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See last year's Spurs.
Did you forget to mention the best PF of all time or was that coincidence.
See last year's Spurs.
Well I assume there is no argument on CP3 and Deron Williams.
Billups has been carrying the Nuggets and completely turned around that franchise since he got there. Hes also got the finals MVP that Parker has, if thats relevant at all.
Rondo impresses me every time I see him. A great passer, scorer and defender. To me, he is clearly a better overall point guard than Parker. He can score for himself and set others up. And he can switch between the two modes (scorer and passer) at will. I was watching one game and he had like 11 assist in the first half and then like 20 points in the second half.
The only argument for me is Rose vs. Parker. Even though Rose will clearly be the better player by as early as next year, for me Parker is better now.
PG rankings:
CP3
Deron Williams
Billups
Rondo
Nash
Parker
Kidd
Rose
You mean the one that had the entire second half of his season de-railed by PF? The injury that the best PF of all time said "crippled" him?
Tony Parker's supporting cast is so much better than Rose's. Shut up. You mention Bonner and Finley and fail to mention one of the greatest players of all time (Tim Duncan).
You sound like a Lakers fan when an argument about Kobe vs. LeBron occurs. Kobe's supporting cast is clearly better, but Laker fans fail to accept that. And now you are saying the Spurs are not better than the Bulls as far as talent. Give me a break. The best scorer on the Bulls is John freaking Salmons.
...who broke down to basically a great role player by season's end? Did you forget that the Spurs' leading scorer from the previous year missed the majority of the season?
That is laughable and why don't you ask your fellow Pistons fans if they agree. To say something like CB is way better does not merit a response imo.
Billups - 15.1 ppg, 5.6 apg, 1 spg .416 FG %
Parker - 16.7 ppg, 5.6 apg, 1 spg .490 FG%
And Billups is way better?
Dude Rose schooled Tony Parker a couple weeks ago. He got to the rim at will. How can Spur fans forget that? I bet you I can find a highlight reel of that.
I usually never get in an argument with Spurs fans because for the most part they are not crazy homers like other teams' fan bases.
That's a horrible take. If Parker can lead put his team on his back, take over and win tons of games basically by himself, and take a ty Spurs team with a 50% Duncan and barely any Gino to the #3 seed, IN THE WESTERN CONFERENCE, you don't think he could've taken Rose's Bulls, who barely were around .500, playing in the Eastern conference where only 3 teams were relevant, to a better record? You're seriously kidding yourself and it's quite obvious that you're an anti-Parker troll.
I thought is was Rose? Tim Duncan was a non-factor the entire 2nd half of the season.
Yes, the Spurs had Tim, but does that make up for starting Bonner & Mason? Then having Finley as your next most consistent player?
Parker pretty much is the offensive system nowThe "system" works because of TP's abilities, not the other way around.
Is that why they've gone 4-3 without him and in those 7 games George Hill put up point totals of 22, 11, 23, 17, 18, 18, and 15, good for an average of 17.7, which is more than Parker?
Should I post TP's numbers compared to Billups head-to-head? I assure you it is more domination that a one game sample size that you put up when Rose is beating a hobbled TP.
When you factor in defense, yes.
You have the dumbest arguments known to man. Even for a troll.Is that why they've gone 4-3 without him and in those 7 games George Hill put up point totals of 22, 11, 23, 17, 18, 18, and 15, good for an average of 17.7, which is more than Parker
You should know its not all about stats. Is Marcus Camby a better defensive player than Tim Duncan? Because he averages almost 13 boards per game and over 2 blocks per game this season and a few seasons back he actually averaged over 3 blcoks per game.
And Chauncey is not way better, but he is better.
What an idiot.
No. Should I post TP vs. Billups head-to-head stats?
I am done here. I have already derailed this losers attempt to troll. Move onto the next team. Maybe LA. They don't have the fans that will make you look like an idiot.
So you're saying Parker isn't the product of a system when his backup averages more PPG as the starting PG than he does?
You have yet to derail my irrefutable argument about George Hill being a better starting PG than Parker.
Frank Lucas sounds like re ed spur fan thinking Hill > Parker.
At least you back up 5 and 6, but just a "no" to Derrick Rose? He made the all star game for a reason this year. The Bulls started off very slow so maybe that skews your judgment but just watch the kid play. He takes over games with his drives to the basket.
The main argument for Tony Parker being an elite PG is his speed and his ability to get to the basket. Derrick Rose might be just as good as Tony Parker in that category already.
I agree with Nash. I am not a big fan of his either. Just wanted to prove my point.
But Rondo vs Parker is pretty debatable. Both have similar offensive games. (Poor shooters but superior drivers), but I think that Rondo is way better on defense.
To say Parker is a poor shooter is re ed, have you watched Spurs games the last year and a half?
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