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    Jeff McDonald: George Karl on the Spurs' defense, from 30 minutes ago:

    "Defensively, they are not a dominant defensive team as they once were. They used to be incredible around the basket. You now can score around the basket on them more than ever before. But they’re still solid. They’re still sound, conceptually. (Pop) has tricks, he can mess with you. But they were so good for so many years. "

    "We chart our baskets within five feet of the basket every night. Halftime, I’d go in there against SA and we’d be 2 for 15. They just wouldn’t let you score around the basket. That’s different now."

    "They used to play two bigs. Now you can take Duncan away from the basket. You can take their bigs away and attack their smalls a little more. You take Duncan in the pick and roll, you’ve got Bonner, or McDyess or Blair covering the basket. That’s just not as good as it was when it was David Robinson, or Nesterovic or Mohammed or someone like that.

    So many of us have made this same observation time and time again..teams are getting Duncan out of the way and exploiting our other big, and more often than not, our other "big" is a SF..

    It's obvious to everybody that this is part of the major problem defensively, so why isn't it obvious to Pop?..

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    I just posted the same thing on the game thread...
    It's really aggravating...

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    I lol'd upon reading this in the Game Blog; hilarious.

    Apparently, only the players the Spurs are looking to acquire need to be MENSA worthy. . .

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    This is Pop's friend! Wow this team is a joke around the league right now.

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    So many of us have made this same observation time and time again..teams are getting Duncan out of the way and exploiting our other big, and more often than not, our other "big" is a SF..

    It's obvious to everybody that this is part of the major problem defensively, so why isn't it obvious to Pop?..
    he has his reasons for not being able to see


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    When George Karl, out of all coaches, figured you out, you're in deep .

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    Seriously though, this is just upsetting..

    What the is Pop doing?..It's at the point where I'm starting to think that he might be trying to lose for some reason..I don't actually believe it, but it might be the only logical explanation..

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    When George Karl, out of all coaches, figured you out, you're in deep .
    It's worse than just that, because we were all saying the same ..SpursTalk fans..as the Pop defenders like to remind us, he has 4 rings and we're just fans..

    I wrote this in the thread "how our defense fell apart" last week or 2 weeks ago..

    Opposing teams are often taking advantage of Duncan going to help on either the guy attacking the rim or helping up top on the pick and roll and screens..the other team will always roll to the basket and take advantage of Duncan helping against the first guy that takes the shot..
    It's annoying that we can all see this without the access to scouting and in-depth game video, but our HOF coach can't make an adjustment that everybody sees..

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    Can someone, anyone in the media please pester Popo about this?

    "Hey Pop, how come you don't play the big tall guys when the other team is scoring like it's a layup line?

    ing enablers - from the media down to the apologist fans. This is sickening.

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    I would pay to know what the assistant coaches are telling Pop these days...

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    This is Pop's friend! Wow this team is a joke around the league right now.
    ??? I've never heard of Karl and Pop being friends. AFAIK, Pop's buds are Don Nelson and Larry Brown. That's it.

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    ??? I've never heard of Karl and Pop being friends. AFAIK, Pop's buds are Don Nelson and Larry Brown. That's it.
    For what it's worth.

    Jeff McDonald: I would put Karl just below Larry Brown and Don Nelson on the ladder of coaches Pop likes

    Joe Alexander: Pop is tight with Larry Brown -- and Larry Brown and George Karl have ties going back to the ABA and college.

    Jeff McDonald: Although Larry and Don are sort of like mentors to Pop ... The relationship between Karl and Pop is more akin to giggly brothers in the backseat on a long car ride.

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    So many of us have made this same observation time and time again..teams are getting Duncan out of the way and exploiting our other big, and more often than not, our other "big" is a SF..

    It's obvious to everybody that this is part of the major problem defensively, so why isn't it obvious to Pop?..
    Ain't that the truth.

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    Good to see... It's frustrating enough to come online, vent, and know that nothing will ever come of a fan's complaint... But for one of Pop's peers to publicly express doubt in our small-ball influenced defense... it's about time.

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    so...what do you guys think- how many minutes ratliff and mahinmi get tonight?

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    so...what do you guys think- how many minutes ratliff and mahinmi get tonight?
    0 and 0, maybe a little TV time?

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    I asked this on an previous thread, but still wonder, has anyone with the press just come out and asked Pop why he doesn't play Ian and Theo?

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    Wow..

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    "Hey Pop, how come you don't play the big tall guys when the other team is scoring like it's a layup line?
    WOW! Who knew the answer was that simple all along! You should be a ing NBA coach!!!!!!!!!!

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    WOW! Who knew the answer was that simple all along! You should be a ing NBA coach!!!!!!!!!!
    Right, NBA coaches should be doing clever , like playing small ball. outta here dumbass.

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    Can someone, anyone in the media please pester Popo about this?

    "Hey Pop, how come you don't play the big tall guys when the other team is scoring like it's a layup line?

    ing enablers - from the media down to the apologist fans. This is sickening.
    One of the guys from 48MoH podcast said he asked Pop why they play small ball all the time. He essentially said it's so they can generate more offense and Timmy basically said the same thing when he was asked about it.

    Not exactly a startling revelation but it's weird that Pop would be so scarred from the '08 WCF (maybe the '06 WCSF too?) that he'd sell his soul to put more points on the board.

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    Can someone, anyone in the media please pester Popo about this?

    "Hey Pop, how come you don't play the big tall guys when the other team is scoring like it's a layup line?

    ing enablers - from the media down to the apologist fans. This is sickening.

    I hate our media they are so lame when it comes to asking Pop the hard questions, are they afraid to hurt his feelings?

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    This is Pop's friend! Wow this team is a joke around the league right now.
    hmmm....but the Spurs are winning....in Denver.

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    One of the guys from 48MoH podcast said he asked Pop why they play small ball all the time. He essentially said it's so they can generate more offense and Timmy basically said the same thing when he was asked about it.

    Not exactly a startling revelation but it's weird that Pop would be so scarred from the '08 WCF (maybe the '06 WCSF too?) that he'd sell his soul to put more points on the board.
    I'm not buying it because pop often goes to small ball after the spurs have the lead. i could understand it if they're struggling to score, but popovich doesn't use it like that.

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    ??? I've never heard of Karl and Pop being friends. AFAIK, Pop's buds are Don Nelson and Larry Brown. That's it.
    Don't forget they coached together with the 2002 Team USA in the FIBA World Championships. Pop was one of Karl's assistant coaches.

    The Spurs have had obvious deficiencies in the middle for 3 years. They worked around them in 2007 but lately, especially against tall teams, physical teams, and long teams, they struggle.
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