Reggie Miller : "LeBron James would make the Lakers a better team than Kobe does"

[MiamiHeat]

Actually he was. He leaped Larry and Magic when he became a difference maker on both sides of the court, something neither of them ever were. By 87/88 he became the only player since Wilt to top 3,000 points in a season (37 pt avg) and the first person to ever get 200 steals and 100 blocks in the same year. MVP and DPOY the next season.

100% accurate. Jordan was seen as the best in the NBA before he ever won a le. Heck, even in his 2nd year, Bird was already claiming MJ's greatness. It was apparent to see from the get-go that Michael Jordan was a very, very special player.

Also, about defense, Jordan is arguably the greatest perimeter defender in NBA history. He could guard any PG or SG and even SF's

[kingmalaki]

Wrong again.

And Pippen remains a better perimeter defender than Jordan ever was and never receives any credit.

Right again!!!

[Killakobe81]

100% accurate. Jordan was seen as the best in the NBA before he ever won a le. Heck, even in his 2nd year, Bird was already claiming MJ's greatness. It was apparent to see from the get-go that Michael Jordan was a very, very special player.

Also, about defense, Jordan is arguably the greatest perimeter defender in NBA history. He could guard any PG or SG and even SF's

Nope.
Pippen was the better defender. and i agree he was in the conversation but MJ himself said in Barcelona in 92 that he was driven to surpass BIrd and Magic's les because they teased him for only having 1

Lebron is THE force of nature in the sport. HIS TIME WILL come.
Why the insistentce on jumping the gun?
Once he gets a le his geatness will be unquestioned for now it is by some ...deal with it.

[jacobdrj]

Except for the fact that the the ban on hand-checking was instated in 1994. MJ was already 10 years into his career, already had a 3peat, and all those magical seasons.

MJ only played 3 seasons as a Bull with no hand-checking, when he was in mid-30's.

How long was Wilt in the NBA before they enlarged the key?

[jacobdrj]

Check this. When I win my ring this year. I get to say I won without Phil Jackson. It'll furthur confirm me as the Greatest.

Bow down to The King, es.

If LeBron can win despite coach Brown, yeah, that is a pretty big deal. I'd be impressed.

[MiamiHeat]

Looks like the Lakers are exactly what we thought

really good even without kobe.

If you add LeBron, they would challenge the Jordan Bulls record of 72-10.

[TheGreatest23]

Looks like the Lakers are exactly what we thought

really good even without kobe.

If you add LeBron, they would challenge the Jordan Bulls record of 72-10.

Sons, I'd go 83-0.

Bow down to the king, es.

[stretch]

Wrong again.

And Pippen remains a better perimeter defender than Jordan ever was and never receives any credit.

you're a moron

Jordan was already widely accepted as being the best in the NBA. pretty much only magic and bird lovers, or jordan haters thought otherwise. in fact, quite a few people already had been even talking about him being the best player the league has ever seen, and he just needed a few les to cement his legacy. then after his first three-peat, he was widely considered the greatest basketball player of all time already.

[TheGreatest23]

you're a moron

Jordan was already widely accepted as being the best in the NBA. pretty much only magic and bird lovers, or jordan haters thought otherwise. in fact, quite a few people already had been even talking about him being the best player the league has ever seen, and he just needed a few les to cement his legacy. then after his first three-peat, he was widely considered the greatest basketball player of all time already.

Who cares about Jordan? I'm already better then him, and you mother ers know it.

[Killakobe81]

Looks like the Lakers are exactly what we thought

really good even without kobe.

If you add LeBron, they would challenge the Jordan Bulls record of 72-10.

And THEN get eliminated in the ECF ...if history repeats itself!! LOL

[MiamiHeat]

And THEN get eliminated in the ECF ...if history repeats itself!! LOL

son, LeBron has never played with the talent like Kobe has

Shaq in his prime
Gasol/Odom/etc...

LeBron would own the nba if he had the teams kobe has been on.

[MiamiHeat]

you're a moron

Jordan was already widely accepted as being the best in the NBA. pretty much only magic and bird lovers, or jordan haters thought otherwise. in fact, quite a few people already had been even talking about him being the best player the league has ever seen, and he just needed a few les to cement his legacy. then after his first three-peat, he was widely considered the greatest basketball player of all time already.

+100

Jordan won a Defensive player of the year before Pippen ever started for an NBA team. Pippen never won one.

fact is, MJ tutored Pippen and groomed him to be his sidekick from DAY ONE of Pippen being drafted. MJ taught him both sides of the ball, so Pippen learned to be good,

but let's not get confused here.. Michael Jordan is arguably the greatest perimeter defender in NBA history.

[TheMACHINE]

son, LeBron has never played with the talent like Kobe has

Shaq in his prime
Gasol/Odom/etc...

LeBron would own the nba if he had the teams kobe has been on.

and then when Lebron wins with talent like Kobes teamates, we can all say that lebron is just like Kobe...cant win without great teamates right?

[MiamiHeat]

and then when Lebron wins with talent like Kobes teamates, we can all say that lebron is just like Kobe...cant win without great teamates right?

every situation is different, we got to see it play out before we can judge.

kobe's book has already been written. 14 years in the nba, he's gonna shut it down within 4 years, he won't be able to take anymore and his knees will go out.

1 mvp in 14 seasons
1 finals mvp
4 rings
2 scoring les

he's good, but not all time great type of good. he's not in the top tier, i'd say he is in 3rd tier players.

top tier is MJ and Wilt
2nd tier is guys like magic, bird, kareem, shaq, duncan, etc
3rd tier - this is where kobe's at.

[Sportcamper]

Even with Shaq by his side…It is doubtful that Le Bron will win an NBA le until he joins the Lakers…This could happen…

[Killakobe81]

LOL this thread ..."There is a thin line ...between love & hate"

Guys comparing Wilt that never ever seen him play ...ROFL

Bird better than Kobe CROFL ...

The Lebron has never played with similar talent level doesnt mean crap. MJ NEVER played with Kareem, Worthy etc or MchAle DJ and Parish yet he still won 6 ...

When Lebron wins at least two les he will be on the same tier otherwise he is a regular season wonder. Even one le is not enough Pierce,Billups and Wade have those.

BUT when he does i will be driving the Lebron bus he may end up the GOAT (since 1980) ...

[j.dizzle]

Sons, in the past few years Bron/Cavs are like the NBA version of Peyton Manning/Colts...Him & his teammates have great regular seasons & look like its their year & then get stomped out. He actually has good teammates but they just fold under pressure in big playoff games. Lebron plays well though but too many 1 on 5 games, we'll see how shaq responds.

[MiamiHeat]

Manning has never had an elite defense, or even close to it.

[mindcrime]

every situation is different, we got to see it play out before we can judge.

kobe's book has already been written. 14 years in the nba, he's gonna shut it down within 4 years, he won't be able to take anymore and his knees will go out.

1 mvp in 14 seasons
1 finals mvp
4 rings
2 scoring les

he's good, but not all time great type of good. he's not in the top tier, i'd say he is in 3rd tier players.

top tier is MJ and Wilt
2nd tier is guys like magic, bird, kareem, shaq, duncan, etc
3rd tier - this is where kobe's at.

As a Kings fan I don't like Bryant but seriously? 3rd tier?

[Killakobe81]

As a Kings fan I don't like Bryant but seriously? 3rd tier?

The intelligence level of this thread alone has set back western civilization 200 years ...