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If you're going to start Bogans despite his lack of production and lack of defense, how does Ian not even get a few minutes?
This team can't afford to sit on its hands waiting for Matt Bonner to screw his head on right, he looks awful out there. We have Ian and Ratliff doing nothing on the bench. Time to make a move on this, Pop.
Bogans is simply not a consistent shooter and never will be. Might as well see what Hairston has (we know he is far and away a a better offensive player and I even heard he is even starting to extend his range on his jumper to the 3pt range).
If you're going to start Bogans despite his lack of production and lack of defense, how does Ian not even get a few minutes?
I would wait to see if we make any trades at the deadline for a big..I would expect Bonner/Finley to be involved if there is a trade, so I think we'll wait it out..
Bogans needs to make those open shots though, nobody was even near him on his misses..his D isn't good enough to make up for that IMO..
Bonner thread!
I'm glad that at least Dice is playing well enough that he can finish the games...
I'm glad he's playing well enough that Pop doesn't think a guard can do his job.
I have a real fear that Pop's stubborness in insisting on breaking in Matt Bonner to the rotation is going to eventually end up breaking the team's momentum and confidence.
That, and if Pop does make a move concerning Bogans, it will be Finley's corpse instead of Hairston.
LMFAO......
It's not a big deal to bring back Bonner, because his shot's going to start falling once his hand heals up. You should pray that Dyess or Blair don't give Pop an excuse to move Matty back into the starting lineup, because you lose every good thing that Bonner gives the team at that point while matching him up against starting NBA bigs. As long as he's coming off the bench he's going to be useful. He'll have more than one night like Mason had tonight that will help give the team a win.
Bonner shooting threes with a broke hand is still better than small ball.
I don't mind playing Bonner at all, I said it in the other Bonner thread, I gave my reasons..he should play, if not for his game, then at least to boost up his trade value a little..
I didn't like how Pop played him vs. Randolph tonight, that's the only time I have a problem with Bonner..I don't like him guarding guys like Randolph, even though he didn't punish him, he was taking stupid shots against him..
Pop should have put him in later on when the Grizz had Haddadi, Thabeet or Steven Hunter in the game..
I agree with dbestpro that Bonner>small ball though, that's for sure..
I'm with you about Bogans though..
It's not even his shooting that is the most alarming thing. Mentally he is not there at all. He has lost all his confidence, composure or poise out there. It's sad to see.
If I recall right, it took him a half a year to regain the last time he lost his head, and the spurs really can't afford his mental miscues this time around with a tough 2nd half (rodeo trip) coming up.
You can tell all of this by looking at a 4 game sample...in which he played a total of 9 minutes in the first two?
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ya I can, it's as obvious as the pock marks on Pop's cheeks.
With all due respect, I'm wary of your opinions of Bonner under the best of cir stances, so forgive me for suspecting your first-hand accounts. I'll weigh in on Sunday after the Denver game.
If Pop brings in the younger Hairston to replace Bogans I would defenitely lean toward using the more experienced Ratliff over Mahinmi, I think for 10-15 mins a game Theo would be a GREAT rotation player.
This team is scoring plenty of points as is. Since Bonner has been out scoring points hasn't been a problem, but defense has been. Putting Ratliff in for Bonner's 10-15 mins a game would help the defense tremendously.
C McDyess/Ratliff
PF Duncan/Blair
SF Jefferson/Hairston
SG Mason Jr/Ginobili
PG Parker/Hill
There's your 10 man championship caliber rotation. If Hairston can provide some scoring punch from the bench that means Manu and his > 40% shooting can focus even more on playmaking, which I can only see as a good thing.
Bonner has always been bad.... He is A slow, undersized big man, who cannot rebound, or play any type of defense. He can shoot when he is wide open.... but now he cant even do that because of his hand.... He is and always will be garbage to me!
You need to drill in your head right now, January 30th, that neither Hairston or Ian are going to log one single minute the rest of the season unless there's injuries that require their presence in the team. They're the last guys on the roster, and they're not going anywhere...
We are not going to win a championship with Bogans and Bonner in the rotation. Book that.
This game in my mind cements the fact that Bogans cannot shoot and Bonner's head is back up his ass. Changes will need to be made or else.
If I had my way.....
Starters
McDyess
Duncan
Jefferson
Finley
Parker
2nd unit
Ian
Blair
Mason
Manu
Hill
Bogans
Ratliff
You can gripe all you want, but not going to happen... Hairston is already a lock for the Toros the rest of the season... Ian got beat by every other big, including Ratliff AND small ball...
Is that you, Pop?
, I can go out there and move like a turtle, not play defense or rebound and miss wide open three pointers. At this point Matt Bonner is just a warm body. Totally useless. If we don't trade him, at least bury him on the IR.
If McDyess is playing well, Bonner is completely insignificant. I just don't want to see him anymore. It bums me out when he comes in. I don't want to be in a bad mood when I watch the Spurs.
I want to break-up with Matt Bonner.
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