ball more...
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