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im pretty sure everyone here knows this already...
Late in the regular season, he's mediocre at best. At first I thought he's going to make some improvements, but look at him now. He's content to cash in all the money that he gets from Holt and that's it. The sad part is, everybody thought that he's going to be the player that would put us over the hump.
im pretty sure everyone here knows this already...
We got him for a 38 year old player who lost a step and fell out of our starting unit and two 30+ year old bigmen who right now combine for a whopping 12.8 MPG, 2.0 PPG, 2.5 RPG, and 0.4 BPG... Hardly a bad trade IMO.
Are you sure about that?
Sincerely,
Luis Scola
lol being the puzzle to complete the big 4
lol 14 million dollars a year
lol dynamic wing player
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lol the next bruce bowen
lol the last piece to push us past the lakers
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Who would you rather have right now Oberto and Thomas or Jefferson?
Well it's not like we gave any value back though, so I can't see how the trade in itself can be so bad. Unless you claim that this same team, without RJ, would have been a contender.
The trade was a good one, he fact that RJ hasn't yet gelled doesn't make it a bad one.
spurs didn't really give anything up for jefferson. but yeah, he sucks pretty hard right now.
is a bad fit and I understand that many Spurs fans are disappointed with his lackluster play. If you're a piece that fits badly, there's simply no way of for you to turn it around. It's also compounded that POP doesn't have any clue on how to use him. More than anything else, it's all mental for him from hereon. He's young, very athletic, and quite talented. He simply just doesn't have the mental toughness that can bring his game to another level
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RJ has to go...
True, he hasn't been too good, but it's premature to say he can't turn it around. In all honesty, his offense hasn't been that disappointing, it's his defense that has been the huge problem. That said, even if the Spurs knew he wouldn't be a good fit, they'd probably still do the trade if only for the talent upgrade.It's not like we could have had the $14 mil to use on another player, is it?
I only hope their ( the FO ) disappointment an desperation doesn't force them into acquiring another bad contract, in order to get rid of RJ or in search for a quick fix. I'd rather they stay pat than overreact.
worst trade no scola by far
It's mainly due to the lack of a pass-first guard that Jefferson currently sucks IMHO. TL is unarguably a great player but his attacking skills/abilities makes up more of his greatness than his abilities of assisting teammates to score. before a transfer bid was tossed for Jefferson there should have been a insightful discussion with great scrutiny about Jefferson's fitness, but the only thing on the minds Spurs officials last summer was simply that the team would be upgraded drastically only if a big name was landed. Spurs took action fast enough and managed to wrap up Jefferson before any other team could ever set a hand in...
ostentatiously the Jefferson deal was a bad one for Spurs. Spurs are definitely better with Jefferson now than with the craps traded for him, but it's still a bad trade because those expiring craps could have used more wisely and landed someone fitting Spurs in SA, who subsequently could have made Spurs better than they currently are. None of the three vets was useful as a player at the moment they got traded, but their contracts are quite invaluable to the teams seeking financial relief.
Not familiar with the original poster but his ways of interneting lead to believe he's ESL
Not bad esl but esl none the less
All they gave up was tons of cap space for the best free agent class of all time.
A retired Bruce Bowen >>> Jefferson.
Right now Jefferson would make maybe $100K on a mediocre Euroleague team.
He would get no playing time in a Obradovic, Ivanovic, Gershon, Messina or Scariolo's team.
That's for sure.
Which brings up the relevant issue.
Why is he playing at all?
Whose fault it that?
Right now, I would definitely rather have Oberto and Thomas with their expiring deals than be stuck with RJ. They would have been very good pieces to trade for a cap starved team or to free up space for the end of the year.
Saying that, I don't fault management since it was a no-brainer trade. I just wonder how RJ and everyone would produce outside a Pop system. Seems like FAs tend to have a hard time meshing into his system to the point that they aren't the same player they were before they came.
Shooting better than Manu
True, they didn't want to dip their hands in the free agent class next year so they did it this year. Sure, there is no assurance that they will be landing any big name next year but with their acquisition of Jefferson means they already lost in the sweepstakes even before it starts
it's nonetheless
LOL @ people slamming the FO for the trade, there wasn't a spurs fan on this board who wasn't happy with it at the time.
You don't believe LeBron, Wade or Bosh would come to SA, though, do you? At best we would have had a shot at the 2nd group of players, however, with the impending lockout and big changes in the CBA in 2011, including a potential hard cap being introduced, I don't think it'd be too smart of any team to tie their hands with a long term expensive contract to a player who is not a superstar.
I think a lot of the available money in the summer will not be used, which could lead a lot of good players to sign 1-year deals and wait for the new CBA.I don't count the superstars, of course, they'll get their money, but it'd have been unlikely that any of them would have come to SA even if there was cap space available.
At least the Spurs get a big fat expiring next year.
This is a nice silver lining out of it all.
With the uncertainty and talks of hard caps teams will look to be dumping contracts. SA isn't exactly a huge FA destination so the Spurs can cash in on a big name this way...y'all may be thanking RJ when it's all said and done.
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