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    I was having a discussion with one of my co-workers the other day about this and we were talking about how that hard work doesn't pay off in life. We also agreed that to get ahead in life, you have to have connections, wealth, and/or luck. Does hard work really pay off in life? And how about giving your best effort all the time? Does that really mean anything? Just look at American politics. People always say bull like "if you really work hard and do your best, you could wind up as governor or president". In reality, you probably won't unless you come from a family of wealth and/or have connections. Look at the history of presidents in America. How many of them were average joes?
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    Wow this sound almost like this ing post you did like 5 mins ago.

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145939

    If you work hard at being patience, then you would have seen the reply.
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    don't ever underestimate the power of nepotism sons, Arnold Schwarzenegger wasn't a politician before he seduced and married Kennedy's niece IMHO.
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    Sounds like a couple of people making excuses for their lack of success due to a lack of effort.
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    Working hard with connections will get you further than having connections but not working hard.

    Working hard without connections will get you further than not working hard and not having connections.

    Doesn't matter whether or not connections without hard work will get you further than hard work without connections. Whatever your personal situation is, it improves with hard work.

    Now quit ing and get back to work.
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    The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it. --John Ruskin
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    Working hard with connections will get you further than having connections but not working hard.

    Working hard without connections will get you further than not working hard and not having connections.

    Doesn't matter whether or not connections without hard work will get you further than hard work without connections. Whatever your personal situation is, it improves with hard work.

    Now quit ing and get back to work.


    I work hard, but play hard too.
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    Not really

    It depends on what you are working hard at.

    Working hard at a dead end job will get you nowhere.

    Working hard at building your own business will get you where you want to be
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    Yes with regards to education. High school and college are the key points in life to work hard to learn all you can.
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    if you have a plan for success and work hard at it, you will succeed.

    you have to work hard at making yourself more valuable to an employer and you have to work for an employer that has numerous growth opportunities.

    if your plan is just to work hard and see what happens, then your not calling the shots in your life and yeah, it's up to dumb luck and who you know at that point.
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    Hmm. I never knew you could pay bills with "at a boy"s.
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    The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it. --John Ruskin
    well, seems like i didn't learn anything by avoiding the toil, but it sure is hard to care with all this luxury around me!
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    Working hard and smart works. Working hard for other people's benefit who could easily cut you out like so many people do for years is foolish.

    Working hard at something you love doing no longer feels like work.
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    Not really

    It depends on what you are working hard at.

    Working hard at a dead end job will get you nowhere.

    Working hard at building your own business will get you where you want to be
    Since not working hard at that dead end job will probably get you fired, you're still better off working hard.
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    well, seems like i didn't learn anything by avoiding the toil, but it sure is hard to care with all this luxury around me!
    You are hands down the biggest on this website........good job.
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    Work smarter, not harder is my motto.
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    You are hands down the biggest on this website........good job.
    I challenge that notion. Prove it or be taken a fool!

    *lays back on my expensive chair*
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    I challenge that notion. Prove it or be taken a fool!

    *lays back on my expensive chair*
    Is it made out of rich mahogany?
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    work smarter, not harder is my motto.
    +1
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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    I'd also say it's been my experience that if you want to "get ahead" in your career, forget trying to move up the ladder with your current employer.

    Unless you are remingtonbo, to get a promotion you almost always have to move out.
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    I'd also say it's been my experience that if you want to "get ahead" in your career, forget trying to move up the ladder with your current employer.

    Unless you are remingtonbo, to get a promotion you almost always have to move out.
    No joke!

    Bo has a magnetic personality ( which goes great with his kind heart). Everybody loves him.

    I belonged to our church for several years before Bo came.
    But within weeks of his attending there, I had become known as " the girl with Bo"- instead of vice versa, as might be expected since I had been around longer.
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    Working hard at something you love doing no longer feels like work.
    this.
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    Hard work DOES pay off.

    It's Natural Law.

    It's just that the payment you seek may not always match the payment you produce. If it's not paying off, you are not working hard enough.

    You also have to get broken to build, wait wut?
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    Hard work pays off - Agree or Disagree?
    Depends.

    If you are in a union job, and outshine your co-workers, they will find a way to retaliate. Besides, in a union, you don't get raises by merit.

    Non-Union jobs... Definitely. Hard work pays, unless you are with the few rare employers who don't recognize hard workers. Best find a new job anyway then, because they will doom themselves to failure.

    UNIONS ARE FOR LAZY PUSSIES!
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