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    How many of you guys didn't take the previous game Vs Memphis seriously until they roughed us up? come on now, you know you have to consider your opponent as much as your own team......

    I started a thread about how every single opponent from the last 10 in January was a legitimate playoff team and people joked about Memphis being above .500 and saying Chicago was a mess. ugh.

    .......You guys realize Memphis is one game behind San Antonio. ONE GAME.

    They're playing well. Of course you realize this from our last meeting....
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    Respect the opponent, especially when they are legitimately good
    but take this next game or so at face value. Please don't start lame threads about trading for Zach Randolph to beef up the frontline or ing in threads about how George will never fill the shoes of Tony. ... He's not supposed to! We'll be a different team without. For better or worse. At least some momentum after Wednesday's game. That kind of confidence can fuel a solid game even with an odd rotation.

    Lineup?
    1-Hill
    2-Mason
    3-Jefferson
    4-McDyess
    5-Duncan

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    2-Bogans
    3-Ginobili
    4-Blair, Bonner
    5-Ratliff? Mahinmi?
    Christ, Memphis is big, PLEASE put one or both of them in!

    again, maybe Bogans starts to guard Mayo. But since Memphis' starting 5 puts up a lot of points maybe Popovich goes with Mason to keep up the offense. Mayo is a tough dude but a little small, we might be able to hang in by slamming him with Hill, Bogans, Mason non-stop.

    Now that I think of it, Sam Young has been known to just blow up for 20+ points. Bogans off the bench to keep the wild card a non-factor?

    Definitely need the D-intensity we caught a glimpse of vs Hawks. That plus big time rebounding and keeping the bench out of it(aka limiting them to under 100 points) gives us a chance to out-coach Hollins. I know this season it seems odd to say "out-coach the opponent".....

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    They were on the come up with one of the hottest home records when the Spurs played them (Bobcats and Hornets also had incredible home streaks at the exact same moment), anyone who took them lightly is an idiot

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    There was some crazy stat I saw the other night.

    Since the Iverson problem was fixed back in November, the Grizzlies have won at higher pace than any team not named Cavs or Lakers.

    A win by the Spurs keeps them ahead of the Grizz
    A loss by the Spurs puts them behind the Grizz in the standings

    This is a pretty "big" game.
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    One of the things I liked and thought affected the game in the first hafl of the Hawks game was (and yes I'm a homer) Mcdyess running the floor hard on the breaks. He got down the middle and even though he didn't get the ball the majority of the time he crowded the defense and planted under the basket which seemed to give Tony and G Hill an easier time getting to the rim. There were times where it seemed like three or more defenders were confused as to who was on the ball and who had Dice under the basket and it seemed to help the penetration. Maybe I was just watching with biased eyes.

    I feel like when he plays like he played last night the Spurs are a different team. We didn't even shot the ball that well and it was still a blowout. As long as the effort is there, this team can beat anyone.

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    One of the things I liked and thought affected the game in the first hafl of the Hawks game was (and yes I'm a homer) Mcdyess running the floor hard on the breaks. He got down the middle and even though he didn't get the ball the majority of the time he crowded the defense and planted under the basket which seemed to give Tony and G Hill an easier time getting to the rim. There were times where it seemed like three or more defenders were confused as to who was on the ball and who had Dice under the basket and it seemed to help the penetration. Maybe I was just watching with biased eyes.

    I feel like when he plays like he played last night the Spurs are a different team. We didn't even shot the ball that well and it was still a blowout. As long as the effort is there, this team can beat anyone.
    Ya, Dice played this game like an Olympic track meet and set an example for everyone on the team. He was sprinting down court on every play and the other thing I noticed was he was looking for position on the low block and around the paint, something he hasn't done at all so far this year. Up to this game, Dice was content to run his high pick and roll and shoot jumpers.

    Now that he's starting to get comfortable with the offense he's expanding his arsenal. He displayed some really nice footwork and finishing moves in the paint last night. It was great to watch.

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    There was some crazy stat I saw the other night.

    Since the Iverson problem was fixed back in November, the Grizzlies have won at higher pace than any team not named Cavs or Lakers.

    A win by the Spurs keeps them ahead of the Grizz
    A loss by the Spurs puts them behind the Grizz in the standings

    This is a pretty "big" game.
    Yeah it must've been Iverson..
    Can't deny that the Grizzlies have been on a roll as of late, but let's see if they can sustain it for the remainder of the season. I doubt it.

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    Yeah it must've been Iverson..
    You obviously missed the interviews with Iverson saying he's a starter with Mike Conley sitting right next to him in the locker room.

    And the reports of him openly talking about Lionel Hollins on the team bus?

    “Go look at my réesumé and that will show you that I’m not a sixth man,” Iverson said after a loss in Sacramento. “I don’t think it has anything to do with me being selfish. It’s just who I am.”

    As Iverson complained to reporters, Conley was sitting in the locker room, listening to every word. Conley had struggled at the start of the season, and it was widely assumed Iverson believed he should be starting over him.
    “I heard a lot of things. I tried not to pay attention to them, but I could feel it throughout the city in Memphis just the way conversations were going and how people loved Allen Iverson and how they described [the situation]. Of course it’s going to bother you knowing that all this stuff is going on and the only way you can control it was to perform well. What people say was their opinion. They could say what they want, and I could keep doing what I’m doing on the court and hoped it worked out.”

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    You obviously missed the interviews with Iverson saying he's a starter with Mike Conley sitting right next to him in the locker room.

    And the reports of him openly talking about Lionel Hollins on the team bus?
    You would think being a nuggets fan would have opened his eyes to what a team cancer Iverson is, having watched Billups elevate that franchise from lottery team to to le contenders almost overnight.

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    You would think being a nuggets fan would have opened his eyes to what a team cancer Iverson is , having watched Billups elevate that franchise from lottery team to to le contenders almost overnight.
    You would think so indeed....

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    You would think being a nuggets fan would have opened his eyes to what a team cancer Iverson is, having watched Billups elevate that franchise from lottery team to to le contenders almost overnight.
    It had more to do with whom the Nuggets were matched up with in the playoffs last season as opposed to the season previous to that. Nuggets with Billups were a 54 win team last year and Nuggets w/Iverson were what, a 50 win team? ...yeah the gap is real big there.. (Not to mention around that time Nene and Kenyon were hurt/playing hurt). I'm not arguing that this team isn't better off with Chauncey than AI(obviously), but had the Nuggets drew the Lakers in the 1st round like the year AI was on the team, the end result would still be a first round exit. But yeah let's all act like Iverson was always this "team cancer" and hasn't done to help make any team he's ever been on any better. After all, everything is his fault.

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    Randolph is just a flat out beast, memphis are legit but they will fall back to earth. IMO it will be between them, phoenix and new orleans for the 7\8\9 spots

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    You obviously missed the interviews with Iverson saying he's a starter with Mike Conley sitting right next to him in the locker room.

    And the reports of him openly talking about Lionel Hollins on the team bus?
    I'm sure Iverson signed a contract w/ Memphis thinking he was going to come off the bench...blame goes both ways.

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    I'm sure Iverson signed a contract w/ Memphis thinking he was going to come off the bench...blame goes both ways.
    Who cares where the blame goes?

    You said "Yeah it must've been Iverson.."

    If you want to blame it on management, it's still about Iverson. If you want to blame it on Iverson, it's still about Iverson.

    Iverson, regardless of management blame or not, was a cancer on the Grizzlies.

    Fact remains the Grizzlies have been a much better team since they got rid of Iverson.

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    Who cares where the blame goes?

    You said "Yeah it must've been Iverson.."

    If you want to blame it on management, it's still about Iverson. If you want to blame it on Iverson, it's still about Iverson.

    Iverson, regardless of management blame or not, was a cancer on the Grizzlies.

    Fact remains the Grizzlies have been a much better team since they got rid of Iverson.

    I'm not disputing the fact that the Grizzlies have been playing MUCH better since his departure moron. What I am though, is that in your post you make it seem as if he was the sole reason that was holding them back, yeah like we all knew the Grizzlies were going to be this good this year...


    Who cares where the blame goes?
    Obviously you do otherwise you wouldn't have been so quick to throw his name in there.

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    Did you hear? Memphis has been playing so much better since they got rid of the Canswer, oh and so have the Pistons and Sixers...oh wait.

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    I'm not disputing the fact that the Grizzlies have been playing MUCH better since his departure moron. What I am though, is that in your post you make it seem as if he was the sole reason that was holding them back, yeah like we all knew the Grizzlies were going to be this good this year...
    If you aren't disputing that it was about Iverson, why did you say this?

    "Yeah it must've been Iverson.. "

    Back tracking much, moron?

    Obviously you do otherwise you wouldn't have been so quick to throw his name in there.
    I said who cares whether the blame goes to management or Iverson? It's still all about Iverson.

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    Memphis might falter down the stretch with such a weak bench, but I'd say they're definitely better than teams like Phoenix and New Orleans, no doubt about it IMO..

    This one is going to be tough, but I think the Spurs can win if they just play with the effort they played with last night..

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    If you aren't disputing that it was about Iverson, why did you say this?

    "Yeah it must've been Iverson.. "

    Back tracking much, moron?


    I said who cares whether the blame goes to management or Iverson? It's still all about Iverson.
    Wow, you can't be that dense right? That post was clearly made in a sarcastic gesture, hence the emoticon.

    Let's just clear all this up.

    1. I clearly agreed that the Grizzlies have been playing since his departure.

    2. That the blame shouldn't fall solely on Iverson and people should'nt be so quick to blame him for everything because there's always two sides to every story.

    Now if you can't understand this, then that's not my problem. F*ckin' Laker fans these days...

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    Wow, you can't be that dense right? That post was clearly made in a sarcastic gesture, hence the emoticon.

    Let's just clear all this up.

    1. I clearly agreed that the Grizzlies have been playing since his departure.

    2. That the blame shouldn't fall solely on Iverson and people should'nt be so quick to blame him for everything because there's always two sides to every story.

    Now if you can't understand this, then that's not my problem. F*ckin' Laker fans these days...
    Sarcasm is meaning the opposite of what you are writing. By saying you were being sarcastic, you are saying it WASN'T Iverson. Look for yourself.

    "Yeah it must've been Iverson.. "

    Back pedaling is 'bout the right speed for you, as usual Blaze.

    ps. posting pr0n in my profile page ain't gonna change that
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    Memphis has incredible talent. They come together strongest on their homefloor because of their youth. Some days, chucking and no defense is the name of the game, and sometimes the chemistry between them is fantastic. That's the thing about youth.

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    Sarcasm is meaning the opposite of what you are writing. By saying you were being sarcastic, you are saying it WASN'T Iverson. Look for yourself.
    Captain obvious to the rescue. thanks, you only pointed that out about twice now.

    I'll say it over again, I'm not disputing the frickin fact that the Grizzlies have been playing better since his departure, rather people,meaning you, are so quick to throw his name in to make it seem as if he's at fault. He and he alone. That's why my first post was made, meaning he must have been the only problem for their slow start, sarcastically of course.



    Back pedaling is 'bout the right speed for you, as usual Blaze.
    As usual? , I rarely ever post. Care to provide me with some examples. Don't go around makin' up now son.

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    Captain obvious to the rescue. thanks, you only pointed that out about twice now.

    I'll say it over again, I'm not disputing the frickin fact that the Grizzlies have been playing better since his departure, rather people,meaning you, are so quick to throw his name in to make it seem as if he's at fault. He and he alone. That's why my first post was made, meaning he must have been the only problem for their slow start, sarcastically of course.
    The problem is, Allanon considers AI being the only problem as a fact. That's why he fails to recognize your opinion, because he thinks you're disputing a fact, not his opinion.

    In other words, he thinks his opinion is actually a fact.

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    Allen Iverson was part of the problem. Well, he clearly was not the answer to the problem though. Mike Conley. After looking like a total bust in his first two years in the league, he became a good point guard that shares the ball with his teammates. That said, he always carries the out of the ball when he is dribbling, and it is disgusting to see.

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    The problem is, Allanon considers AI being the only problem as a fact. That's why he fails to recognize your opinion, because he thinks you're disputing a fact, not his opinion.

    In other words, he thinks his opinion is actually a fact.
    Hi Z0sa, following me around as usual. I have yet another fan troll

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    Hi Z0sa, following me around as usual. I have yet another fan troll
    You're in my forum. The Spurs forum, by that.

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