Official Trade Deadline Speculation Thread

[MaNu4Tres]

I like Thomas as a long-term project. But he wouldn't help this season.

If Bonner were to go out in the trade proposed for Salmons and Thomas, I think Thomas would solidify the most energetic, strongest and most versatile bench the Spurs have ever had in Hill/Manu/Blair and Thomas. imo

Thomas would help a lot more than Ratliff/ Mahimni/ Bogans if that trade went through.imo

People want to really discredit his ability just because he had a fall out with his coach. That's typical though, those same fans were the fans that were against the Spurs going after Jackson in October, even though Jackson had already proved he could thrive in the Spurs system, and start for Popovich in 2003. Now he has lead the Bobcats on the path to their first playoff birth ever in franchise history. Go figure. Thomas and Jackson aren't the same players but it's the same situation with the majority of the ST members ing and exploiting a simple disagreement he had with his coach behind closed doors.

[tav1]

If the Bulls would package Thomas and Salmons for expirings, it's something the Spurs would have to look at. Maybe it doesn't get them over the hump, but it gives them a fighting chance. The best suggestion I've seen on this board is Richard Jefferson and Ian Mahinmi for Corey Maggette, Anthony Randolph and Raja Bell. Would Golden State bite? Hmmm.

With each game Richard Jefferson shows that he's just not a good fit. It's impossible to show, but I don't think it's his skill set. I think it's a mental thing. His flashes of good play suggest that physically it could work. His inconsistency tells me that the dots just aren't connecting for him.

[HarlemHeat37]

Anthony Randolph is out for the season..also, while I love his game and would love him here, he would probably have the same problem as Thomas when it comes to Pop's doghouse..


I haven't looked at the contracts or anything, so I'm just thinking off the top of my head, I think a deal with Miami for Haslem/Wright would be a good trade for the Spurs IMO..again, I haven't looked at the contracts or numbers though, so I don't know if it's realistic..they aren't sexy names, but they would fit here IMO..

[CGD]

Anthony Randolph is out for the season..also, while I love his game and would love him here, he would probably have the same problem as Thomas when it comes to Pop's doghouse..


I haven't looked at the contracts or anything, so I'm just thinking off the top of my head, I think a deal with Miami for Haslem/Wright would be a good trade for the Spurs IMO..again, I haven't looked at the contracts or numbers though, so I don't know if it's realistic..they aren't sexy names, but they would fit here IMO..

Acquiring Haslem would be AWESOME. It would be the type of move that could help right away, but I highly doubt Miami would trade one of their crucial glue guys (plus Riles LOVES him). That said, he's in the last year of his deal which pays him about 7M this year.

[MaNu4Tres]

I haven't looked at the contracts or anything, so I'm just thinking off the top of my head, I think a deal with Miami for Haslem/Wright would be a good trade for the Spurs IMO..again, I haven't looked at the contracts or numbers though, so I don't know if it's realistic..they aren't sexy names, but they would fit here IMO..

Good idea for the Spurs yes, but Wright and Haslem are part of the Heat's rotation as of now. If Heat were not contending or a playoff team, I think they would be open to attaining assets for the future for such players. But that situation is not the case. I think the only way you could pry them away from the Heat is if you sent them Ginobili or a player that could improve their chances in the playoffs NOW. I don't think they would want Bonner and Mason over Wright and Haslem. I know I wouldn't.

[timvp]

If Bonner were to go out in the trade proposed for Salmons and Thomas, I think Thomas would solidify the most energetic, strongest and most versatile bench the Spurs have ever had in Hill/Manu/Blair and Thomas. imo

Thomas would help a lot more than Ratliff/ Mahimni/ Bogans if that trade went through.imo

People want to really discredit his ability just because he had a fall out with his coach. That's typical though, those same fans were the fans that were against the Spurs going after Jackson in October, even though Jackson had already proved he could thrive in the Spurs system, and start for Popovich in 2003. Now he has lead the Bobcats on the path to their first playoff birth ever in franchise history. Go figure. Thomas and Jackson aren't the same players but it's the same situation with the majority of the ST members ing and exploiting a simple disagreement he had with his coach behind closed doors.

Personally, I don't care about Ty's issues with Del Negro. I think Del Negro is a joke of a coach.

I just don't see how he'd help this season. Outside of blocks and spurts of rebounding, he's a poor defensive player. He doesn't like to bang, isn't a very good post defense ... in fact, he has said he likes playing SF more than PF.

In the long run, I think the Spurs could mold him into a solid player. But as it stands, I think McDyess and Blair will be better players for at least the duration of this season.

[ElNono]

Some trades would be addition by subtraction: Like ejecting Finley, Mason and even Bonner or Bogans, which would ensure more playing time for Blair, Hill, Ratliff and whoever else we add.

Obviously, there's the chance this brings more small ball... so...

[HarlemHeat37]

Just throwing it out there..I just checked and they're both expiring, so that's tougher and would probably make it tough without giving actual players..

I don't think winning is a big deal though tbh..Miami is spiraling out of the playoffs right now..they've lost 5 in a row and have been horrible for the last few weeks..Wade looks like he isn't giving any effort at all..combine that with the Bucks getting hot, and there's a good chance Miami misses out on the playoffs either way..

[Chieflion]

Just throwing it out there..I just checked and they're both expiring, so that's tougher and would probably make it tough without giving actual players..

I don't think winning is a big deal though tbh..Miami is spiraling out of the playoffs right now..they've lost 5 in a row and have been horrible for the last few weeks..Wade looks like he isn't giving any effort at all..combine that with the Bucks getting hot, and there's a good chance Miami misses out on the playoffs either way..

Not really. Salmons might opt-in with his player option if he thinks he is not going to get a good deal. And the cap hold on Tyrus Thomas is ridiculous.

[MaNu4Tres]

Personally, I don't care about Ty's issues with Del Negro. I think Del Negro is a joke of a coach.

I just don't see how he'd help this season. Outside of blocks and spurts of rebounding, he's a poor defensive player. He doesn't like to bang, isn't a very good post defense ... in fact, he has said he likes playing SF more than PF.

In the long run, I think the Spurs could mold him into a solid player. But as it stands, I think McDyess and Blair will be better players for at least the duration of this season.

I don't think Thomas would unseat Blair and McDyess either. Actually I think the only big man out there that is that significantly better to really unseat the two is Amare. I think McDyess and Blair have been really productive and I don't see Haywood, Thomas, Turiaf, Camby putting a dent into McDyess and Blair's minutes if we acquired any of them. If they did put a dent in their minutes then I'd question if that would actually improve the team because Blair has been as productive as you can ask for a bench player and McDyess has been playing great the past month.

I like the trade mostly because of having Salmons playing 25-30 minutes over the Bogans/ Finley/Mason combination and him having some of Jefferson's minutes whenever he is in a funk. Thomas is just the cherry on top. Thomas may be a poor post up defender on the block, but he is a very active defender in his own right and has the ability to contest shots off the ball very effectively. I think Thomas would make us more versatile and better than having Bonner for the 4th big spot in the rotation.

[MaNu4Tres]

Not really. Salmons might opt-in with his player option if he thinks he is not going to get a good deal. And the cap hold on Tyrus Thomas is ridiculous.

He's talking about Haslem and Wright.

[Chieflion]

He's talking about Haslem and Wright.

Haslem is declining, just about anyone s on him. Wright, I don't know. I think he still doesn't get it. These two guys suck. The few reasons why a team led by Wade can't even get a winning record.

[TJastal]

I like Thomas as a long-term project. But he wouldn't help this season.

C'mon Timvp.. all we've been talking about for weeks is the spurs' lack of defense this year. Thomas could instantly provide relief to what is ailing this team.

And Thomas isn't break the bank expensive and is available RIGHT NOW. He could be had! As someone mentioned, he would have very strong role models and mentors (Dice/Duncan/Ratliff) to help his emotional maturity. Don't discount that.

Thomas could help this year but only IF Pop used him correctly. This spurs' team is literally dying for a young defensive mobile PF/C who can block/alter shots. Ratliff is too old to bring that kind of energy and impact and Mahinmi lacks the experience. Thomas is just right IMO.

I have been raving about the Blair / Bonner backup combo from an offensive standpoint but I'm getting a strong feeling both these guys are going to be less effective as we head into the later stages of the year and playoffs. Playoff rotations are going to be tightened, the defensive intensity amped up and these guys are going struggle. Teams are already learning how to exploit Blair's lack of footspeed and size and will always pick on Bonner's lack of defense. One or the other needs to go if an opportunity presents itself.

And an oppportunity has presented itself. Enter Tyrus Thomas, who you can instantly put into the rotation as a big to pair up with Duncan, or as the 1st big off the bench. He helps anchor that 2nd unit defensively (or allows McDyess to if TT starts alongside Duncan).

I would give up either Bonner or Blair, Splitter/picks/Mason .. anything short of the big 3 and Hill to get this guy in, I think he could have a phenomenal impact on the spurs' defense.

[MaNu4Tres]

C'mon Timvp.. all we've been talking about for weeks is the spurs' lack of defense this year. Thomas could instantly provide relief to what is ailing this team.

And Thomas isn't break the bank expensive and is available RIGHT NOW. He could be had! As someone mentioned, he would have very strong role models and mentors (Dice/Duncan/Ratliff) to help his emotional maturity. Don't discount that.

Thomas could help this year but only IF Pop used him correctly. This spurs' team is literally dying for a young defensive mobile PF/C who can block/alter shots. Ratliff is too old to bring that kind of energy and impact and Mahinmi lacks the experience. Thomas is just right IMO.

I have been raving about the Blair / Bonner backup combo from an offensive standpoint but I'm getting a strong feeling both these guys are going to be less effective as we head into the later stages of the year and playoffs. Playoff rotations are going to be tightened, the defensive intensity amped up and these guys are going struggle. Teams are already learning how to exploit Blair's lack of footspeed and size and will always pick on Bonner's lack of defense. One or the other needs to go if an opportunity presents itself.

And an oppportunity has presented itself. Enter Tyrus Thomas, who you can instantly put into the rotation as a big to pair up with Duncan, or as the 1st big off the bench. He helps anchor that 2nd unit defensively (or allows McDyess to if TT starts alongside Duncan).

I would give up either Bonner or Blair, Splitter/picks/Mason .. anything short of the big 3 and Hill to get this guy in, I think he could have a phenomenal impact on the spurs' defense.

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[Sean Cagney]

Bahahhaahhah really close to a deal, that announcer was dead wrong, they aren't doing shyt. What you see is what you get.

[HarlemHeat37]

This guy on a Bulls forum that has "inside sources" is saying that a deal is close for Tyrus Thomas + James Johnson for Brendan Haywood..this guy has been right on deals before, so should be interesting to see if it actually happens..

[Chillen]

This guy on a Bulls forum that has "inside sources" is saying that a deal is close for Tyrus Thomas + James Johnson for Brendan Haywood..this guy has been right on deals before, so should be interesting to see if it actually happens..

Wow, Noah and Haywood would free up the paint for road runner "derrick rose". It makes the Bulls taller, but Thomas is a high energy guy, still that would be a good deal for both teams.

[Chillen]

Bahahhaahhah really close to a deal, that announcer was dead wrong, they aren't doing shyt. What you see is what you get.

yeah, I come in here to see and it's about the Bulls doing a trade, thread le should be changed to "Spurs really aren't that close to a deal?.."

[mountainballer]

This guy on a Bulls forum that has "inside sources" is saying that a deal is close for Tyrus Thomas + James Johnson for Brendan Haywood..this guy has been right on deals before, so should be interesting to see if it actually happens..

wow, Wizards would get tons of potential in return. they would be crazy not to pull the trigger on such an offer, even if they would add another problematic character. (they would try even harder to ship Blatche in another deal)
Johnson was a disappointment till now, but he also doesn't get a lot of minutes behind Deng, TT, and Gibson. this kid still has enormous potential.
I can see why the Bulls do it short term. they are a borderline PO team right now and Haywood would increase their chances. but long term? they likely can't re sign Haywood anyhow, if they want to make a big play for Bosh, Wade or Lebron.
(Haywood could become a S&T asset though)

[HarlemHeat37]

If they do acquire him, it's always possible that they do have some interest in keeping him long-term..freeing up Hinrich and/or Salmons would help with the salaries for next year, like what has been rumored for the last few weeks..

It should be interesting to see..

[Chieflion]

If they do acquire him, I would assume that they have some interest in keeping him long-term..so they would probably be aggressively looking to move Hinrich and/or Salmons I would assume..wouldn't moving Hinrich save enough to potentially keep Haywood and still acquire a Bosh or Wade?..they'll probably be looking to move Salmons either way, like what has been rumored for a while now..

It should be interesting to see..

I would love Hinrich, but it would jam up the backcourt. He is another guy who would cling on to the other team's best perimeter offensive player and make it for him to score.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm not interested in a Hinrich deal, I'm just saying they've been rumored to be moving him for a while now..

[Chieflion]

I'm not interested in a Hinrich deal, I'm just saying they've been rumored to be moving him for a while now..

Maybe the Spurs could help the bulls move Hinrich in a 3 team deal or something. We have seen weirder things near the trade deadline.

[mountainballer]

Hinrich is a decent player, but he would almost exactly duplicate what the Spurs get from Hill. for 9 million per year. (yes, he is more experienced and a better playmaker)
I can't see where the minutes for either Tony, Hill, Hinrich and Manu would come from. this could be solved, if you trade either Manu or Hill (plus several fillers) for Hinrich. Spurs wouldn't be a much better team after this trade, if at all.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't think they'll be able to move him anyways..he's a nice player that can do multiple things at a good level, but his price tag is too high for what he brings..they'll probably be stuck with him, which means they might feel obligated to move Salmons for a lesser offer than what he's worth IMO..