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    I'd like to think a trade will help this team this season. Not gonna happen.

    Depends on the trade, getting a guy like Thomas would help the defense around the pain. Thomas has a lot of potential

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    Doing this trade does not amount to taking a risk. Do you honestly believe that Salmons and Ty Thomas are the missing pieces to vault the Spurs into championship contention? I think that sentiment is just foolhardy. Why add more money on the books (salmons) past this season for something that will net you less then a championship. Its not that this trade wouldn't make us any better, it would, it just won't make us good enough to realistically compete for a ship'.

    Id much rather keep our draft picks (including Splitter) to help rebuild the team in the future. The only trades I would be willing to make is one that would truly and instantly put us in a position to win the championship or one that brings us a great young talent (not TT; I simply don't think he will ever reach his supposed potential) for the future. Such a trade is not available at this time.
    Like I said, I don't even see it as a risk. I never called them the missing pieces, but they upgrade the talent, athleticism, defense and offer more clarify as far as the rotation/role definition, so I think they'd improve this teams chances. This team looks so far from being a contender that probably no realistic trade they can do would make them a contender again, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't keep trying. They have some flexibility now and they need to utilize it. The primary goal (within' reason) is to win Duncan one for the thumb and to, in the process, not sacrifice the future. This trade improves the chances of the former and improves the potential of the latter.

    Salmons' salary for next season is Mason's/Finley's combined. The Spurs will have to replace them both anyway, as I suspect Finley will retire and Mason will be tough to re-sign because he, like Splitter, has to be paid using the MLE. Even with salaries shrinking, I doubt the Spurs could squeeze those two into the MLE and they're not picking Mason over Splitter, for obvious reasons.

    Don't you get it? Thomas basically is a draft pick and on top of that, he's almost certainly better than what the Spurs could get picking in the range they'll likely pick in. People stereotype players like Thomas and get caught up in their potential, but no one ever talks about the players they are. Thomas, while he's mistake prone, immature and a malcontent, is already a solid, productive player.

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    Salmons' salary for next season is Mason's/Finley's combined. The Spurs will have to replace them both anyway, as I suspect Finley will retire and Mason will be tough to re-sign because he, like Splitter, has to be paid using the MLE. Even with salaries shrinking, I doubt the Spurs could squeeze those two into the MLE and they're not picking Mason over Splitter, for obvious reasons.
    i agree with your stance totally, just thought i should clarify this a bit. we dont have to spend our MLE on mason. being a early bird free agent this summer, we can offer him up to the full value of the MLE (or 175% of his previous salary) without actually using our MLE.

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    The report saying that Bobcats have offered their 2010 first round pick can't be taken seriously. They have still traded it and the soonest first round pick they can trade is their 2012 ones.

    So far, it looks like the best offer is from Portland with expirings and a couple of second round picks. These second round picks aren't even early ones.

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    Certainly the Spurs can "sweeten" their offer to Chicago with, perhaps, a first-rounder in 2012, or the rights to Spiltter. I also want to see the Spurs stick it to Portland for them stealing Batum from under their noses in the 2008 draft.

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    i agree with your stance totally, just thought i should clarify this a bit. we dont have to spend our MLE on mason. being a early bird free agent this summer, we can offer him up to the full value of the MLE (or 175% of his previous salary) without actually using our MLE.
    Good work. That changes what I had previously thought would be the potential '10-11 roster. Don't get me wrong, I like Mason, but I wouldn't let him be a deal breaker in this trade, however, if the Spurs don't make this, or any trade, this means there's a good chance that they can re-sign him and sign Splitter.

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    I just thought about this. Wouldn't it be cool if the Spurs did the trade (Bonner, Finley, Mason - Thomas & Salmons) now, then shipped RJ out this summer and resigned Mason again? With Manu expected to leave, it would be good to have a proven, veteran shooter, like Mason, back in the fold.

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    The report saying that Bobcats have offered their 2010 first round pick can't be taken seriously. They have still traded it and the soonest first round pick they can trade is their 2012 ones.

    So far, it looks like the best offer is from Portland with expirings and a couple of second round picks. These second round picks aren't even early ones.
    Perhaps Portland isn't as committed toward making such a trade, as they're letting on.

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...to_make_trade/

    That piss-ant GM, ard, is approached all the time to part with specific pieces of his team. I know that Coach McMillian absolutely loves Blake. We'll see if they truly are willing to part with both Blake and Outlaw.

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    Did someone post this article already?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns


    After the Chicago Bulls suspended forward Tyrus Thomas for losing his temper with coach Vinny Del Negro, an interesting thing happened: More teams started calling the franchise’s front office wanting to talk about a trade.

    Everyone understood Chicago executives are now determined to move Thomas, and a clear price has been established for suitors: Expiring contracts and a future first-round draft pick, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. The Bulls are also exploring ways to package Thomas with guard Kirk Hinrich to free themselves of his contract.

    The Charlotte Bobcats bid Acie Law, and Flip Murray, a league executive said. The Bobcats have been searching for a long, athletic forward like Thomas, the fourth pick in the 2007 draft, and are expected to be aggressive pursuers. Portland Trail Blazers general manager Kevin Pritchard made an offer they’ll have to improve upon to be taken seriously – one of his expiring contracts (Steve Blake or Travis Outlaw) and two future second-round draft picks.

    The New York Knicks, Sacramento Kings, San Antonio Spurs, Denver Nuggets and New Orleans Hornets are among the multiple teams who’ve spoken to Chicago about Thomas. The Bulls are telling people that they have several teams willing to offer first-round picks – in 2010 or beyond.

    Bulls management is telling teams they expect to take the bidding right to the Feb. 18 deadline. The Bulls want to avoid the possibility of Thomas accepting a $6.2 million qualifying offer on the eve of this summer’s free agency, which would deliver a major dent to their salary-cap space. Thomas, 23, will be a restricted free agent this summer.

    The Bulls are desperate to recruit Miami’s Dwyane Wade(notes) back to his hometown, but one source familiar with Wade’s thinking says he’s ”far less” inclined to bolt Miami unless Chicago has the ability to sign a ”significant” free agent to join him.

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    ^ yes but not sure if was in this thread.

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    Hmm...I wonder if the Spurs are one of the teams willing to offer a pick.

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    Latest word on the Thomas trade from Hoopshype, courtesy of CBSSportline:

    http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

    Portland has joined San Antonio, Denver, Charlotte, and Sacramento in the pursuit of Tyrus Thomas, with one person familiar with the situation characterizing the Blazers as “close” to finding a workable scenario. Rival execs have contradicted that account, saying the Bulls are telling them they need to sweeten their offers. Chicago is seeking a quality draft pick in addition to cap relief. Denver and Charlotte have conditional 2010 second-round picks from previous trades, and Denver also could offer a second-round pick that can be swapped with the Clippers.

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    Hmm...I wonder if the Spurs are one of the teams willing to offer a pick.
    I think Bulls are bluffing.

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    With regards to expiring contracts, Mason fits what the Bulls need this year; outside shooting.

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    With regards to expiring contracts, Mason fits what the Bulls need this year; outside shooting.
    ...in sort of a poor man's Ben Gordon kind of way.

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    I guess Bulls will be more interested in Bonner. Without Thomas, they are very at the PF spot. Bonner also bring the outside shooting they need.

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    With regards to expiring contracts, Mason fits what the Bulls need this year; outside shooting.

    Mason & Ian is all the Spurs should offer for TT. Throw in the Rights to Splitter, a draft pick & Bonner for Kirk. Otha than that we would be ing ourselves! IMO

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    I think Bulls are bluffing.
    You're probably right. Oh, and rofl at the Bulls thinking they can get anyone to take Hinrich's contract. They are much better off trying to move Salmons with Thomas if they are looking for cap relief.

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    I would most definitely be looking to move Bonner over Mason, but the Bulls seem to want guards that can shoot the 3 (trading for Brown, CHA offering Flip Murrary, POR offering Blake...). It just seems they are more interested in guards.

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    You're probably right. Oh, and rofl at the Bulls thinking they can get anyone to take Hinrich's contract. They are much better off trying to move Salmons with Thomas if they are looking for cap relief.
    I think Hinrich is better for your team in the long run!

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    The Bulls are sorely deficient in perimeter scoring, ever since that stupidly allowed Gordoon to walk in free agency this past summer. Bonner and Mason would provide some measure of outside shooting for them. Assuming, of course, they're really serious about this scenario.

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    If the spurs started recruiting from Mensa would that be better?

    Actually.. I think your onto something here.

    I could defenitely see this starting a trend among the nba and pretty soon we'd be watching former math wizzes turned nba basketball players calculating passing angles and banking shots from 30+ feet with 100% accuracy.

    Instead of judging athletic prowess at the combine they would instead run IQ tests instead and teams would invite athletes to take part in Jeapordy trials.

    Ok maybe I'm exaggerating here.. but the point is valid.
    In terms of IQ, you are the Tyrus Thomas of this board.

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    You have reading comprehension problems huh? I repeat for the reading impaired: The reason Thomas is not starting is not because he's stupid its because the bulls lucked into finding a guy who's cheaper and almost as good and want to move him to free up salary for a shot at Lebron/Wade/Bosh this summer. Get it yet?

    And comparing a Euro without even any post game to one of the most skilled big men in the NBA is funny.
    Hot air.
    Thomas lost his starting job to a rookie.
    Period.
    I actually watched a few Bulls game and Thomas is quite dumb. Maybe, just maybe, his coach thinks the same.

    And yes, Gasol was a "Euro " a-la-Splitter, before he went to Memphis.

    I suspect that you know less of the NBA than you do of Euroleague basketball.

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    a guy on the Bulls board on realgm opend a thread with a Twitter quote:

    So much Tyrus talk here at All-Star weekend that you gotta believe he'll get dealt. Bulls have revived old talks with Knicks for Harrington
    link doesn't work, so I don't know where the info came from.
    (deal would likely be TT+Jerome James for Harrington)

    NY can't offer a 1st round pick, but of course, if the Bulls still want help and talent for this season, Harrington offers more than Mason+Bonner+Fin.

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    ^ The info come form Bulls' beat writer:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,5596071.story


    Rumor mill: League sources said the Bulls and Knicks have renewed talks that stalled in early December on a Tyrus Thomas for Al Harrington swap. Other Bulls' salaries would need to be included to make the trade work.

    The Bulls continue to shop Thomas aggressively, including as part of larger deals involving John Salmons or Kirk Hinrich. The Bulls have told teams they are seeking expiring contracts and draft picks.

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