Jefferson is a tier two athlete at this point, which is typical for late twenties guys with roughly a decade spent in the league (Maggette, Richardson, etc.). He's not in that freakishly athletic category with (off the top of my head; I could be missing a few): Smith, Rondo, Rose, Thomas, James, Gay, Westbrook, Howard, Iguodala and Stoudemire.
There's different types of athletic, though: There is the ultra quick, wiry strong athletic (Rondo, Thomas, Gay, Westbrook, Iguodala), then there's the guys who combine that with brute force (James, Howard, Stoudemire) and then there's the guys who are strictly more on the brute force side. Jefferson falls more into the latter category.
In terms of running and jumping, he can still do it at a near elite level, as evidenced by a few of the vicious throw downs this season and three games ago when he absolutely skied for a few rebounds, but it's defensively where his diminished lateral quickness is glaring.
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Jefferson is still a very good leaper, but that's where the athleticism ends with him..he's not that fast/quick anymore, and he no longer has ANY lateral quickness at all..injuries killed his lateral quickness..
You can't play perimeter defense without lateral quickness..
Knicks discuss deal for McGrady
By Adrian Wojnarowski
The Houston Rockets are in the discussion stages of a complicated, three-team trade that would send Tracy McGrady to the New York Knicks, sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The centerpieces of the trade would include the Washington Wizards shipping forward Caron Butler and center Brendan Haywood to the Rockets. The Knicks would send Al Harrington to the Wizards. For the Wizards’ part, they would still need another player, as well as a draft pick and cash to make this a workable scenario, sources said.
Other players and contracts would still need to be agreed upon for a deal to come together, but there is a framework to the discussions.
The Rockets have been peddling McGrady’s expiring contract of $23 million since exiling him in late December.
the Amare to Miami rumors are becomming louder and louder. if this one goes down, many other pieces might start to fall. if Amare goes to Miami, I do think there could be a chance to get Haslem. (I still think this is a good idea).
there is a DJ Augustin for Big Baby rumor. would be a great deal long term for the Celtics.
Links? Sources?
Here's an article from Woj:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
Ignore. For some odd reason I thought he said " Amare to SA rumors getting louder and louder." - Thanks for making me look like an idiot iphone.
Interesting. I looked at a 3-way possibility with the same two teams and the Spurs several days ago.
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=5429979
wtf? The rockets getting Butler would make them a tougher team in the playoffs...
Oh yeah and there's Haywood.. This trade would make the spurs the 3rd best team in Texas....
:|
That trade makes no sense for Washington and New York.
As much sense as the proposed trade with Houston?
No it doesn't.
New York wants to get as far under the cap as they can get for this summer. This has been evident with the moves Donnie Walsh has made since he's taken over in 2008 . Richard Jefferson's 15 million next year doesn't comply with Walsh's intentions.
Washington would have to be getting at least a first rounder from both teams and Splitter and most likely Blair, since San Antonio is getting away with murder in the trade.
Every morning, I check this thread hoping to see some great trade for the Spurs. Maybe tomorrow. There's always hope.
Definitely put SA well behind Houston and Dallas.
you're right if the price is low, why not ? it cannot be worst with him than the current situation anyway.
If this were to be the case...Spurs might as well tank the season and hope for a decent lottery spot. As well as consider trading Manu's contract this year and maybe even Tony's for picks/players.
Or...at least try to get Butler and Haywood themselves if this rumor has teeth.
Sources: D.J. Augustin part of talksComment Email Print Share By Chris Brousard
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The Boston Celtics and Charlotte Bobcats are discussing a trade centered around Glen Davis and D.J. Augustin, according to league sources.
The sources cautioned that nothing is imminent, but said the clubs are having discussions.
The Bobcats have been searching for a power forward, and the 6-foot-9 Davis could be their man. The Celtics, meanwhile, have been longing for a backup point guard, and Augustin, who's fallen out of favor with Charlotte coach Larry Brown, would be more than adequate.
A straight-up trade would not work because Davis is a base-year compensation player, so other players would have to be involved to meet the financial requirements. That could be a sticking point in the deal.
While teams don't typically trade big for small, Boston is a bit aggravated with Davis, who's had a few off-the-court problems this season. Most notably, he missed the first 27 games of the season after breaking his thumb in an early morning scuffle with a friend.
The Celtics have been rumored to be exploring deals for Ray Allen, and while league sources insist the word "shopping'' is too strong, they say the shooting guard is definitely available. Few believe he'll be traded before the Feb. 18 deadline, though, because the Celtics aren't likely to get a better player in return.
There!
Last edited by I. Hustle; 02-10-2010 at 11:59 AM.
Well, we know now why you didn't go with the username I. Format.
Hey don't hate. I just copied and pasted. Were you not able to read it?
So I have not been following this thread at all, sorry if this has been dscussed before. But the rumors are everywhere that Philly is putting Iguodala's name out there and it seems to me that if a team is willing to take on Brands ridiculous contract they can get Iguodala for basically nothing... That being said would it be worth Brands terrible contract to get Iggy and rid ourselves of Jefferson? I was playing around on the trade machine and ginobili/jefferson for brand and iggy works. Jefferson or Manu plus mason/bonner/dice also works. And depending on how desperate Philly is, we could possibly do Manu/jefferson/RMJ for Brand/Iggy/Thaddeus Young.
I really like this idea. Iggy is athletic, has the skillsets to be a great defensive player, and will only continue to get better. Brand is a unbelievably overpayed player, but next to Duncan he could throw up 12-15 and 8 every night and be okay.
Now I dont know enough about our other contracts or the cap to determine how badly a bloated 4 year contract like Brand's would hurt us in the long run. So that alone might tank this idea. I'll defer to those of you with more knowledge on it than I
It was somewhat difficult.
I would be willing to help but finding all the posts in this thread regarding Iguodala would take some time to copy and paste.So I have not been following this thread at all, sorry if this has been dscussed before. But the rumors are everywhere that Philly is putting Iguodala's name out there and it seems to me that if a team is willing to take on Brands ridiculous contract they can get Iguodala for basically nothing... That being said would it be worth Brands terrible contract to get Iggy and rid ourselves of Jefferson? I was playing around on the trade machine and ginobili/jefferson for brand and iggy works. Jefferson or Manu plus mason/bonner/dice also works. And depending on how desperate Philly is, we could possibly do Manu/jefferson/RMJ for Brand/Iggy/Thaddeus Young.
I really like this idea. Iggy is athletic, has the skillsets to be a great defensive player, and will only continue to get better. Brand is a unbelievably overpayed player, but next to Duncan he could throw up 12-15 and 8 every night and be okay.
Now I dont know enough about our other contracts or the cap to determine how badly a bloated 4 year contract like Brand's would hurt us in the long run. So that alone might tank this idea. I'll defer to those of you with more knowledge on it than I
From the top of my head...posts regarding Iguodala started at around the 8 page mark and were discussed freaquently up to about the 24 page mark.
I fixed it fool. Damn! You wanna e-fight?!
No one will take Jefferson's contract. If you will fiddle with the trade machine, don't include RJ because teams are only interested in expiring contracts.
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