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    ...who's out to get your white women!

    A new poll of self-identified Republicans released Tuesday shows a large slice of the GOP believes President Barack Obama is a “socialist” who was not born in this country, should be impeached, wants the terrorists to win and only won the 2008 election because ACORN “stole” it for him.

    The survey of 2003 self-identified Republicans, who typically trend much more conservative than voters who “lean” Republican, was conducted by Research 2000 for the liberal blog Daily Kos.

    According to the poll, 63 percent of Republicans believe Obama is a socialist; 39 percent think Obama should be impeached; 24 percent said Obama wants “the terrorists to win”; and 31 percent agreed with the statement that Obama is “a racist who hates white people.”

    Those numbers are just a portion of the results from the poll that paints the GOP as much more socially conservative — and in some cases conspiratorial — than most analysts would be willing to grant.
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    I doubt very many Republicans can define socialism if you paid them. They just hear it on wing-nut radio and think it's something cool to oppose...

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    This is the poll commissioned by a guy who wrote a book making the case that conservatives are like jihaddist terrorists and killers, right?
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    I believe the majority of republicans would make great consensus with democrats on this issue if the current host of the house was another guy.

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    This is the poll commissioned by a guy who wrote a book making the case that conservatives are like jihaddist terrorists and killers, right?
    Who please?

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    You have an annoying habit of failing to make your very own point by leaving important parts out.

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    I can't understand anyone who would even try to make a case that OBAMA is not at least a socialist.

    Why is he not a socialist?

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    I disagree. I think he's only a Socialist (singular).


    Being a Socialist is not evil or anything -- just wrong for America.

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    Nobody ever defines EXACTLY what Magic Negro does that is socialist. 99% of the people who parrot "socialism" don't have clue what it is or how it works.

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    Ok Boutons...here's your moment to shine, use it well.

    Why is Obama not a socialist?

    And what would he have to do to be a socialist?

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    @ boutons criticizing someone for parroting.

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    Ok Boutons...here's your moment to shine, use it well.

    Why is Obama not a socialist?

    And what would he have to do to be a socialist?
    shouldn't you be defining what a socialist is, if you are making the accusation? Or do you make it a habit to make a claim and then require other's to disprove it?

    Tell us how he meets the definition of a socialist. I guess the first thing you would do is define what a socialist is. Then you would have to use specific examples of Obama's actions (not inferences) and compare that to your definition. I'll wait.....

    In the end you are a lazy arm chair whiner .

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    Pretty good take on this "poll".

    "Interesting. Though the article reflects the fact that 63% percent of THESE republicans (admittedly more conservative), think all these things, it does not tell us how many "republicans" think themselves to be STRONG republicans. What if out of 100% of republicans, only 5% actually are strongly republicans. This article is going to be cited over and over and it is going to have pundits try to LEAVE out the fact that it was only a subset of a subset of "republicans" that feel that way. Doesn't surprise me at all. But, let's watch the "spin" on forgetting that this is a subset of a subset. Let's do one on the "subset" of the subset of Democrats that call themselves Dems AND liberal? "

    I can't wait for the Daily Kos to handle up the Dem poll.

    BTW Dan, I can build a poll that will have you voting for Bush for a 3rd term. Wouldn't make it true.
    If you're stupid enough to accept a poll without examining it's methodology, then Rahm has a word for you.

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    shouldn't you be defining what a socialist is, if you are making the accusation? Or do you make it a habit to make a claim and then require other's to disprove it?

    Tell us how he meets the definition of a socialist. I guess the first thing you would do is define what a socialist is. Then you would have to use specific examples of Obama's actions (not inferences) and compare that to your definition. I'll wait.....

    In the end you are a lazy arm chair whiner .
    I'll bet you a bag of donuts the poll had the word socialist as a choice...and it most likely didn't define it either.

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    i guess that makes them socialists as well

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    Dan, hammer grasped firmly, surveys a vast field of nails.

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    Nobody ever defines EXACTLY what Magic Negro does that is socialist. 99% of the people who parrot "socialism" don't have clue what it is or how it works.
    Ok Boutons...here's your moment to shine, use it well.

    Why is Obama not a socialist?

    And what would he have to do to be a socialist?
    shouldn't you be defining what a socialist is, if you are making the accusation? Or do you make it a habit to make a claim and then require other's to disprove it?

    Tell us how he meets the definition of a socialist. I guess the first thing you would do is define what a socialist is. Then you would have to use specific examples of Obama's actions (not inferences) and compare that to your definition. I'll wait.....

    In the end you are a lazy arm chair whiner .
    I'm sure Bouton's is out there furiously doing research. This is his moment, give him a chance man.

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    Of course, he's a socialist.

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    wikipedia

    "Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization advocating public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended"

    eg, Socialism was Mitterrand/Socialists nationalizing all the banks in France in 1981, simply because they could having been elected, not because the banks needed nationalizing. purely gratuitous socialism by the French (socialist) government.

    What has Magic Negro done that has the US govt, or workers, taking over the means of production?

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    Obama wants to use taxes to level out the playing field. Could someone explain how that is not a socialist notion.

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    What has Magic Negro done that has the US govt, or workers, taking over the means of production?





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    check it out, darrin. you're in one of the categories!

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    AIG and GM were taken over not for socialist principles, but because "free market" capitalism failed horribly and govt decided that letting the AIG take down the planet's financial system and GM take down 100s of 1000s of jobs was not acceptable.

    Very much like St Ronnie deregulating caused the S&L crisis with the "socialistic" takeover of S&L under Resolution Trust Corp. Were you ignorant ers ing about socialism St Ronnie in the '80s?

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    AIG and GM were taken over not for socialist principles, but because "free market" capitalism failed horribly and govt decided that letting the AIG take down the planet's financial system and GM take down 100s of 1000s of jobs was not acceptable.

    Very much like St Ronnie deregulating caused the S&L crisis with the "socialistic" takeover of S&L under Resolution Trust Corp. Were you ignorant ers ing about socialism St Ronnie in the '80s?
    We were all over the internetz back in the 80's...oh wait.

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    I don't know his name, it's Markos something, the guy who owns DailyKos, the SBNation network and stuff.

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    BTW, Dan's "poll" = epic fail. No wonder he hasn't come back into this thread.

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