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    I would love the Salmons trade if it's followed up by a trade for a big man..I've been watching a lot of Bulls basketball the past few weeks and he's a pretty good defender, definitely better than any of our non-Hill defenders..he's not a shut-down guy in any way at all, not a top defender, but I don't think we're going to find a shut-down perimeter defender anywhere..his offense has heavily regressed though, that would be the concern..he shoots the 3 at 40% though, so I have no doubt that he would fit from a stylistic standpoint..

    If we can get Thomas too, I would be very, very happy..I wouldn't expect something that big though, so I would be happy with Salmons + Turiaf or somebody else of that nature..I'm not expecting a guy like Haywood anymore, although that would be a pleasant surprise..

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    As far as just improving the team and giving them the ability to put their best foot forward (they're not winning a Championship having a seed in the 4-6 range and they no longer have arguably the best, most dominant player in the game), Tyrus and Salmons is still the package that makes the most sense to me.

    But if you can't get it without using Manu, you go a different route.

    Turiaf and Watson was my guess when this rumor started, and Ronny is actually growing on me more and more. It's not so much that I've been impressed with what I've seen from him when healthy, there's been a noticeable fall-off from last year, but his energy and enthusiasm are some intangible factors that the locker room could benefit from; this thing's gone stale and he could be a breath of fresh air.

    If he should find the type of game he had last year, he could be a pretty decent coup. He's definitely got a nice complimentary offensive skillset when he's right and, while not a great defender, he's a pretty capable shotblocker and deterrent at the rim.

    Salmons and Turiaf would actually be pretty decent (Tyrus is still my first choice of all these role-playing types, though).

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    need trade now. time is running out for new players to be integrated.

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    I would love the Salmons trade if it's followed up by a trade for a big man..I've been watching a lot of Bulls basketball the past few weeks and he's a pretty good defender, definitely better than any of our non-Hill defenders..he's not a shut-down guy in any way at all, not a top defender, but I don't think we're going to find a shut-down perimeter defender anywhere..his offense has heavily regressed though, that would be the concern..he shoots the 3 at 40% though, so I have no doubt that he would fit from a stylistic standpoint..

    If we can get Thomas too, I would be very, very happy..I wouldn't expect something that big though, so I would be happy with Salmons + Turiaf or somebody else of that nature..I'm not expecting a guy like Haywood anymore, although that would be a pleasant surprise..
    I like all those too. If we can't get a blockbuster then there are smaller trades that can help us out just as much.

    Would you give up Splitter if that is what it took to get Haywood?

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    i wouldnt trade splitter for haywood period

    I havent gave up on jefferson yet but I would take jamison over him

    ian,finley,jefferson for jamison and haywood would work and I would take that

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    I'm all for a trade, but why do I feel like nothing is going to happen or if it does it will leave us all scratching our heads?

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    I also wonder if spurs would trade iguodala for jefferson straight up and trade finley,bonner, and mihninmi for camby and trade masons and bogan for bell bring up hairston and sign a player that gets bought out later this season(gooden like last year)

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    I also wonder if spurs would trade iguodala for jefferson straight up and trade finley,bonner, and mihninmi for camby and trade masons and bogan for bell bring up hairston and sign a player that gets bought out later this season(gooden like last year)
    Thats realistic.

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    Thats realistic.
    there thoughts but could be realistic if spurs continue to stuggle

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    manu for amare

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    it's only disastrous to trade manu because Spurs would have to brain on court with Manu gone even though Manu is now quite a mediocre player compared to his teammates in terms of skills and athleticism. That's why i've long advocated a trade targetted at Hedo Turkoglu who will carry on what Manu does and even functions better with skills and athleticism both superior to Manu's.

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    why not trade you yourself for Lebron, which does make awesome sense to you IMHO.

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    there thoughts but could be realistic if spurs continue to stuggle
    lolwut?

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    there thoughts but could be realistic if spurs continue to stuggle
    They will stuggle for the rest of the season.

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    SO now that stoudemire isn't going to opt out, wouldn't they save money if we traded them Jefferson? Throw in mason and the rights to splitter...
    They don't want any 2011 contracts for Stoudemire, they want expirings AND either good young talent (read Hill and/or Blair) or good picks (we don't have any).

    Phoenix WANTED him to opt out. They're pissed, which is why they're moving him. They won't take a bad contract like RJeff, though. They'd rather lose him for nothing.

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    I can't see us getting Salmons for Bonner and the ghost of Michael Finley. To me, Salmons is actually a decent player. Does he have a bad contract?

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    I can't see us getting Salmons for Bonner and the ghost of Michael Finley. To me, Salmons is actually a decent player. Does he have a bad contract?
    He signed a 5 yr 25.5 million dollar deal back in 06. I think thats a pretty damn good contract for his production. The Bulls have big plans for this summers free agency and would like to free up as much cap as they can. But trading a good player away like Salmons is risky if ur not sure that u can sign a big free agent this summer.

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    I can't see us getting Salmons for Bonner and the ghost of Michael Finley. To me, Salmons is actually a decent player. Does he have a bad contract?
    Matt bonner and Michael Finley are expiring contracts. Huge comodities right now, especially with the CBA coming up. Michael Finley is owed $2.5 million this season and Matt bonner is owed $3.2 Million this season. Both will be free agents next year.

    John salmons is owed $5.456 million this season and $5.808 million next season.

    Bulls get some cap space and save about $250k this season if they buy them both out, Spurs take on basically a 2 year contract of $11.2 million, just about $200k more than what we are paying both Bonner and Finley combined if theoretically extended through next season. (exclaimer, been drinking, math could be off by a few hundred thousand, not sure if I thought it through correctly )

    Just saying it could happen if Chicago is looking to clear some space.
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    Salmons isn't part of Chicago's plans at all, they've been looking to move him all season..his offense hasn't been the same as last season, he really needs a change of scenery..

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    We need someone who is like that John Wayne toilet paper- rough and tough and don't take from nobody. I really miss the days when Bowen and Horry were called dirty players... Ahhh, the good old days.

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    Trading Bonner and Finley for Salmons and then giving Theo Ratliff some minutes as that other big would be a great scenario IMO.

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    Minor trade that might not excite a lot of people but I think would help the Spurs a lot is Roger Mason jr for Nick Young and Javale Mcgee.
    I don't know if Young and Mcgee r in Flips doghouse but they both seem to stuck at the end of the bench. Wizards get a hometown high character player and an expiring contract.
    I love the player Young could become which might help w/ a change of scenery and Mcgee is a ligit 7 footer who can get up and block shots and could contribute in an area we need.

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    http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=356913


    It's likely nothing more than some speculation but...
    Dear God, let it be.

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    You don't like the Salmons trade, Senor?..or you meant let it be, as in let it happen?..

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    You don't like the Salmons trade, Senor?..or you meant let it be, as in let it happen?..
    I meant, please God, let it happen.

    That would be like killing two birds with one stone. I've always wanted the Spurs to acquire, or should I say re-acquire Salmons - seeing as how they originally drafted him and all. In trading for Salmons AND getting rid of Finley at the same time, would be like Christmas and New Years Eve all in one day.

    "C'mon make my day."

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