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    Retail politics is a .
    Kinda the perfect cluster. The television age and the consolidation and centralization of pedagogy arrived just as the country's politics were becoming increasingly democratic. Everyone's free to vote and yet, they know nothing. Or, they lack the skills to discern the information they have access to as well as to examine that which they know and believe.

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    What happen to "you lost, we won" the dems used to pull out all the time. Now the President of the United States of America is wanting a do over when the Supreme Court comes back with a 5-4 verdict. And lies durning his first State of the Union about it. Obama has zero class,humility and credibility.

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    So we're left with politics as lifestyle, two groups yelling at and creating caricatures of each other, content to seek comfort in conformity instead of diversity of opinion. And naturally the diversity we celebrate is superficial and based on physical characteristics instead of intellectual ones.

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    Everyone's free to vote and yet, they know nothing. Or, they lack the skills to discern the information they have access to as well as to examine that which they know and believe.
    Not even caring counts for much in my estimate, but yeah, people suck too.

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    But why care when the Great American Progress Machine rolls on? Only when it breaks down is there a problem. Only when a war of choice doesn't end quickly and decisively does it become a problem.

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    He never had any to start with with you, jacksommerset

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    Thats not true. Soon as he became President he had my support. Thing is, it didn't take long for him to our country (Earmarks) and go back on his word. Lets not highjack Yoni's thread but that is the truth.


    Obama last night showed his true colors again. I got a HUGE kick out of him talking down to the repugs about how they need to come up with a idea for Healthcare He literally locked the doors for 6-7-8 months!

    His lies are in your face, no spin, just lies. And I forget to mention most of the times, his policies suck. Most Americans do not want them. They ignore the polls, they ignore the votes and continue to say America wants healthcare. It's a joke and I don't need to try to convince anyone he is a liar anymore. They all know it. Now it is a waiting game.

    I also like the freeze.

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    I suppose it was an act of unmentionable temerity and defiance when calls were made to enact legislation to undo the Supreme Court's flag burning case (Johnson v. Texas).
    This?

    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-8127456.html

    Or maybe it's just that if a President is going to call for direct reaction to a Supreme Court decision, he or she should do so only when those jurists are cloistered.
    The Supreme Court should be protected from the President's opinion?

    Hilarious.

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    Earmarks or what not are a drop in the bucket. It's something both sides play with to act as though meaningful cuts are occurring in the federal budget, or to paint as the real cause of the bloated budget instead of defense and en lement expenditures. It's a convenient myth.

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    This?

    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-8127456.html

    The Supreme Court should be protected from the President's opinion?

    Hilarious.
    What's halirious is he didn't tell the truth. I think they made a mistake but don't lie about it. Tell them that but don't lie to make your case. He really can't help himself.

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    Earmarks or what not are a drop in the bucket.
    This guy with zero expierence was elected because he said he would change D.C, "NO EARMARKS" he said time and time again. Bam over 8,000 of them. He signed off on it. No problem. No "I'm sorry" , he just did it. Thats pretty ing big but it does not stop there. The beat goes on.

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    What's halirious is he didn't tell the truth. I think they made a mistake but don't lie about it. Tell them that but don't lie to make your case. He really can't help himself.
    It was a very provocative opinion.

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    I'll come up with something better next time.


    yonnnnnnn

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    yonnnnnnnnivore?

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    Thats not true. Soon as he became President he had my support. Thing is, it didn't take long for him to our country (Earmarks) and go back on his word. Lets not highjack Yoni's thread but that is the truth.
    Fair enough. I'll not contest that you gave Obama a fair chance, jack.

    BTW, how long did it last?


    What did Obama in, for you?

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    Probably when he got all uppity.

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    Fair enough. I'll not contest that you gave Obama a fair chance, jack.

    BTW, how long did it last?


    What did Obama in, for you?
    Feb, maybe March. I was floored by the Stimulus bill along with all the Earmarks. A rather quick process from that time on.

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    Feb, maybe March. I was floored by the Stimulus bill along with all the Earmarks. A rather quick process from that time on.
    My. You outlasted DarrinS by months. He didn't even make it a week.

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    That doesn't change the untruth of the statement.

    On campaign finance, though. Exactly how does money translate to votes? Unless donors are buying the electorate's vote at the polling booth, I don't see the problem with lifting restrictions on political giving.

    you're joking..

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