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Raja Bell isn't really a backup PG or a forward.
Bell has definately fallen off, and that was before getting injured and missing big chunks of a season.
But I can see an argument for Bell, specifically with the Lakers in mind. Kobe isn't a high-flying penetrating dunkmaster as much as he used to be. His game has changed to more jumpers and more post-ups. Bell right now couldn't handle the Kobe of old . . . but could be dirty enough to bother current Kobe.
Bell is a player I hate, but really, if no trade is made do people expect Roger Mason to get a new contract from the Spurs this off-season? They'll be over the tax and already have what appears to be a legit starting two in Hill and could very well re-sign Manu.
Raja Bell isn't really a backup PG or a forward.
if they said forward and backup PG must mean the forward is starting caliber so most of these ideas dont fit
well, even though the suspects played, their playing time might have been a go just to shop them.
Bell has slowed down to the point he's more SF than SG. Kinda like Bogans.
But yeah, the Kings announcer would likely call him a SG. If the word around the arena was that the Spurs might have to home a few players out due to an impending trade, I'm guessing we'll know in the next 24 hours if it is legit.
If it isn't legit, it'd be interesting to know WTF prompted the comment by the Kings announcer
with Pop, Bell would be the new smallball PF.
Timvp's point about Mason being traded is well taken. Dude is on the Express Train into Pop's doghouse right now, and if there's anything worse than having an inconsistent shooter in the game at crunchtime, it's having a 3.75M expiring contract guy who never sees the floor.
If I've learned anything about Pop in the last ten years, it's that his doghouse gets us nowhere. Only one thing to do with Mason....move him.
I think the Dorell Wright thing is a good possibility, or the Raja Bell thing. I also like the idea of Ramon Sessions/Ryan Gomes as Spurs. Not sure how the salaries would work out, but I like both of those guys.
Timvp I thought you love Bogans..and when did Rajah knock down Kobe?Last I looked, the best I could tell is he'd be ready to play again in March. Since that is another month away, it doesn't make much sense to trade for him now. The Spurs would likely wait until the trade deadline ... unless the Warriors are pushing for a completion of the deal.
As for Bell, I wouldn't love the deal but he'd be an improvement over Bogans. Plus, anyone willing to knock Kobe on his azz is a friend of mine
Sessions/gomes sounds good, I doubt the spurs are willing to pay it but maybe tyrus Thomas and hinrich?
I haven't heard anything about this however keep in mind the Bulls are shopping Hinrich and Thomas for possible cap space. They also need a shooting guard. Manu seems like he could fit in this deal. No idea in the legitimacy of this though.
Given the information we have at our disposal, I'd be surprised if it's not Mason for Wright and Arroyo. Too many things add up, as I alluded to earlier. This move would also likely be a strong indication that Hill will now be the full-time starting SG. Assuming that is the case, then it makes sense to have another Arroyo, who's a true PG. Wright is a long, athletic forward; something this team needs. He doesn't have a single discernible skill (other than he's a decent rebounder) that I'm aware of, but he has potential as a defender.
I'm skeptical, though. Not that the Kings announcers were lying (they'd have no reason to), but in this day and age, not one insider has any information on this posted on a website? Strange.
Assuming this is in fact the trade, it clears up the logjam at SG and balances the roster better.
didn't he clothesline Kobe when he was a Sun?
I still agree with my original assessment back at the start of last offseason:
..and when did Rajah knock down Kobe?
I ain't mad atcha, Raja
Thanks.
I've got to believe this came from Amick if they felt comfortable going over the air with this. The fact that they said a forward and a backup point, doesn't lead me to think Bell, though; Raja just doesn't seem someone that's distinguished as a forward by most.
Golden State has seemed to me to be the most logical trade partner for the Spurs. They've got players like Maggette, Turiaf, and Biedrins that could be dealt to help their books; they've got Bell whom the Spurs have already expressed interest in; and they've got a guy like Randolph that could entice a team like the Spurs if they decided letting him go was worth the unloading of Maggette; I was more optimistic for such a scenario earlier on.
If it is Golden State that the deal lies with, the backup point is obviously Watson, as he's the only player there to fit the bill (the Spurs have some experience with him through the summer, as well). If I had to guess the forward, I think I'd go with Turiaf. He and Watson would combined for about $5M this year and could be had for not much more than Mason.
Rather underwhelming, if this is the case.
Nocioni+Rodriguez?
What prompted Mason's doghouse status? Anyone know?
Shooting like and playing zero defense.
Bricking clutch shots in crunch time.
The dude was a one trick pony last year and has sucked with a reduced role.
Yeah, i don't think anything is gonna happen... But, usually something does happen when no one is reporting it.
Wright would be nice, but I really hate Carlos Arroyo's game..
I doubt Arroyo would be relevant in such a move. He'd see mop up duty at best unless there's an injury.
I think he was doing just fine coming off the bench. Getting the start the past couple games has cooled his shooting off. Roger IMO seems to be a rythym shooter, and it doesn't take much to disrupt that.
He was outstanding in the game before that against the grizzlies, spurs would have lost that game without his heroic shot making. He has been a good defender so far this year.
Once Parker comes back, Mason will go back to his role off the bench where he was doing quite well and resume his game winning shots and you'll be back to riding his jock like a drunk college .
as much as i would like to have raja bell, he has only played 6 games all season and is coming back from a major injury. he's not going to be of any help anytime soon.
I ain't mad atcha, Raja
Still one of the best things that ever happened to Kobe. He's such a pussy he didn't even go straight at Raja.
I can't get the trade machine to work, but a scenario based on Mason to Minnesota, Jefferson and Mahinmi to Utah and Kirilenko and Ramon Sessions coming here would help, especially if we could get another SF to play spot minutes. You could even add in a CJ Miles to Memphis component of the deal with a minimum contract coming back to improve the Memphis bench and cut Utah's payroll down by about 4.5 million, Which I think is enough to get them under the tax. Utah may not do it, given how they're clicking at the moment and RJ's play this year. It's whether the money the save( ~5 million and payroll + tax benefits) would mean that they could keep Boozer and Okur and stay under. That would only happpen at the deadline, but it gives a semi small ball lineup, with AK47 at PF, or a long unit with AK at 3. He's not worth 16 million, but RJ's not worth 14 million.
Hmm, that's weird. The only things I could think of are:
Hinrich+Thomas
Arroyo+Wright
and....that's pretty much it. I can't see someone like Raja being traded here. Hopefully the "forward" in the deal is a big.
Gortat+Jason Williams?
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