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    I don't think Amare will end up on the Spurs, but one has to wonder what a force he could be on both sides of the ball if he was told to worry about defense before offense.

    Amare has never really been on a defensive minded team so this trade would be interesting. It would either wind up being a brilliant trade or a complete bust.

    Their are only two reasons we trade Manu:

    1. The Front office thinks he doesn't have much left or

    2. The Front office has a hunch Manu won't give them a hometown discount to resign because I don't think the Spurs are going to pay Manu much more than he is getting now.

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    Amare's not a defensive-minded player, but that doesn't mean he can't play defense. He's sure as a better post defender than Channing Frye.

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    2. The Front office has a hunch Manu won't give them a hometown discount to resign because I don't think the Spurs are going to pay Manu much more than he is getting now.
    More? I wouldn't give him but around half of what he's currently getting, and even that's on condition that he doesn't play for the NT any more. They've already blown two years of $10 million + on him so he could play with his NT.

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    I'd give Manu 15 mil for 3 years. Last year partial guarantee. Pretty much the same as Dice's deal. No more.

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    More? I wouldn't give him but around half of what he's currently getting, and even that's on condition that he doesn't play for the NT any more. They've already blown two years of $10 million + on him so he could play with his NT.
    Yeah, I wrote that wrong and I agree with you. Basically, if Manu wants to stay he will have to take a pay cut. If the the FO thinks he won't he may not be a spur a week from now if the right trade comes along.

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    why would the suns ever want to do this?

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    Ginobili & Jefferson for Grant Hill & Stoudemire. Does anyone know where This rumor got started?
    Somewhere jagland2003 is laughing his ass off.

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    Let Manu walk. We have to take his place...literally.

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    Ginobili/Jefferson for Hill/Stoudemire/filler? If there is ANY truth to this...I think I do it.

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    Ginobili/Jefferson for Hill/Stoudemire/filler? If there is ANY truth to this...I think I do it.
    How does getting rid of the one guy on the team that works the pick and roll well with a guy who works best in the pick and roll gonna help?

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    How does getting rid of the one guy on the team that works the pick and roll well with a guy who works best in the pick and roll gonna help?
    Because at this point, they HAVE to do SOMETHING. Anything....

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    How does getting rid of the one guy on the team that works the pick and roll well with a guy who works best in the pick and roll gonna help?
    Amare gets most of his points off isos these days, anyway. Teams have figured out how to prevent the Nash-Amare pick-and-roll deathtrap by throwing an extra defender at Amare on the roll.

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    Could you imagine Manu playin for PHO?
    Well maybe the training and conditioning staff could get Manu back in good condition just like he has with Grant Hill and some of the other guys.

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    I'd give Manu 15 mil for 3 years. Last year partial guarantee. Pretty much the same as Dice's deal. No more.
    Manu would laugh at such an offer.

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    Amare gets most of his points off isos these days, anyway. Teams have figured out how to prevent the Nash-Amare pick-and-roll deathtrap by throwing an extra defender at Amare on the roll.
    And? This is a risky strategy for teams to employ however because Nash will find the open man.

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    And? This is a risky strategy for teams to employ however because Nash will find the open man.
    But the open man is usually not as effective as Amare Stoudemire running full-steam at the basket.

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    But the open man is usually not as effective as Amare Stoudemire running full-steam at the basket.
    Gets the suns exactly what they want though, which are open uncontested shots.

    On a similar note, I haven't seen any teams that have been able to stop the Manu/Blair pick and roll. If Blair had Amare's finishing moves and didn't miss so many gimpy shots they would be just as effective as the Nash/Stoud

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    Worst trade suggestion ever

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    Comparing Manu/Blair PnR to Amare/Nash

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    Gets the suns exactly what they want though, which are open uncontested shots.

    On a similar note, I haven't seen any teams that have been able to stop the Manu/Blair pick and roll. If Blair had Amare's finishing moves and didn't miss so many gimpy shots they would be just as effective as the Nash/Stoud
    ...your on a roll, keep em coming.

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    I really cannot imagine this trade going down, cause I would imagine that manu would have to accept a contract extension with the suns before they would consider this move. I am not at all an amare fan, but the guy is an offensive machine, he can drive to it on most bigs and hit some midrange jumpshots as well.

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    Pop needs to get the team to get out and run more and Jefferson's entire game will get a boost.
    Well, there is that theory. Score 120 and lose by 10.

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    Would be a giant win for the Spurs, no way it happens.

    Lay Jefferson onto the Suns, get an expiring contract+great big man for a year

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    ah yes, because if i trust any name for sporting news its...
    ty local rappers who have been saying their major label debut will be coming out for what seems like 5 years.

    nothing to see here.

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    I'd give Manu 15 mil for 3 years. Last year partial guarantee. Pretty much the same as Dice's deal. No more.
    Yeah, that's about what I was hoping for.

    Manu would laugh at such an offer.
    Then he can laugh his butt off somewhere else. Trade him and get something for him before he walks (if he doesn't appear to be open to a reasonable sum).

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