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    Kobe Wants 'Old-School' Defensive Rules To Return

    Lakers guard Kobe Bryant would like to see the NBA return to their "old-school" defensive rules.

    "I'm old-school," Bryant said Friday night.

    "I'd like for us to go back to the old rules," he said. "Get rid of the 'crutch defense,' known as the zone defense, and have guys guard man-to-man and stuff like that [and allow] hand checking and all that. I think that's better basketball."

    The NBA started to allow zone defense at the beginning of the 2001-02 season.

    Hand checking was first outlawed in 1994 and shortly thereafter, in 1997, defenders were prohibited from using forearms to guard against players facing the basket.

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    Hand checking isn't that big of a deal. Good players use that contact as leverage to get by their man even easier.

    Advanced defenses like zone blows anything you saw out of the water during the 90s and 80s. Back then flagrant fouling someone going up for a layup was considered "good defense.".

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    Dude Pistons hand checked all the time in the 2004 season and we always got away with it.

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    Of course he does, he wants to prove he can be as good as Jordan which we all know he isn't and never will be.

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    defensive 3-second rule must be removed too

    and also flagrant fouls, so defenses can punish people who go to the rim again.

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    Kobe Wants 'Old-School' Defensive Rules To Return

    Lakers guard Kobe Bryant would like to see the NBA return to their "old-school" defensive rules.

    "I'm old-school," Bryant said Friday night.

    "I'd like for us to go back to the old rules," he said. "Get rid of the 'crutch defense,' known as the zone defense, and have guys guard man-to-man and stuff like that [and allow] hand checking and all that. I think that's better basketball."
    Do you guys agree that basketball is better without zone? (I don't.)

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    Kobe wants old school D?

    The same guy who does a lot of vocal flopping?

    Please, if he played in the 80's or 90's ,he would be whining like a

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    Yup, the old-schoolers had it alot easier with the mano a mano defense.

    Top players today would be averaging 35-40 points without these bull advanced zone defenses.

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    Yup, the old-schoolers had it alot easier with the mano a mano defense.

    Top players today would be averaging 35-40 points without these bull advanced zone defenses.
    all that lakerjuice must have rotted your brain

    you got it backwards there, brah

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    all that lakerjuice must have rotted your brain

    you got it backwards there, brah
    Obviously you were born stupid, son.

    How is it backward?

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    Obviously you were born stupid, son.

    How is it backward?
    Zone defenses have always been more effective against post players than perimeter players.

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    What a cry baby. He needs to stop complaining and play the game.

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    Most of today's players couldn't handle old school d.....would love to see it though.

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    Zone defenses have always been more effective against post players than perimeter players.
    WTF are you talking about? Where did you get this? Where is your proof of this.

    Zone defenses like the Box and 1 are specifically made to stop 1 player.

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    Most of today's players couldn't handle old school d.....would love to see it though.
    Players like Wade couldn't handle it. He'd be a joke in the 90s. Guys like Kobe however would flourish.

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    yo, ball would be so much better if we keep the zone d and let hand checks and real flagrants.. not the pussy 50 fts a game type of play we see nowadays.. you wanna go to the hole then you gotta go HARD.

    I'd love to see some cruel 80's flagrant stuff. Make a C play like a man not like pau gasoft in the name of god, we're not collecting daisies from near the magical pond, we're playing a man's game.

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    Obviously you were born stupid, son.

    How is it backward?
    I don't think today's best perimeter scorers would score less or more points in zone vs no zone

    Their PPG would be more or less the same.

    The only difference is HOW they would get their points: in zone, they are more often wide open on 3's; in no zone situation, more penetrations, FT's...

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    Kobe just wants to use his hands on defense and get away with it.

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    Players like Wade couldn't handle it. He'd be a joke in the 90s. Guys like Kobe however would flourish.
    Actually, I do agree with that. Most couldn't but Kobe could thrive in any era...I think LeBron and Timmy could too...maybe it would cure their whining. I love TD but he, as does LBJ and 24, tends to whine too much for me.

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    Hand checking was first outlawed in 1994 and shortly thereafter, in 1997, defenders were prohibited from using forearms to guard against players facing the basket.
    There's no way it was outlawed that early. The 2004 Pistons, especially Lindsey Hunter and Mike James, hand checked all the time. I could of sworn they changed the rules after 04.

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    I don't think today's best perimeter scorers would score less or more points in zone vs no zone

    Their PPG would be more or less the same.

    The only difference is HOW they would get their points: in zone, they are more often wide open on 3's; in no zone situation, more penetrations, FT's...
    At least you understand that a zone *EDIT* does NOT *EDIT* allow for easier inside scoring, unlike some other fans. I give you props for that

    A guy like LeBron, with no zone defenses would probably average like 40 points.

    You have 2-3 players in a zone against LeBron right now and he's averaging close to 30 points. What 1 defender can stop LeBron from dunking 15-20 times a game for 40?

    In the 2008 Finals, the Celtics employed 3-4 man zone defenses to stop Kobe and ignored the rest of the team to get theirs.
    Last edited by Allanon; 01-30-2010 at 03:22 PM.

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    At least you understand that a zone allows for easier inside scoring, unlike some other fans. I give you props for that

    A guy like LeBron, with no zone defenses would probably average like 40 points.

    What 1 defender can stop LeBron from dunking 15-20 times a game?
    Advantages of playing a zone defense
    There are several reasons for a team to use a zone defense. Some are listed below.
    • The opposing team has a player or players too quick (in the case of guards) or too big (in the case of forwards or centers) for a man-to-man defense to be effective.
    • Many zones pack defenders in the lane but allow the offensive team to take long-range shots. If the opponents are poor long-range shooters, a zone can be very effective.
    • Unless trapping is involved, zone defenses typically do not involve aggressive pressure on the ball handler and allow the offensive team to pass the ball around the perimeter, leading to more time being used by the offensive team before a shot is attempted. Therefore, teams wanting to slow down the tempo of a game will often choose to play zone.
    • A poor defensive player can often be "hidden" in a zone because teammates can more easily help if he or she is beaten.
    • If players are in danger of fouling out (especially forwards or centers, who typically guard the lane), using a zone helps to take the pressure off them.
    • Playing a zone is usually less tiring than playing man-to-man, so fatigued teams are more inclined to use zones.
    • Some teams play a zone when the opponents inbound the ball under the basket to help prevent easy scores off of screen plays.
    • Against teams with inexperienced guards, trapping zones can disrupt the offense and force turnovers.

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    Laker fan is delusional. Kobe would look pretty average going up against the old school hard nosed defense Jordan had to face. The nba is constantly changing the rules to make it a SG's game in order to find the next Jordan.

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    Straight from Wikipedia ^^

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    Laker fan is delusional. Kobe would look pretty average going up against the old school hard nosed defense Jordan had to face. The nba is constantly changing the rules to make it a SG's game in order to find the next Jordan.

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