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  1. #301
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    Career wise its Kobe> Lebron But as for RIGHT NOW Lebron is the better player.



    But as Career Wise kobe as accomplished more than Lebron has for now..

  2. #302
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    When Kobe was hitting 50% from the field with 30/5/6, hitting game winners left and right while leading the Lakers in the West without Gasol, people were comfortable with the notion that Lebron and Kobe are 1a and 1b, and that was just a few weeks ago, then injuries struck Bean and they automatically scratch Kobe from the best player list for the entire season?



    That's just wrong.

  3. #303
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    You're really having trouble with reading comprehension or following along the thread.

    Someone else talked about what if Jordan didn't win les. And, I'm not dismissing Jordan at all. I'm comparing the perception of Jordan before he won les with the perception of LeBron now.

    Even before Jordan won his first le, people were talking about him being one of the greatest players ever, just like they do now with LeBron. When Jordan went on to win multiple les, that basically cemented his greatness.

    People talk about LeBron as already being one of the greatest players ever. Now things can go one of three ways for LeBron assuming he stays healthy. He can win multiple les as the man and go down as probably a top 5 maybe even top 3 player ever in the history of the game. He can win no les and still have a remarkable statistical career and still probably be a top 25 player ever, but definitely not anywhere close to the discussion of greatest ever. Or he can win one, maybe two, les but has to get on a stacked team to do so, where he'll be viewed more as like a Kevin Garnett type guy but still one of the all time greats.

    Now please try to follow the posts and the thread better before attacking people, especially if you don't really understand what is being discussed.
    Thank you for making sense

  4. #304
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    I'm not trying to attack anyone but if you make a stupid comment im gonna respond

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    I'm not trying to attack anyone but if you make a stupid comment im gonna respond
    You've been making stupid comments and attacking posters, yet no one has really called you out yet, ever think why?. Maybe its time to realize calling posters names is not exactly the best way to prove a point? Man up a little bit and be objective with discussions, it would help you out in the real world.

  6. #306
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    i am stepping up its just that when you see people post ridiculous statements you kinda have to ask yourself what the is wrong with them.

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    Problem is you haven't been understanding some of those comments fully and you are not picking up on sarcasm. People read your posts and think pretty much the same thing you think when you think you see a ridiculous statement.

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    Word^

  9. #309
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    im sorry if i can't see sarcasm through text....

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    That's why you have to fully read posts and the thread to get better context. If a Lakerfan makes a comment saying it's clear LeBron James is better than Michael Jordan, you can have a pretty good idea that it's sarcasm for the purpose of making a point, especially if you read his other, previous posts in the thread.

    And if it was only sarcasm you had a problem with, it wouldn't be as big of a problem. You've also misconstrued non-sarcastic comments as well. And, moreover, you are attacking people when you do so. So, it's quite a bit off-putting for you to attack posters when you don't even get what they're saying.

    I could have just gotten into a flame war with you, but I realize you're somewhat new to the board and instead I explained the things I said that you misconstrued. There are plenty of posters on here that would have just attacked you right back. Just try to have a little more tact when you get into a discussion or debate. And if you're going to attack and call names, you better be damn sure you know what you're talking about and you understood what the other poster was saying, and more importantly what that poster means.

  11. #311
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    i am stepping up its just that when you see people post ridiculous statements you kinda have to ask yourself what the is wrong with them.
    i think its more of a reading comprehension problem.

  12. #312
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    That's why you have to fully read posts and the thread to get better context. If a Lakerfan makes a comment saying it's clear LeBron James is better than Michael Jordan, you can have a pretty good idea that it's sarcasm for the purpose of making a point, especially if you read his other, previous posts in the thread.

    And if it was only sarcasm you had a problem with, it wouldn't be as big of a problem. You've also misconstrued non-sarcastic comments as well. And, moreover, you are attacking people when you do so. So, it's quite a bit off-putting for you to attack posters when you don't even get what they're saying.

    I could have just gotten into a flame war with you, but I realize you're somewhat new to the board and instead I explained the things I said that you misconstrued. There are plenty of posters on here that would have just attacked you right back. Just try to have a little more tact when you get into a discussion or debate. And if you're going to attack and call names, you better be damn sure you know what you're talking about and you understood what the other poster was saying, and more importantly what that poster means.
    The thing is i get the feeling when a laker fan says this is there not joking thats the problem its really ridiculous

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    The thing is your feelings could be wrong, and in many of the attacking posts you've made in this thread, they were wrong.

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    Why would be IMPOSSIBLe to say Lebron is better than MJ IF he is better than kobe?
    - Lebron has great stats
    - Does more with less
    - Is more athletic

    if les dont matter why not Lebron? he gets more boards and assists ...

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    Why would be IMPOSSIBLe to say Lebron is better than MJ IF he is better than kobe?
    - Lebron has great stats
    - Does more with less
    - Is more athletic

    if les dont matter why not Lebron? he gets more boards and assists ...
    The "chosen one logic" rings don't matter just the opinions of somemedia and loser internet posters!!!!

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    Division champioship banners LOL conference banners!!! WTF?!
    What do THOSE look like up close? Oh wait ... I have seen them at the AAC in Dallas and the ALamodome in SA.... never seen those at staples or the Forum ...i wonder why?!

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    You posted this twice? That's mighty white of you.

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    All jokes aside why put up last year's division banner?! I bet Lebron would of never agreed to that if he had a say ..

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    All jokes aside why put up last year's division banner?! I bet Lebron would of never agreed to that if he had a say ..
    Well LeBron isn't the Cavaliers, so he doesn't get a say on this one.

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    You posted this twice? That's mighty white of you.
    Hey joe was mr. tait a great announcer in his younger days?
    Dont take this wrong ...even the GOAT chick Hearn was tuff to listen to in his last days but we loved him ...I heard a clip of him announcing a spectatular Lebron play and he sounded like johnny most on his last legs ...like maybe he was bored cuz Lebron is great most nights ...

    i bet he is better than the TV guys those ...

    just your thoughts never heard him announce a full game ...

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    Well LeBron isn't the Cavaliers, so he doesn't get a say on this one.
    not being a smart ass i would of put best record in NBA if i was going to put up anything ...but it's cool just messing but please answer the Tait question cuz if Lebron stays you guys deserve better than the TV guys you have But if Tait is normally good you could mute tv and listen to TAit

    i did that with chick A LOT RIP ...

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    Hey joe was mr. tait a great announcer in his younger days?
    Dont take this wrong ...even the GOAT chick Hearn was tuff to listen to in his last days but we loved him ...I heard a clip of him announcing a spectatular Lebron play and he sounded like johnny most on his last legs ...like maybe he was bored cuz Lebron is great most nights ...

    i bet he is better than the TV guys those ...

    just your thoughts never heard him announce a full game ...
    Watch my sig. That's Joe Tait at 52 or so. Pretty much in his prime.

    Chick was the man. Impartial, too: he appreciated greatness in all uniforms. Chick did have the luxury of calling 60-win teams, though. Joe Tait has called some awful basketball over the years. And he's always done it solo. No Stu Lantz's, w/all due respect.

  24. #324
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    Watch my sig. That's Joe Tait at 52 or so. Pretty much in his prime.

    Chick was the man. Impartial, too: he appreciated greatness in all uniforms. Chick did have the luxury of calling 60-win teams, though. Joe Tait has called some awful basketball over the years. And he's always done it solo. No Stu Lantz's, w/all due respect.
    I hear you and glad you appreciate chick (and Joe) I hope he makes it to see the Cavs win one which they will do as long as the FO doesnt screw it up ...

    When you lose a great announcer the games are not the same ...I used to like Stu with chick (the chick n stu shirts in La were classic) but without him Stu is just mehhhh

    Chick was fair. even though he loved the Lakers he ripped them and spread love some of his calls of Dr.J's dunks on the Lakers were all-time classics

    Chick: Here comes the Doctor ...ROCK THE BABY TO SLEEP!"

    Never have a i heard a better call when my team was getting their ass handed to them ....most guys (announcers)today would of bemoaned the TO

    One of Doc's signature moments and they Play the opposing announcer ALMOST everytime!!! CHICK was the best ...

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    maybe off topic, maybe not....but Lebron has 9 first quarter assists

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