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Just like that guy who couldn't win a le before going to boston.
If the Lakers had a internal MVP award it would have to go to Pau even with his injuries. Kobe hasn't been Kobe this season and much of it has to do with his injuries and mileage and to be honest with you I doubt we would have the 41-13 record right now w/o Pau. A Gasol-less 2009-2010 Laker team would not be near this record. Truth.
Fellow Laker fan at some point has to admit that Kobe is not the sole backbone of this Laker team. Important piece alright, but not the one and only important piece. At least that's my opinion.
Just like that guy who couldn't win a le before going to boston.
+1 lakerfan.
He is very vital. Gasol's aggressiveness is going to determine the Lakers fate in the postseason. The Gasol I have seen the past few games is the one I saw all of last year. He was all over the place on both sides and playing with such fire. Lakers need that Gasol. When Gasol/Odom are playing like that, LA is damn near impossible to beat in a 7 game series.
Lost in all this hoopla about how the Lakers are playing well without Kobe is how good of a coach Phil Jackson is. They wouldn't be playing this well without Kobe and Bynum if he wasn't so good at letting players play to their strengths.
Even Sasha has had a couple of good games.
That, in my opinion, is more impressive than what Pau is doing. If you can get that Slovenian Corpse to do something other than put product in his hair and think about Sharapova, then you've accomplished something.Even Sasha has had a couple of good games.
Kobe's impact has always been overrated. Even worse is the ridiculous notion that he was the best player of the 2000s despite the fact that he NEVER led the league in PER or win shares. , Lebron has more win shares right now(at only the half point in the season) than Kobe did in all of last year.
Then why is Phil playing Derek Fisher more minutes than Farmar? Jordan has completely outplayed Derek in January/Feb.
No it would not go to Pau Gasol. Completely ridiculous.
You have to remember Kobe has been playing banged up for some time now. When the season started and he was actually healthy he was absolutely on fire, shooting > 50% from the field. There were talks of him being the #1 MVP candidate.
Ever since his nagging finger, ankle, and back injuries he hasn't been quite the same player.
Doubtful
My opinion nonetheless.
Gasol is the MVP of the Lakers. I don't think there's any question about that, but it has taken Bryant sitting out for a lot of Laker fans to realize this.
To me it has been obvious since about a month after Gasol came to LA. His transition to the new team was phenomenal, and he was not only a perfect fit, he elevated the play of other guys with his unselfish and multi-skilled game.
Bryant, on the other hand, is a control freak and a spotlight freak. Before the Gasol trade, his future was to go no further than a conference final with "his" team. Shipping Shaquille out of town proved to be a horrible move, and it would have gone down in NBA history as one of the most selfish moves ever had the Gasol trade not bailed him out.
The Gasol trade has actually masked the biggest shortcoming of Bryant's game - his selfishness. To me, Bryant has solidified himself as a second banana. A very good second banana, but a second banana nonetheless.
Bryant isn't capable of putting a team on his back and taking them past the first round of the playoffs. That has been proven very clearly. He even missed the playoffs entirely one year after Shaquille was gone.
But when he has a skilled big man on his team, it covers Bryant's shortcomings and minimizes his selfish instincts.
You certainly won't hear Bryant say this, but Pau Gasol is the reason Bryant is even relevant anymore.
Meh, I'd rather the Lakers would have kept his tougher brother Marc.
Lakers would be better defensively and much tougher in the paint.
There's a reason why Spurfan kept calling Pau "Gasoft"; you would never say that of Marc.
LOL Marc Gasol is so overrated..
What are you saying? Phil's a horrible coach because he trusts a PG he's won 4 championships with more than a guy who at times can be extremely selfish?
Stop it man you know very well that Pau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marc
Without Pau you wouldn't have made it to the NBA finals the last two seasons.
I don't know where Allanon gets his greenery, but I would like to know the name and phone number of his dispensary. There is no way Marc is even close to being better than Pau. I wouldn't rescind this trade no way, no how. What's the record? 150-29 when Pau plays for the Lakers? I don't think for one second that we would have that record if we kept Marc instead of picking up Pau.
Pau > Marc offensively. nick-named "gaSOFT"
Marc > Pau defensively. nick-named "The Spanish Tank"
If Pau was really that great, Spurfan would not have called him "gaSOFT".
I can find hundreds of threads with Spurfans calling him a pussy...just at this site alone
Defense wins championships.
Pau >>> Marc offensively..
Pau > Marc defensively..
Marc > Pau in toughness..
Despite Pau being soft, he's a very good defender..Marc Gasol definitely isn't better than Pau from a defensive standpoint, being bigger doesn't mean you're better defensively..all the numbers say Pau is significantly better defensively, and watching them brings the same results..Marc Gasol is a walking foul..
Where were all you Pau defenders hiding when everybody was calling him "gaSOFT" after the 2008 Finals?
Gasol might be the most underated defensive player in the league, with his height he changes a lot of shots inside, besides he's arguably the quickest bigman in the league and he's turning into a rebounding machine.
Pau: 11.2 rbds and 1.8 blks per game in 36.7 min.
Marc: 9.5 rbds and 1.6 blks per game in 35.5 min.
Last edited by DAF86; 02-11-2010 at 06:46 PM.
I have to go but as I said, where were all the Pau defenders when everybody was calling him gaSOFT after the 2008 Finals.
I don't remember any Spurfans defending the great Pau Gasol then.
I'll answer your responses later tonight.
You don't know . Fisher is JUST as selfish as Farmar is. Which is even worse because his old ass should know better by now.
LA wins 3 games with Kobe out and Gasol is the mvp. On a spurs board that hates Bryant like he raped their mothers. What a shock.
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